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Age of Empires II: HD Coming to Steam

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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Ahem :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭delta36


    Ahem :P

    But..but I even did a boards search for Age of Empires and nothing recent showed.. foiled again! Do with this what you will cherryghost :)

    (I didn't even notice the strategy sub-forum)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    i ****ing loved that game.

    still do ......**** whatever gaming service made it stop and hamachi for not working most of the time ....**** all of them!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    Bundle here for that and AOE3

    http://store.steampowered.com/sub/26189/

    25 quid for the pair.

    AOE3 is pretty good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,381 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Gbear wrote: »
    Bundle here for that and AOE3

    http://store.steampowered.com/sub/26189/

    25 quid for the pair.

    AOE3 is pretty good.

    Even though i'm looking at my physical copy of AoE 3 right now, and trying to figure out how to activate it without install off the CD's, i've just bought that.


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,282 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    I loved AoE2, and will definitely be buying this. I still listed to the music on youtube every now and again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,932 ✭✭✭YouSavedMyLife


    AoK one of my favorite games of all time and my first real online gaming experience, AoE being my first on 56k! :D:D

    But to spend 20 quid on Nostalgia is abit much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,792 ✭✭✭2Mad2BeMad


    i still play aoe3 online :) delighted to hear this is back cant wait to play it , good times :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,381 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    AoK one of my favorite games of all time and my first real online gaming experience, AoE being my first on 56k! :D:D

    But to spend 20 quid on Nostalgia is abit much.

    Aye, but it's fancy nostalgia, plus for a fiver more you're getting AoE: Complete and an upcoming DLC! PC Gaming is going to cause my mortgage lender some serious problems.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,997 ✭✭✭Grimebox


    With match-making? I'm sold if that's anything like Starcraft 2's match making system.

    I wonder if the game is even balanced.

    We used to play on black forest maps so my strat was to harvest nothing but wood and use the market to get anything else I needed. It meant I didn't have to contend over any resource point like gold/stone. Ridiculous when I think back now


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,792 ✭✭✭2Mad2BeMad


    Grimebox wrote: »
    With match-making? I'm sold if that's anything like Starcraft 2's match making system.

    I wonder if the game is even balanced.

    We used to play on black forest maps so my strat was to harvest nothing but wood and use the market to get anything else I needed. It meant I didn't have to contend over any resource point like gold/stone. Ridiculous when I think back now

    that strat is still used today :) i used it with the french in treaty games
    i gather nothing but food for the 40minutes
    then i use a card which switchs all food to gold
    then when the game starts i have over 300k gold, 0 food , 40k wood
    then i put all 80 villagers on food
    great tactic :) the market though is more balanced in aoe3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭Nolars


    Loved this game back in the day:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,561 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    In the original you could pause the game for everyone in multiplayer, I wonder if they'll keep that in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,792 ✭✭✭2Mad2BeMad


    Varik wrote: »
    In the original you could pause the game for everyone in multiplayer, I wonder if they'll keep that in.

    you can still do that
    but if one person clicks resume
    well then the it will over ride the pause for everyone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,561 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    2Mad2BeMad wrote: »
    you can still do that
    but if one person clicks resume
    well then the it will over ride the pause for everyone

    But it was never 1 person that hit pause/resume, a lot of the time it's 2 which meant that when 2 people tried to unpause the game 1 would pause it while the other re-paused it.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    Grimebox wrote: »
    With match-making? I'm sold if that's anything like Starcraft 2's match making system.

    I wonder if the game is even balanced.

    We used to play on black forest maps so my strat was to harvest nothing but wood and use the market to get anything else I needed. It meant I didn't have to contend over any resource point like gold/stone. Ridiculous when I think back now
    I used to play AoE 2 a lot with some friends, we were playing Black Forest when one of them came up with a hilariously effective tactic; he used few trebuchets to dig a line for his army through the trees, avoiding someone's walls and towers to attack him from behind :pac:


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Denny M wrote: »
    I used to play AoE 2 a lot with some friends, we were playing Black Forest when one of them came up with a hilariously effective tactic; he used few trebuchets to dig a line for his army through the trees, avoiding someone's walls and towers to attack him from behind :pac:

    lol, I was there. So many memories.

    Remember when some guy abandoned his settlement and put all his units onto ONE boat? The face on him when I found it hiding. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,792 ✭✭✭2Mad2BeMad


    Varik wrote: »
    But it was never 1 person that hit pause/resume, a lot of the time it's 2 which meant that when 2 people tried to unpause the game 1 would pause it while the other re-paused it.

    i think it their should be timed pauses

    like if one person clicks pause , then a timer counts down say 20-30seconds
    and that you only get two pauses in the game
    in 2v2s each team gets max 3 pauses
    because i still often to this day on aoe3 , need to run to the toliet ( have kidney problems ) and would asked people in the game could i pause it for a few seconds
    most of them would just click resume straight after i pause it , so its not really effective unless their is just one person controlling it for a set amount of time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Denny M wrote: »
    I used to play AoE 2 a lot with some friends, we were playing Black Forest when one of them came up with a hilariously effective tactic; he used few trebuchets to dig a line for his army through the trees, avoiding someone's walls and towers to attack him from behind :pac:

    Ahh the memories. I think before Age of Kings was patched or the Conquerors came out that you could create a farm from a cut tree. So basically all you would do is get your villy's to hack each tree at least 3 times, then waste some wood to 'plant' the new farm. The tree which has still like 90+ wood remaining in it gets converted into the developing farm, then you delete the developing farm so you don't lose excess wood from your resources and you make a nice little path that way through the trees. Trebuchets were too slow.

