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Stripped threads on bleed screw on oil burner

  • 18-03-2013 01:17AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19


    I have had to bleed the oil burner a lot recently. Today, I went to bleed it but the threads on the inside of the bleed screw hole have stripped and the screw won't tighten! What do I do? Any help is appreciated.:confused:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,677 ✭✭✭shane0007


    Lou1978 wrote: »
    I have had to bleed the oil burner a lot recently. Today, I went to bleed it but the threads on the inside of the bleed screw hole have stripped and the screw won't tighten! What do I do? Any help is appreciated.:confused:
    What burner is it?
    You could try some PTFE tape on the thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 Lou1978


    It's a SIME?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,677 ✭✭✭shane0007


    Lou1978 wrote: »
    It's a SIME?
    That's the boiler not the burner, however it is probably a Bentone on the Sime. Again, short term fix is PTFE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 Lou1978


    Do you have any idea what a long term fix would b? If I was to replace the part, do you know the name if the part I'd have to replace?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Robbie.G


    Lou1978 wrote: »
    Do you have any idea what a long term fix would b? If I was to replace the part, do you know the name if the part I'd have to replace?
    The oil pump


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,842 ✭✭✭Billy Bunting


    It will likely require a complete pump but what burner is fitted to the boiler ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 Lou1978


    How can I find out what burner is on it? Is an oil pump expensive or will that depend on the type of the burner?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 Lou1978


    A Riello 40, would that be it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 924 ✭✭✭jjf1974


    an oil pump for a Riello burner is around 90 euro to buy.http://www.pjmatthews.ie/oil-boiler-spares


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Robbie.G


    Lou1978 wrote: »
    A Riello 40, would that be it?
    An oil pump for your burner would set you back somewhere in the region of €140-€160.If its a case that you run out of oil regular it might be no harm to get a boiler bleed fitted at the same time it will stop the bleed screw getting wrecked again


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 Lou1978


    Are all riello oil pumps the same or is there a specific number that I would need to get? Sorry for all the questions, I really don't have a clue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 shiver1


    ptfe


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭DGOBS


    PTFE...ERR.. noooooo.....replace, a leak is a lot more costly that a new pump!

    And in future use the vacuum port for bleeding, not the pressure port.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 Lou1978


    DGOBS wrote: »
    PTFE...ERR.. noooooo.....replace, a leak is a lot more costly that a new pump!

    And in future use the vacuum port for bleeding, not the pressure port.

    I think it was the vacuum port is was using. It is a gold coloured screw, not the black one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Robbie.G


    Lou1978 wrote: »

    I think it was the vacuum port is was using. It is a gold coloured screw, not the black one.
    Were you bleeding burner from front front of burner or at the side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 Lou1978


    Robbie.G wrote: »
    Were you bleeding burner from front front of burner or at the side.

    From the front.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Robbie.G


    Lou1978 wrote: »

    From the front.
    Then it's definitely a new oil pump you will need someone who knows what they're doing to fit it preferably Oftec reg.Where are you located because there are plenty of good oil men here someone might be able to sort you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭jimf


    have come across 2 recently with exact same problem got a friend to re thread and fit new 1/8" bsp insert works perfect


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 Lou1978


    Robbie.G wrote: »
    Then it's definitely a new oil pump you will need someone who knows what they're doing to fit it preferably Oftec reg.Where are you located because there are plenty of good oil men here someone might be able to sort you

    The hills of Donegal! If I were to order a new one online, I'd b afraid that I'd order the wrong one. Are there different types or a number anywhere on it that I need?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 Lou1978


    jimf wrote: »
    have come across 2 recently with exact same problem got a friend to re thread and fit new 1/8" bsp insert works perfect

    What would I need to do that?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭jimf


    Lou1978 wrote: »
    What would I need to do that?

    do you know anybody with a light eng works they should be able to do it for you

    the current pump for the riello 40 is part no 20031996 local supplier to you are
    www.heatingboilerspares.com/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,842 ✭✭✭Billy Bunting


    Repacing an oil pump is not a diy job, you will require the burner to be set up, ie, oil presure and flue gas analysis, without it your just guessing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Robbie.G


    Lou1978 wrote: »

    The hills of Donegal! If I were to order a new one online, I'd b afraid that I'd order the wrong one. Are there different types or a number anywhere on it that I need?
    There's no point in you ordering one and trying to fit it yourself as you need specialist tools to commission it.Ring your local oil boiler repair and service company.If you had a set of tap and dies it is possible to retap the damaged tread just as Jim said


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,842 ✭✭✭Billy Bunting


    PM sent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 Lou1978


    jimf wrote: »
    do you know anybody with a light eng works they should be able to do it for you

    the current pump for the riello 40 is part no 20031996 local supplier to you are
    www.heatingboilerspares.com/

    Not quite sure. Being female, I'm not great with these things.:( It says RBL on the pump, is that of any significance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 Lou1978


    Robbie.G wrote: »
    There's no point in you ordering one and trying to fit it yourself as you need specialist tools to commission it.Ring your local oil boiler repair and service company.If you had a set of tap and dies it is possible to retap the damaged tread just as Jim said

    Is the rethreading hard to do? I know my brother has one of those sets. Would I need a specialist to do that too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭jimf


    Lou1978 wrote: »
    Is the rethreading hard to do? I know my brother has one of those sets. Would I need a specialist to do that too?

    in the right hands i would say its not hard but as already pointed out by billy
    and robbie the important thing is to make sure the burner is set up properly afterwards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,388 ✭✭✭corkgsxr


    If you get bits of metal from threading in the pump you could damage it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭jimf


    corkgsxr wrote: »
    If you get bits of metal from threading in the pump you could damage it

    very valid point thats why you need to know what your at


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 Lou1978


    jimf wrote: »
    have come across 2 recently with exact same problem got a friend to re thread and fit new 1/8" bsp insert works perfect

    What is a bsp insert??


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