Irish people are the worst at making a deal ever

zeds alive

They just won't budge on price , they want to make back exactly what they paid for it , or what they heard the next man got.

Can't haggle with them....

Examples

Went on done deal to buy a new mixing desk , found one , the seller wanted €1000 , offered him €900 , said no , offered €950 , he said no. Bought the same desk on Ebay delivered for €850. Same desk is still on done deal and was relisted yesterday for €900.

Wife wanted tailors dummy , found one in Dublin €75 offered the guy €65 said no , wouldn't budge on price , found identical dummy in poland delivered €65 , Dublin tailors dummy is still for sale @ €75.

Buying a car , found one on Done Deal , offered €200 below asking price(which was unrealistic) seller wouldn't budge , went and bought similar car for what I was offering original seller , car was relisted last week at price I originally offered.

Legs.Eleven

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n3LL338aGA

dearg lady

This drives me mad! People not even coming back with a counter offer, just saying no, I couldn't let it go for that. Expecting me to keep upping my offer. If they won't engage I won't waste my time

Legs.Eleven

I used to work in Eason and someone tried to haggle down the price of a book. :-/

mixery

Emm, I was on the seller side the other day, and I acted exactly like to "c u next tuesday" you're talking about. It's the guys fault. I lowered my price by a tenner, and the raytard just kept pushing it. I would let it go for what he was offering, but he acted like such bellend, I mean he was so desperate at the end he wanted to split a fiver. Of course after I just told him to piss off, 3 minutes later he found a way better deal for a lower price. Also he kept texting not calling, and using that stupid "txt speak". What did he expect?

howamidifferent

mixery wrote: »

Emm, I was on the seller side the other day, and I acted exactly like to "c u next tuesday" you're talking about. It's the guys fault. I lowered my price by a tenner, and the raytard just kept pushing it. I would let it go for what he was offering, but he acted like such bellend, I mean he was so desperate at the end he wanted to split a fiver. Of course after I just told him to piss off, 3 minutes later he found a way better deal for a lower price. Also he kept texting not calling, and using that stupid "txt speak". What did he expect?

What?

mixery

What exactly didn't you undestand, I'll clarify it for you.

Lollipops23

I understand it must be frustrating when you're buying a car/something off a seller online, but spare a thought for everyone in retail who deals with muppets attempting to haggle on a daily basis.

Eddie fúcking Hobbes has a lot to answer for.

who_me

What's the problem? The seller wants a certain price, and they've advertised the price they want honestly. Why are you complaining? Surely that saves a lot of time, instead of having to contact lots of people and see how much each is willing to haggle?

When I sell my iPhone, I'll advertise it for 1 million euros, and leave the buyer haggle me down to the real price and he'll feel great about himself..

plasteritup

mixery wrote: »

Emm, I was on the seller side the other day, and I acted exactly like to "c u next tuesday" you're talking about. It's the guys fault. I lowered my price by a tenner, and the raytard just kept pushing it. I would let it go for what he was offering, but he acted like such bellend, I mean he was so desperate at the end he wanted to split a fiver. Of course after I just told him to piss off, 3 minutes later he found a way better deal for a lower price. Also he kept texting not calling, and using that stupid "txt speak". What did he expect?[/QUOTE

thanks for that,made my day there raytard,bellend,3 minutes later,better deal for a lower price. HA HA HA.:D

Hardonraging

All you have to do is take a look at adverts.ie to get an idea of the farce that we as a nation are when it comes to buying and selling .. Item for sale .. 100 euro ... Offer you 30 .. sure ...

Cee-Jay-Cee

I find it so fricken annoying when selling stuff on DD and I clearly state that the price is firm and the lowest I am willing to take so no offers and I still get retards asking 'what's your best price?' Or 'will you take xxx?' Fuc ktards.

castletownman

Tell it to Germany!

plasteritup

Hardonraging wrote: »

All you have to do is take a look at adverts.ie to get an idea of the farce that we as a nation are when it comes to buying and selling .. Item for sale .. 100 euro ... Offer you 30 .. sure ...

that's an insulting offer fair enough,but whenever I have sold anything or bought online or whatever,a bit of haggling is the norm to be fair,and in general about 10 percent off is about the way it works out,unless what im buying is in bad shape or needs work.ie a car

humbert

So basically your complaint is that people put up an advertised price and wont accept less than the advertised price?

Hate people that have to haggle over every fucking little thing.

