"HSE funding advice on teen threesomes" - Sindo

carpothepunk

A wonderful journo with absolutely no previous history of this kind of sensationalist ****e contacted Spunout.ie yesterday to talk about teen threesomes. They gave her her interview and posted an article about it, a time ago, I believe (http://spunout.ie/life/article/threesomes).

She later tweeted that "HSE funding advice on teen threesomes telling them it can "inject serious passion n2 their bedroom shenanigans" in 2mros Sunday Independent". I haven't seen the article myself yet, but the journalist in question also claims the organization received 250k in state funding, despite being told otherwise on the phone several hours beforehand. The exact figure is 124k I believe. Spunout.ie printed a reply here (http://spunout.ie/about/press/arm-young-people-with-facts-not-fear)

More salacious bollocks to sell a few papers, and more reason for me to think that I wouldn't wrap my chips in it.

DB10

Think I speak for everyone when I say:

Pics or GTFO

13spanner

Left AND right hand?

Praetorian Saighdiuir

Feck that.

I wouldn't have a threeway with two legal teenagers. For a start, I'm too old.

I pity the young lad that gets to, the feckers would be texting during it, duckfacing, ****ty fake tan, OMFG LOL etc, instagram that ballbag, tweet that tit. ride me sideways was another one.

Plus, they wouldn't know what to do with it if I pointed it at them.

/off to Coppers to test the theory.

Boombastic

carpothepunk wrote: »

A wonderful journo with absolutely no previous history of this kind of sensationalist ****e contacted Spunout.ie yesterday to talk about teen threesomes. They gave her her interview and posted an article about it, a time ago, I believe (http://spunout.ie/life/article/threesomes).

She later tweeted that "HSE funding advice on teen threesomes telling them it can "inject serious passion n2 their bedroom shenanigans" in 2mros Sunday Independent". I haven't seen the article myself yet, but the journalist in question also claims the organization received 250k in state funding, despite being told otherwise on the phone several hours beforehand. The exact figure is 124k I believe. Spunout.ie printed a reply here (http://spunout.ie/about/press/arm-young-people-with-facts-not-fear)

More salacious bollocks to sell a few papers, and more reason for me to think that I wouldn't wrap my chips in it.

The links don't work

carpothepunk

Just tried them there and they are working for me. Don't have a copy of the paper, if anyone would like to throw up a scan. There's a piece on the front page and more within.

donvito99

The meeja. At it again. The BASTARDS Ted.

Duggy747

The jokes on a Penguin bar have more facts and worthy information than the printed-with-diarrhea, socialites-delight rag that is the Sindo.

Nodin

"Teenagers Having Sex!!!!" mixed with a bit of "Your Money Wasted!!!". Very classy.

Next week - "Nudie Wimmin On Teh IntarWebz!!!".

Sofiztikated

Nodin wrote: »

"Teenagers Having Sex!!!!" mixed with a bit of "Your Money Wasted!!!". Very classy.

Next week - "Nudie Wimmin On Teh IntarWebz claim the dole!!!".

FYP

starviewadams

More world class journalism my the Sindo,why bother with important topics when they can easily blow a harmless one way out of proportion.Could only be more full of bullshít if they could somehow implicate ''social meeja'' and get wanker seanad members involved.

Cavehill Red

carpothepunk wrote: »

A wonderful journo with absolutely no previous history of this kind of sensationalist sh1te ...

Let me just stop you there. Ye wha? She writes for the Sindo. They ALL have previous at this malarkey.
Get the eye bleach ready. Here's the "article". It's an orgy now, not a threesome, for added outrage: http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/mulherin-outrage-at-statesponsored-orgy-tips-29150295.html

stoneill

Unfair - a charity for teenage threesome sex.

All we had was a Trocaire box to bring home.

carpothepunk

Cavehill Red wrote: »

Let me just stop you there. Ye wha? She writes for the Sindo. They ALL have previous at this malarkey.
Get the eye bleach ready. Here's the "article". It's an orgy now, not a threesome, for added outrage: http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/mulherin-outrage-at-statesponsored-orgy-tips-29150295.html

I was being sarcastic.

1ZRed

Duggy747 wrote: »

The jokes on a Penguin bar have more facts and worthy information than the printed-with-diarrhea, socialites-delight rag that is the Sindo.

