The seven social classes

token101

According to a new study, the UK now has seven social classes:

Elite - the most privileged group in the UK, distinct from the other six classes through its wealth.

Established Middle Class- Members of this class have high levels of all three capitals although not as high as the Elite. They are a gregarious and culturally engaged class.

Technical middle class - a small, distinctive new class group which is prosperous but scores low for social and cultural capital.

New affluent workers - a young class group which is socially and culturally active, with middling levels of economic capital

Traditional working class - scores low on all forms of capital, but is not completely deprived. Its members have reasonably high house values, explained by this group having the oldest average age at 66

Emergent service workers - a new, young, urban group which is relatively poor but has high social and cultural capital

Precariat, or precarious proletariat - the poorest, most deprived class, scoring low for social and cultural capital

I'd guess it could most likely be applied to Ireland too, so I'd be an emergent service worker according to the answers I gave. Survey's here

VinLieger

Thats only 6

edit: and you saw your mistake and edited in the second middle class, before the edit appeared nicely done

Dravokivich

VinLieger wrote: »

Thats only 6

Eh, there's 7.

jjdub1

You missed 'Established Middle Class' ... BS survey, according to it I am Elite !!!

Apparently not that elite as I can't read properly .. Established Middle Class .. which is still BS

ssaye

Dravokivich wrote: »

Eh, there's 7.

Boom

Elite class




:pac:

lkionm

Elite for me, plebs.

Sofiztikated

I too watched the BBC breakfast show.

Apparently dentists are Elite.

Richard Hillman

Established middle class innit :cool:

Zulu

Established Middle Class

EMC

rubadub

Class has traditionally been defined by occupation, wealth and education. But this research argues that this is too simplistic, suggesting that class has three dimensions - economic, social and cultural.

7 is still way too simple for my liking, it will never work, need at least 15, only then can it work.

the groutch

you forgot the "living in the past" class.

kneemos

Special needs class.

fishy fishy

you forgot two more

The Jones's

and those who want to keep up with them. :rolleyes:

SEPT 23 1989

Class A's all day long

biko

So does this un-sourced study conclude these 7 classes exist in Ireland too?
Or only in Dublin?

kneemos

The GAA class are in a league of their own .

BillyMitchel

My daddy's joint partner of KFC what does that make me?

Duck Soup

biko wrote: »

So does this un-sourced study conclude these 7 classes exist in Ireland too?
Or only in Dublin?

Only in Dublin.

Outside Dublin it breaks down into:

1. Farmer.

2. Not a farmer.

summerskin

BillyMitchel wrote: »

My daddy's joint partner of KFC what does that make me?

one piece of chicken short of a snackbox

Reamer Fanny

fishy fishy wrote: »

you forgot two more

The Jones's

and those who want to keep up with them. :rolleyes:

Comedy gold

Precariat according to that.

They seem to put great store on owning a home.

Maybe I should get out more.

lkionm

BillyMitchel wrote: »

My daddy's joint partner of KFC what does that make me?

finger licking wealthy

hooradiation

biko wrote: »

So does this un-sourced study conclude these 7 classes exist in Ireland too?

It's not a study - last year the BBC did a massive survey of people in the UK this just lets you know where you lie in the spectrum of results from that survey.

Reading, it's a thing.
You should do it more often.

Duck Soup

Duck Soup wrote: »

Only in Dublin.

Outside Dublin it breaks down into:

1. Farmer.

2. Not a farmer.

Well, in Dublin it pretty much breaks down to -

1. Scumbag.

2. Not a scumbag.

davet82

Deleted User wrote: »

2. Not a scumbag.

the technical term is 'dutch gold class'

fishy fishy

ever hear the saying "divide and conquer"

there is no such thing as Class -there is only levels of greed. but lets put the "class" labels on, so the greedier can get richer.

pickarooney

Emergent service worker. I think I was almost sunk by my listening to rap.

biko

token101 wrote: »

According to a new study, the UK now has seven social classes

hooradiation wrote: »

It's not a study - last year the BBC did a massive survey of people in the UK this just lets you know where you lie in the spectrum of results from that survey.
Reading, it's a thing.
You should do it more often.

My apologies, I interpreted the word study in the OP as study, silly me.

Still no sources I see so here it is
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/389002/Elite-or-Precariat-Britain-now-has-seven-social-classes-so-which-do-you-fit-into
BRITISH people now fit into seven social classes, a new study has revealed, with the traditional model of upper, middle, and working classes now being deemed "too simplistic."

token101

hooradiation wrote: »

It's not a study - last year the BBC did a massive survey of people in the UK this just lets you know where you lie in the spectrum of results from that survey.

Reading, it's a thing.
You should do it more often.

biko wrote: »

My apologies, I interpreted the word study in the OP as study, silly me.

Still no sources I see so here it is
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/389002/Elite-or-Precariat-Britain-now-has-seven-social-classes-so-which-do-you-fit-into
BRITISH people now fit into seven social classes, a new study has revealed, with the traditional model of upper, middle, and working classes now being deemed "too simplistic."

Jesus, it was a survey. But I'd imagine they at least had a glance at, or maybe even studied, the results.

humbert

It seems that if you're technical you can't be established middle class.

conorhal

BillyMitchel wrote: »

My daddy's joint partner of KFC what does that make me?

No class at all......

conorhal

fishy fishy wrote: »

ever hear the saying "divide and conquer"

there is no such thing as Class -there is only levels of greed. but lets put the "class" labels on, so the greedier can get richer.

I'm guessing that post makes you... Emergent service workers - a new, young, urban group which is relatively poor but has high social and cultural capital


And stop posting to Boards 'from your iPhone' and get me my bloody latte already, your 2.1 in Sociology is the reason you work in Starbucks in the first place!