The Backwards Man

I love haggling. It always amazes me when I'm selling something that people pay the asking price no question when I'm fully prepared to come down 20 or 30 percent. More fool them.:pac:

Professor Xavier

I went to see a landlord about renting a room. The room was way over priced and I offered him a lower price. I expected him to come back with a counter offer, as you do when you don't agree but his response was to fart right in front of me and walk off. He wouldn't even negotiate when I was willing to raise the price. A lot of people in this country seem to get offended if you try and haggle with them. I think the Catholic Church outlawed at one stage.

Professor Xavier

Professor Xavier wrote: »

I went to see a landlord about renting a room. The room was way over priced and I offered him a lower price. I expected him to come back with a counter offer, as you do when you don't agree but his response was to fart right in front of me and walk off. He wouldn't even negotiate when I was willing to raise the price. A lot of people in this country seem to get offended if you try and haggle with them. I think the Catholic Church outlawed at one stage.

What was he asking and what was your offer?

sfwcork

Professor Xavier wrote: »

I went to see a landlord about renting a room. The room was way over priced and I offered him a lower price. I expected him to come back with a counter offer, as you do when you don't agree but his response was to fart right in front of me and walk off. He wouldn't even negotiate when I was willing to raise the price. A lot of people in this country seem to get offended if you try and haggle with them. I think the Catholic Church outlawed at one stage.

Well maybe he thought once he included the fart it was worth the price!

Voodoomelon

I own a retail store and had a customer drive from Dublin in a panic on Christmas Eve to buy some items. We closed at 2pm I think and made that clear on the phone, they said they'd be there on the dot. Didn't show up until 2.35, being Christmas Eve I had plenty to do myself.

I'd kept the shop open just for him, your man then puts the stuff up on the counter and then starts asking what my best price was. Couldn't believe it.

books4sale

As a seller, best to have the initial price raised and let the buyer haggle down to the price you would have taken in the first place.

Buyers always want to feel they have won the battle, personally I couldn't care less (give or take a few euros) so long as I end up with the profit.

B.A._Baracus

Most things are negotiable.
You cant barter down your shopping bill in Lidl But if you are buying anything significant, like a few hundred euro on a tv for example, you damn well should haggle.

But it has to be said that buyers are tight pricks too. I like to browse around on adverts.ie alot and you see jerks low-balling the crap out of people. Something is going for 60 - "i'll offer you a tenner" :rolleyes:

jimmy180sx

I work in a small country car garage and we have this ould lad who comes in the whole time haggling the final price on work all the time.

So i started adding an extra €20 on the bill an he would come in a haggle away down to my 'original' intended invoice..he was happy because he got 20 quid of the final bill and i get paid what im entitled too.

gobnaitolunacy

A lot of people here would be p*ssed off to high heaven visiting an Arabic country or SE Asia.

Ruu

We used to go to the markets up the north, my Dad was a great auld hand at the haggling. He would have them eating out of his hand and following us around the place and then, nah changed me mind!

folan

gobnaitolunacy wrote: »

A lot of people here would be p*ssed off to high heaven visiting an Arabic country or SE Asia.

actually sounds lovely to me.

I was selling a motorbike a few weeks ago.
asked 3600.it was 07
A bellend ring me up offers 2600,I said 3400 is bottom dollar.
he ring me back says he found a 08 same model for 2800.
If I'd take 2800 he'd take mine.
I said enjoy your 08 suzuki ya prick.

got 3400 for it the next day

Low baller's drive me mad

humbert

Ruubot2 wrote: »

We used to go to the markets up the north, my Dad was a great auld hand at the haggling. He would have them eating out of his hand and following us around the place and then, nah changed me mind!

With all due respect, I think your dad might have crossed that fine line between haggling and being a complete asshole.

Itsdacraic

zeds alive wrote: »

They just won't budge on price , they want to make back exactly what they paid for it , or what they heard the next man got.

Can't haggle with them....

Examples

Went on done deal to buy a new mixing desk , found one , the seller wanted €1000 , offered him €900 , said no , offered €950 , he said no. Bought the same desk on Ebay delivered for €850. Same desk is still on done deal and was relisted yesterday for €900.

Wife wanted tailors dummy , found one in Dublin €75 offered the guy €65 said no , wouldn't budge on price , found identical dummy in poland delivered €65 , Dublin tailors dummy is still for sale @ €75.

Buying a car , found one on Done Deal , offered €200 below asking price(which was unrealistic) seller wouldn't budge , went and bought similar car for what I was offering original seller , car was relisted last week at price I originally offered.