I see a gap in the market for your sex bars, sir!

I think everyone should have a threesome at least once. They're unreal craic altogether!

admiralofthefleet

stoneill wrote: »

Unfair - a charity for teenage threesome sex.

All we had was a Trocaire box to bring home.

kids nowadays have a troika box

Corkfeen

They should really obliged to place a link on the independent to point out how selective their quoting is. The comments section is sickening.

Brego888

Won't somebody PLEASE think of the children

Con Logue

It's not called the Sindo for nothing you know!!

It's niche is now good livin' middle class folks in the country who would be too embarrassed to buy the News of the Screws, if it still existed.

Nodin

Con Logue wrote: »

It's not called the Sindo for nothing you know!!

It's niche is now good livin' middle class folks in the country who would be too embarrassed to buy the News of the Screws, if it still existed.

At least that had proper nudity and crap. All the sindo has is lovely girls and lisa murphy

*shudder

Xivilai

Any chance of a scat section?

Nodin

Xivilai wrote: »

Any chance of a scat section?

...in a sense, isn't it all scat?

Three Seasons

Don't see what's wrong with threesomes or teens having threesomes. If you deem someone old enough to have sex then they can choose the sort of sexual practices that they want to have.

P_1

Ah good old Irish conservatism. From what I can tell the organisation in question supplied non biased information. It seems our 'betters' don't want us having access to this kind of non biased information. Perhaps they are concerned that we can't make our own minds up.

flatbackfour

http://spunout.ie/life/article/threesomes

Something highly dubious about this information. Seriously maybe promoting threesums among teenagers is probably not the most appropriate thing for this website to be doing. And by any means this is promotion.

Why does it not say engaging in three sums as a teenagers is probably not the best idea as developmentally your probably not ready.

Whats wrong with just telling teens "your not ready yet".

Of course why not give information about how to inject heroin or how to roll a spliff of how to go knacker drinking down the fields, sure kids are going to do it anyway.

Cupcake_Crisis

Twitter is going bananas over this, your woman is an awful plank. She attacked a pretty solid organisation who can back themselves up when she cant.

flatbackfour

P_1 wrote: »

Ah good old Irish conservatism. From what I can tell the organisation in question supplied non biased information. It seems our 'betters' don't want us having access to this kind of non biased information. Perhaps they are concerned that we can't make our own minds up.

You are seriously telling me this information is not ideologically bias????? Are you kidding me.

Of course its only right wing conservatives who have an ideological bias.

P_1

flatbackfour wrote: »

You are seriously telling me this information is not ideologically bias????? Are you kidding me.

Of course its only right wing conservatives who have an ideological bias.

Yes by definition it is liberally biased. People have the right to do what they want to with their own bodies and the information about this should not be controlled.

"Over himself, over his body and mind, the individual is sovereign"

Odysseus

flatbackfour wrote: »

http://spunout.ie/life/article/threesomes

Something highly dubious about this information. Seriously maybe promoting threesums among teenagers is probably not the most appropriate thing for this website to be doing. And by any means this is promotion.

Why does it not say engaging in three sums as a teenagers is probably not the best idea as developmentally your probably not ready.

Whats wrong with just telling teens "your not ready yet".

Of course why not give information about how to inject heroin or how to roll a spliff of how to go knacker drinking down the fields, sure kids are going to do it anyway.

We already give out info on safer injecting practices, at the same time as they get this info they will be connecting with treatment services.

If you end up in a clinic reading about safer injecting, well to be fair their is a good chance you will need that info soon.

Staff at my clinic have been giving out info like on drugs and sex to anyone who needs them. At least this way they get the best info available and if the need extra support or treatment staff can try get them to avail of it.

However, no body forces such behaviour on anyone, people will always be told the safest sex is no sex and to avoid all drug use if possible. However, if people are going to do these things, yes a profession should talk to them telling them the consequences of such behaviour.

Would you rather we deny people access to this info?

flatbackfour

P_1 wrote: »

Yes by definition it is liberally biased. People have the right to do what they want to with their own bodies and the information about this should not be controlled.

"Over himself, over his body and mind, the individual is sovereign"

But this information is controlled. Dont you see. Its controlled accrording to the bias of those writing it.

