Star Trek scriptwriting

Myrddin

The Defector, love that ep :cool:

Goldstein

Voy: In the flesh. The one where they ruin Species 8472 in such an utterly proposterous manner that one can only assume it was on purpose.

They'd shown a hint of thinking outside the usual confines of the Voyager writing box when they came up with 8472 (Fluidic space, the bioships, no verbal communication, undertones of "evil") but to humanise them both literally and figuratively rendered all their malevolance and uniqueness impotent. All it was missing was the crew holding hands with a load of 8472s singing Kumbaya around a campfire. I'd forgotten just how ridiculously bad that one was. In terms of lazy, wreckless and destructive writing this one has to be one of Voyager's biggest sins.

Kirby

Goldstein wrote: »

In terms of lazy, wreckless and destructive writing this one has to be one of Voyager's biggest sins.

Warp 10 lizard babies says hello. :P

nyarlothothep

Goldstein wrote: »

Voy: In the flesh. The one where they ruin Species 8472 in such an utterly proposterous manner that one can only assume it was on purpose.

They'd shown a hint of thinking outside the usual confines of the Voyager writing box when they came up with 8472 (Fluidic space, the bioships, no verbal communication, undertones of "evil") but to humanise them both literally and figuratively rendered all their malevolance and uniqueness impotent. All it was missing was the crew holding hands with a load of 8472s singing Kumbaya around a campfire. I'd forgotten just how ridiculously bad that one was. In terms of lazy, wreckless and destructive writing this one has to be one of Voyager's biggest sins.

Imo species 8472 were Alien rip-offs. The writers were going for something scary in order to replicate the borg effect but just went with the lazy big alien-esque monsters look.

Myrddin

nyarlothothep wrote: »

Imo species 8472 were Alien rip-offs. The writers were going for something scary in order to replicate the borg effect but just went with the lazy big alien-esque monsters look.

Agreed. Tasked with introducing an alien 'even more powerful than the Borg', the results were, shall we say, pitiful They were onto something with fluidic space, but as above, once it went to them disguising themselves as humans (done already with DS9/Changeling's), & Janeway making deals with 8472 etc...the concept was already ruined

Goldstein

Kirby wrote: »

Warp 10 lizard babies says hello. :P

Ya, that one's top of the tree alright.
To be fair they all have their fair share of stupid going on: Spock's brain, Move Along Home, Up the Long Ladder, Justice, Rogue Planet, Sub Rosa etc. Luckily most of the time these were just one off brain-fart episodes and didn't have any detrimental impact on the series in general.

Rawr

Khan: He tasks me. He tasks me and I shall have him! I'll chase him 'round the moons of Nibia and 'round the Antares Maelstrom and 'round perdition's flames before I give him up!

(Classic stuff, although they did lift most of that from Moby Dick )

mr lee

t'pol to her baby;mother's here

Kirby

Fathers not.

Coz they killed him.....for no reason.

mr lee

in fairness the last episode of enterprise was a complete farce