Tight arse

starlings

gobnaitolunacy wrote: »

A lot of people here would be p*ssed off to high heaven visiting an Arabic country or SE Asia.

yup :pac:

I'd avoid markets there tbh, as it wrecks my head that the seller won't set the actual price they want and stick to it. However, it's their tradition so I wouldn't get into it. We seem to have both traditions here and get ourselves in knots because it comes across as the height of rudeness when

1. A haggler meets a fixed-price seller and tries to knock off a few bob, or
2. A fixed-price buyer meets a selling haggler and turns them down and walks off to buy elsewhere.

dybbuk

jimmy180sx wrote: »

so i started adding an extra €20 on the bill

This nicely illustrates how uncooperative behavior impedes the entire economy.
Imagine you succeed in making "this ould lad" happy and he brings his buddy and "this ould lad"Nr2 will obviously want to get a better discount than his Nr1 friend.
Soon you'll be issuing overpriced invoices and damage the reputation of the business.

On the scale of advert.ie it might be just a bit of a waste of time. But the same is happening in the entire residential property market and in the rental market people (AFAIK at least many landlords) are absolutely antisocial.

Here is a link to an interesting presentation on this subject.
I wonder how different the results of this research would be if one was to recruit the folks from adverts.ie for this study.

Ruu

humbert wrote: »

With all due respect, I think your dad might have crossed that fine line between haggling and being a complete asshole.

I would fully agree, he knew it too!

gobnaitolunacy

folan wrote: »

actually sounds lovely to me.

'Herro. You buy? Special price for you my friend.'

Prodigious

I was selling a Samsung Galaxy S3 on Done Deal. Buyer agrees price on phone, then shows up at the meeting place. Two indian lads in a black mercedes. They spend about a year inspecting it, then offer 50 less than agreed. I said "Right, give me the phone back so, and I'll head", and he pleaded to stay. He then went up to a tenner less than agreed, which would have been grand if he hadn't been a knob. So on principle I wouldn't let him off the tenner. He spent literally 15 minutes arguing for the tenner, then resigned and pulls out the right money, leaving a heap of 50s still in the wallet.

Cienciano

Israelis are the worst. Saw 2 Israeli tourists trying to haggle down the price of a big mac meal in Bangkok once.
Another Israeli guy, about 6 foot 5 and built like a brick shít house screaming at a thai girl who's about 7 years old over about 20 cent for a bag of washing.

rubadub

zeds alive wrote: »

They just won't budge on price..
Can't haggle with them....

I view this as a good thing. Your title should be "Irish people do not like haggling".

I wish there was no such thing as haggling here, then I would be saying we "are the best at making/doing deals" no pissing about.

gobnaitolunacy wrote: »

A lot of people here would be p*ssed off to high heaven visiting an Arabic country or SE Asia.

Yep, really pissed me off, made shopping around a nightmare as you had to spend ages going through each item, trying to remember them all and going back again.

Its a needless fucking rigmarole. There must be something to do as payback.

I also hated being in the US and dealing with both tipping culture (esp. jobs with people purposely being paid below min wage) and I was also annoyed with the sales tax -just tell me the fucking amount of money I have to give you, I am good at maths but don't want to do it in my free time.

Hardonraging wrote: »

All you have to do is take a look at adverts.ie to get an idea of the farce that we as a nation are when it comes to buying and selling .. Item for sale .. 100 euro ... Offer you 30 .. sure ...

Adverts is like a auction in reverse, you come on and quote high, just in case some eejit might pay it, some people do not know where you can get items at a good price. Then people get a foot in with a lowball incase you are really stuck to offload it and nobody else comes along, I would have no issue with somebody quoting a really low one on adverts. So you can basically ignore the asking price, and ignore the first price offered and see the 3rd or 4th offer to see what is really the going rate. I think it works quite well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNQRqAoT-2c

dybbuk

Der Führer never haggled and was appreciated by his entourage.

Prodigious

The worst on adverts is when someone is selling a jumper for like €5 and someone offers €3

humbert

Cienciano wrote: »

Israelis are the worst. Saw 2 Israeli tourists trying to haggle down the price of a big mac meal in Bangkok once.
Another Israeli guy, about 6 foot 5 and built like a brick shít house screaming at a thai girl who's about 7 years old over about 20 cent for a bag of washing.

You mean Jews? :pac:

Cienciano

humbert wrote: »

You mean Jews? :pac:

No, Israeli

books4sale

jimmy180sx wrote: »

I work in a small country car garage and we have this ould lad who comes in the whole time haggling the final price on work all the time.

So i started adding an extra €20 on the bill an he would come in a haggle away down to my 'original' intended invoice..he was happy because he got 20 quid of the final bill and i get paid what im entitled too.

Yep, this is what i'm talking about right here. Nice work & everyone's happy.

Problem123456

Cienciano wrote: »

No, Israeli

Yeah jews

Kinski

rubadub wrote: »

I also hated being in the US and dealing with both tipping culture (esp. jobs with people purposely being paid below min wage) and I was also annoyed with the sales tax -just tell me the fucking amount of money I have to give you, I am good at maths but don't want to do it in my free time.