I would agree that adults have a right to do what they want with their own bodies. I personally draw the line at a government funded website aimed at teen mental health not firstly at least saying " kids maybe engaging in threesums at your age is probably not advisable" as a starting point.

But hey call me a right wing reactionary conservative if you like.

efb

Who is the Sindo kidding! Self serving middle class chattering classes with a pippa O'Connor pullout

efb

flatbackfour wrote: »

But this information is controlled. Dont you see. Its controlled accrording to the bias of those writing it.

I would agree that adults have a right to do what they want with their own bodies. I personally draw the line at a government funded website aimed at teen mental health not firstly at least saying " kids maybe engaging in threesums at your age is probably not advisable" as a starting point.

But hey call me a right wing reactionary conservative if you like.

I do believe the site gave the pros and cons

P_1

flatbackfour wrote: »

But this information is controlled. Dont you see. Its controlled accrording to the bias of those writing it.

I would agree that adults have a right to do what they want with their own bodies. I personally draw the line at a government funded website aimed at teen mental health not firstly at least saying " kids maybe engaging in threesums at your age is probably not advisable" as a starting point.

But hey call me a right wing reactionary conservative if you like.

That's a fair point. IMO a balanced article should have pointed out both the positive and negative consequences to teens having threesomes and allowed the teenagers to make their own minds up.

That's assuming that you think that teenagers are capable of making that decision.

flatbackfour

Odysseus wrote: »

Would you rather we deny people access to this info?

INformation is fine but why not say as a fist principal that engaging in threesums as a teenager is probably not the best thing to be doing. Teens are not developmentally ready for this kind of activity. Even as an adult engaging in three sums is probably only ever going to lead to jealously regret insecurity etc.

Threesums fun? As a teen? FFS i must be getting old.

flatbackfour

efb wrote: »

I do believe the site gave the pros and cons

The pros and cons of teens engaging in theesums is pretty oxymornic.

efb

flatbackfour wrote: »

INformation is fine but why not say as a fist principal that engaging in threesums as a teenager is probably not the best thing to be doing. Teens are not developmentally ready for this kind of activity. Even as an adult engaging in three sums is probably only ever going to lead to jealously regret insecurity etc.

Threesums fun? As a teen? FFS i must be getting old.

Really? I enjoyed the ones I took part it. Everyone practiced safe sex too

efb

flatbackfour wrote: »

The pros and cons of teens engaging in theesums is pretty oxymornic.

How so?

P_1

flatbackfour wrote: »

The pros and cons of teens engaging in theesums is pretty oxymornic.

In your opinion.

However how does that effect you personally? It seems to me that the only 'harm' they are causing is offence to random strangers who really shouldn't be poking their nose into it either way.

Cool_CM

flatbackfour wrote: »

You are seriously telling me this information is not ideologically bias????? Are you kidding me.

Of course its only right wing conservatives who have an ideological bias.

Is in not more ideologically biased not to provide the information as opposed to providing positives and negatives and letting somebody decide for themselves?

flatbackfour wrote: »

Even as an adult engaging in three sums is probably only ever going to lead to jealously regret insecurity etc

They mention that on the site too.

spunout.ie/life/article/threesomes wrote:

Cons
The jealousy monster. You or your partner might feel jealous afterwards, no matter how much you tried to divide your time equally between the two people.

The insecurity. You or your partner may feel that the other person had a better body than you. You may worry that your partner fancies them more.

The relationship could break down. In the worst case scenario, you may not be able to move past jealousy. You may wonder why you even needed the threesome in the first place. You could ultimately end up breaking up.

flatbackfour

efb wrote: »

How so?

Well you think teens are developmentally ready to engage in threesums, that they have the kind of social and emotional skills to be able to process the wide range of emotional and psychological issues around this kind of activity. You dont think as a first point of advice kids should be told maybe wait till you are ready emotionally. thats fine, let the teens reap the reward of this not judgmental impartial advice.

P_1

Cool_CM wrote: »

Is in not more ideologically biased not to provide the information as opposed to providing positives and negatives and letting somebody decide for themselves?

Unfortunately people seem to like to have everything categorised. It seems that this simple way of doing things is categorised as liberal and some people just do not like that for whatever reason.