Larbre34

I'd go along with there being 6 of those classes in Ireland, and not just Dublin either.

The reason there are not 7 is we don't have an 'Elite'. You hear the term bandied about to describe anyone who is out to 'screw the common man, deprive the PAYE worker', however when you talk about politicians or bankers or developers or professionals like consultants or barristers, in reality they are at best members of an established middle class.

In the UK, or at least in London, the Elite are properly that. Long standing aristocratic families with massive land holdings, offshore arab royalty, oil and commodities billionaires, mega-industrialists and oligarchs. Hugely and independently cash and asset rich.

In Ireland, even the wealth of the most noted entrepreneurs and developers was all notional - figures on a balance sheet, the bank owned it, now we own it as the house of cards came tumbling down. There are perhaps 4 or 5 people or families on this island that could produce at will the kind of liquidity of the London Elite, and thats not a class, its a statisical margin of error!

Aren't you glad we live in such an equal society!!

jonnyfingers

According to the survey I'm in the Elite class. I can tell you now that I'm don't consider myself in the elite class so I don't have too much faith in the survey. Way too much weighting on salary and the profession of the friends you keep.

Ray Palmer

Larbre34 wrote: »

I'd go along with there being 6 of those classes in Ireland, and not just Dublin either.

The reason there are not 7 is we don't have an 'Elite'. You hear the term bandied about to describe anyone who is out to 'screw the common man, deprive the PAYE worker', however when you talk about politicians or bankers or developers or professionals like consultants or barristers, in reality they are at best members of an established middle class.

In the UK, or at least in London, the Elite are properly that. Long standing aristocratic families with massive land holdings, offshore arab royalty, oil and commodities billionaires, mega-industrialists and oligarchs. Hugely and independently cash and asset rich.

In Ireland, even the wealth of the most noted entrepreneurs and developers was all notional - figures on a balance sheet, the bank owned it, now we own it as the house of cards came tumbling down. There are perhaps 4 or 5 people or families on this island that could produce at will the kind of liquidity of the London Elite, and thats not a class, its a statisical margin of error!

Aren't you glad we live in such an equal society!!

We have an elite class. There are many families with a long history of wealth combined with education and social standing. 3rd and fourth generation barristers exist along with politicians. It isn't a massive crowd but it is there.

From looking around you can see Ireland is relatively flat when it comes to class. Most people can move up or down from where they started. In my class from school there are criminals, politicians, bank mangers, junkies, laborers etc... Not everything is closed off but for some groups things are much more difficult to move up but then again it is also hard to fall out of the group they grew in due to family money.

I know a couple who were going out for years as teenagers. He went on to be a bank manager in a nice area and she went on to be a single mother living in Ballymun. They were pretty much from the same back ground. You can argue if one is more successful than the other if you like but they are pretty much at the end of the extremes.

Latchy

The class of 78 were a fine bunch of lads ....great year for the wine to .

Brussels Sprout

I did the survey twice with all the same info except for my living arrangements. In one I said I rented, in the other I said that I had a house valued at 152/250k. In the first instance it put me as emergent service worker, in the second it placed me as established middle class.

That seems massively flawed given the amount of people in negative equity at the moment

pickarooney

Ray Palmer wrote: »

I know a couple who were going out for years as teenagers. He went on to be a bank manager in a nice area and she went on to be a single mother living in Ballymun. They were pretty much from the same back ground. You can argue if one is more successful than the other if you like but they are pretty much at the end of the extremes.

Well we certainly have a snob class...

BillyMitchel

I see some have said that there is no elite class in Ireland. Would the Smurfit family not be considered elite?

Truncheon Rouge

7 different classes of people who are invariably fcked in the end anyway.

Latchy

Truncheon Rouge wrote: »

7 different classes of people who are invariably fcked in the end anyway.

Taking it up the ass will be a lot harder for some more than others to.

steddyeddy

I never trust this stuff, we need more classes. I am in college with people of all social distinctions. Its useless to me. We used to divide people by race until science proved there is no such thing now we have another system in place to grade things.

IM0

that is one of the most retarded set of biast questions I have ever seen. on the test someone linked to after the OP :rolleyes:

Where's the survey?

Airitech

bluewolf wrote: »

Where's the survey?

Here's a link:
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22000973

There is a link in the last line of the OP, took me about 10 minutes to find it.

Airitech

I'm established middle class. Well that's not accurate anyway, my job couldn't be any more blue collar.

Emergent service workers for renting, true

Established middle class if I owned a house
lol

steddyeddy

bluewolf wrote: »

Emergent service workers for renting, true

Established middle class if I owned a house
lol

In fairness every other description of middle class could be described as lol.

steddyeddy

As regards elite classes, if they exist would include wealthy academics or self made millionares.

K-9

token101 wrote: »

Traditional working class - scores low on all forms of capital, but is not completely deprived. Its members have reasonably high house values, explained by this group having the oldest average age at 66

It's very British, that one above would be very Thatcher and people buying council houses in the early 80's. Same happened here too I suppose.

We've had a much more severe property crash so our version shouldn't be as reliant on property.

@steddyeddy, I wouldn't see self made millionaires as the elite, talented and often lucky maybe, but not an established elite. Political dynasties are probably closer here, whether that be FF or FG. Even fortunes built up by the Smurfit's or O'Reilly's of this world can get eaten away.

Going to a private school, D4 probably, plays rugby, the old boys network will love you, that would be our nearest to Oxford, the Bullingdon club, Cameron, Boris and the other Tory toffs.

PhlegmyMoses

Technical middle class based purely on earnings, I reckon. The survey is too narrow anyway.