I don't get the US tipping culture at all. There's an article here by a former bartender from New York; I really sympathise with her* having to put up with a lot of the crap she describes for so little pay, but "Anything less than 20 percent is blasphemy"?

I don't want to have to think about tips this way, a tip is roughly 10% to me. And buybacks? Wtf? How about the bar pays their staff a living wage, and I tip if I feel like it (and I guarantee I'll never be asking a member of staff to "buy me a round.")

*Though she does lose some points for thinking Bud Light is a credible lager of choice...

rubadub

Kinski wrote: »

I really sympathise with her* having to put up with a lot of the crap she describes for so little pay, but "Anything less than 20 percent is blasphemy"?

But she doesn't say what she takes home. If she is regularly getting 20% it could be a fortune. I remember guys in college going to work in bars in the US just for 2 days around paddys day, the tips were paying for the flights, getting paid like brain surgeons!

Most service industry workers make about $2.13 an hour, far below minimum wage. My livelihood is my tip.

She seems ignorant about the min wage, it seems since 2009 it is guaranteed.

The Fair Labor Standards Act requires a minimum wage of $2.13 for tipped workers with the expectation that wages plus tips total $7.25 per hour. The employer must pay the difference if total income does not add up to $7.25 per hour

My livelihood is my tip. And I know without a doubt, I never give service that is worth less than 20 percent.

What the fuck does she do to deserve $20 to open a $100 bottle of wine (I can imagine the answers to that by the way)

Cienciano

Problem123456 wrote: »

Yeah jews

Make whatever antisemitic assumptions you want, but don't apply them to my story. The guys were Israeli, no idea what religion they were. Met plenty of american jews away, never seen them behave like that either.

Janey_Mac

starlings wrote: »

1. A haggler meets a fixed-price seller and tries to knock off a few bob, or
2. A fixed-price buyer meets a selling haggler and turns them down and walks off to buy elsewhere.

I think this happened me at a shoe-repair place the other week. I had never got any of my shoes repaired before, so when he told me how much it'd cost to get a new zip on my boots and have them re-soled, I just nodded. I then got really confused by how he acted.

"That adds up to be quite expensive!" he said.

"Cheaper than a new pair of boots," I said with a shrug.

"But still, that is quite a bit of money."

"Yeah, but I want to get the boots fixed so I'll pay it." etc etc.

After a couple of rounds of him telling me it's expensive and me telling him I'll pay, he knocks €20 off the price he gave me initially for no discernable reason.

I was dead confused after until it dawned on me that he thought I should be haggling. It was a bit Life of Brian really.

If he wants his customers to haggle he should put up a sign or something. I'd have haggled if I'd known I was meant to!

jimmy180sx

Janey_Mac wrote: »

I think this happened me at a shoe-repair place the other week. I had never got any of my shoes repaired before, so when he told me how much it'd cost to get a new zip on my boots and have them re-soled, I just nodded. I then got really confused by how he acted.

"That adds up to be quite expensive!" he said.

"Cheaper than a new pair of boots," I said with a shrug.

"But still, that is quite a bit of money."

"Yeah, but I want to get the boots fixed so I'll pay it." etc etc.

After a couple of rounds of him telling me it's expensive and me telling him I'll pay, he knocks €20 off the price he gave me initially for no discernable reason.

I was dead confused after until it dawned on me that he thought I should be haggling. It was a bit Life of Brian really.

If he wants his customers to haggle he should put up a sign or something. I'd have haggled if I'd known I was meant to!

Im also a cobbler on every other day

YFlyer

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

I used to work in Eason and someone tried to haggle down the price of a book. :-/

Surely he could have read the whole book over time there.

madalig12

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

I used to work in Eason and someone tried to haggle down the price of a book. :-/

Yes, that's allowed by law, sticker prices are a guide, if you want to haggle you can. It can get emabarrasing of course and the shopkeeper doesn't have to budge.

srfc d16

madalig12 wrote: »

Yes, that's allowed by law, sticker prices are a guide, if you want to haggle you can. It can get emabarrasing of course and the shopkeeper doesn't have to budge.

Why wouldn't it be?
I don't really like haggling myself but i wouldn't argue that it should be illegal.

zeds alive

humbert wrote: »

So basically your complaint is that people put up an advertised price and wont accept less than the advertised price?
.

No , my complaint is that I offered a fair price every time , they could have sold it there and then , they refused to budge , lost a sale and ended up trying to sell the stuff at the original price I offered at a later date.
I wouldn't offer someone €10 for something worth €100 , but I would offer them €90.