What is a threesome?
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Also, remember that in the Republic of Ireland the legal age of consent is 17, and in Northern Ireland it is 16.

Pros

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Cons

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Top tips for keeping it safe and enjoyable

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Headings from the article
Nothing wrong there

Pretending things don't exist is an awful way to educate someone

P_1

bluewolf wrote: »

Headings from the article
Nothing wrong there

Pretending things don't exist is an awful way to educate someone

Now lets not let the facts get in the way of a good old fashioned moan

flatbackfour

P_1 wrote: »

In your opinion.

However how does that effect you personally? It seems to me that the only 'harm' they are causing is offence to random strangers who really shouldn't be poking their nose into it either way.

Well i happen to think that promoting teens into having threesums is pretty bad for society and for teens themselves, without at least first offering the advice to teens that they are probably not ready developmentally for such activity.

I deal with kids every day I see how they are more and more being manipulated by a overly sexualised media that it obsessed with sex as just a fun activity without any emotional consequences. I would expect a more nuanced approach from such a website.

Just don't buy into the consumerist of sexuality as an individualized product without consequences.

efb

flatbackfour wrote: »

Well i happen to think that promoting teens into having threesums is pretty bad for society and for teens themselves, without at least first offering the advice to teens that they are probably not ready developmentally for such activity.

I deal with kids every day I see how they are more and more being manipulated by a overly sexualised media that it obsessed with sex as just a fun activity without any emotional consequences. I would expect a more nuanced approach from such a website.

Just don't buy into the consumerist of sexuality as an individualized product without consequences.

Are these over the age of consent? Because that's you the article is aimed at

flatbackfour

bluewolf wrote: »

Headings from the article
Nothing wrong there

Pretending things don't exist is an awful way to educate someone

Why not have said at the beginning of the artical that as a teenager is probably on balance unwise to have a threesum?

Do you think haveing a threesum as a teenage is a normal healthy activity

flatbackfour

You're obsessed with "promoting"
Promoting swimming lessons does not cause drowning
Promoting seatbelts does not lead to more car crashes
and promoting safe sex including tips for those who want to engage in threesomes and what problems to watch out for, is not going to make them all go have more sex and mess them up
More information is a good thing

flatbackfour wrote: »

Why not have said at the beginning of the artical that as a teenager is probably on balance unwise to have a threesum?

Do you think haveing a threesum as a teenage is a normal healthy activity

18 and 19 year olds are adults and may have them if they judge for themselves they're able for it.
If they are not able for deciding these things for themselves in sexual matters, discussion on the topic of threesomes alone is by far the least of their worries.

P_1

flatbackfour wrote: »

Well i happen to think that promoting teens into having threesums is pretty bad for society and for teens themselves, without at least first offering the advice to teens that they are probably not ready developmentally for such activity.

I deal with kids every day I see how they are more and more being manipulated by a overly sexualised media that it obsessed with sex as just a fun activity without any emotional consequences. I would expect a more nuanced approach from such a website.

Just don't buy into the consumerist of sexuality as an individualized product without consequences.

But thats what that article did.

It outlined the most common positives, the most common negatives, offered advice as to how to do it safely and allowed them to decide for themselves.

What can possibly be wrong with that?

efb

flatbackfour wrote: »

Why not have said at the beginning of the artical that as a teenager is probably on balance unwise to have a threesum?

Do you think haveing a threesum as a teenage is a normal healthy activity

17+ I don't see the issue as long as everyone is fully aware, protected, and willing

efb

Luckily no-one ever got pregnant before they were married when it wasn't talked about.

Cool_CM

flatbackfour wrote: »

Well i happen to think that promoting teens into having threesums is pretty bad for society and for teens themselves, without at least first offering the advice to teens that they are probably not ready developmentally for such activity.

I deal with kids every day I see how they are more and more being manipulated by a overly sexualised media that it obsessed with sex as just a fun activity without any emotional consequences. I would expect a more nuanced approach from such a website.

Just don't buy into the consumerist of sexuality as an individualized product without consequences.

Teenagers are doing this whether you like it or not. Surely it is better provide them with information as to the pros and cons of what they are doing on an impartial website. Why a nuanced approach? Give facts and info in black and white so there can be no misunderstandings.