    The other way was to use onagers with chemistry researched. (Or was it siege Onagers?) and merely attack the ground at take out a nice pattern of trees in a matter of seconds. There was another technique too that I can't think of right now.

    Another really cruel thing people used to do on Black forest was use the wooden walls (palasides or something?) and build them one after the other, while waiting for slower stone wall to be built miles back. Because wood was in such abundance the gate would merely consist of deleting and rebuilding wooden walls which would often be a ridiculous 4 or 5 walls think. They'd be destroyed in matter of seconds of course, but unless the attacker micromanaged his troops welll they'd just all start attacking random walls and slow down their penetration all the while actually being more vulnerable to archers. Cheap and lousy but effective.
    :D


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    lol, I was there. So many memories.

    Remember when some guy abandoned his settlement and put all his units onto ONE boat? The face on him when I found it hiding. :D
    Those were some good games, best use of a Wednesday afternoon :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    Favourite was building walls around a trebuchet.

    other guy be wondering why i wasting stone just outside his base building little square boxes.

    Stick a trebuchet insider took ages for him to get to it :D

    half his town gone by the time he did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    dreamers75 wrote: »
    Favourite was building walls around a trebuchet.

    other guy be wondering why i wasting stone just outside his base building little square boxes.

    Stick a trebuchet insider took ages for him to get to it :D

    half his town gone by the time he did.

    Oh God I remember playing with somebody in a team game who pulled that technique. I couldn't stop laughing! It was my first time seeing it and I just loved the innovation.

    Another favourite of mine was to leave units maximum garrisoned inside a barracks/stables/etc. 9/10 times unless the enemy was micromanaging their units they'd continue attacking the building when your units appeared outside them and just started flanking them. It was priceless at times.
    (The best one though is when you create demo ships and store them in your own dock.:D)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,816 ✭✭✭TheChrisD


    Jernal wrote: »
    The other way was to use onagers with chemistry researched. (Or was it siege Onagers?) and merely attack the ground at take out a nice pattern of trees in a matter of seconds. There was another technique too that I can't think of right now.

    It was definitely only Siege Onagers, I can remember some of the campaign missions where you were given a couple to shortcut your way through the map :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭Taylor365


    Great game as it was, I wont be picking it up as i don't think it will be as good as it was. Seems like just another nostalgia cash grab.


    How are they going to handle the multiplayer aspect?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,816 ✭✭✭TheChrisD


    Taylor365 wrote: »
    How are they going to handle the multiplayer aspect?

    Based on the trailer, it looks to be like any other Steamworks game, with proper game lobbies and all that lark.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    http://www.twitch.tv/ageofempires

    it's being streamed here atm, looks nice

    --edit

    up to 500 population cap, lol
    has resume from replay (something sc2 only got in the last month)
    no lan support for multiplayer, has to go through steam
    apparently very easy to use over two monitors, can just go into windowed mode (alt+enter) and just drag the window to whatever size you want including across several screens


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,997 ✭✭✭Grimebox


    Why stream a game with cheats on :o


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    presumably they dont want to spend half an hour every game building up their ****? :)


    can use steam matchmaking or the old lobby, awesome

    --edit

    AgeOfEmpires ‏@AgeOfEmpires
    Just revealed on the @AGEIIHD live stream: on March 28th watch pros Viper vs Daut go head to head - more details coming soon!

    could be interesting. 11am pst on the 28th


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,082 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    No love for Age of Mythology?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    no

    none


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    I loved using the Onagers to cut through the forest and surprise attack. All the while berating myself for destroying the environment...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭Lenmeister


    I doubt they will all change over to steam, especially of they don't already use steam. If the majority of experts switch then it might happen. Tyrant RVK etc. Everybody is quite content with using Voobly as it is and I'd more than willingly bet that the majority of them will stay with Voobly. Half the people there probably don't use Steam and will see it as pointless moving over. Why pay for something that's already free that already has good enough client for the most part. Just to get it in HD? I'm in the most active clan on Voobly and maybe 2 people are thinking about moving over. Imo it's glorified nostalgia for a lot, with a price. I don't think it's worth it, especially with my heap of crap pc. That's another reason people won't move over, they don't have a computer or internet good enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    No love for Age of Mythology?

    I thought that it was tremendous fun.



    But what I'd most like is a remake of AoE.

    It's my favourite part of history. Phalanxes and ballistae and the word "habidacus".

    Don't forget "rogan?".
    Good times.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,997 ✭✭✭Grimebox


    Lenmeister wrote: »
    I doubt they will all change over to steam, especially of they don't already use steam. If the majority of experts switch then it might happen. Tyrant RVK etc. Everybody is quite content with using Voobly as it is and I'd more than willingly bet that the majority of them will stay with Voobly. Half the people there probably don't use Steam and will see it as pointless moving over. Why pay for something that's already free that already has good enough client for the most part. Just to get it in HD? I'm in the most active clan on Voobly and maybe 2 people are thinking about moving over. Imo it's glorified nostalgia for a lot, with a price. I don't think it's worth it, especially with my heap of crap pc. That's another reason people won't move over, they don't have a computer or internet good enough.

    I never knew any of this stuff existed


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    Those voice commands were some of the most pointlessly funny things ever.

    "I'll beat you back to Age of Empires!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭Lenmeister


    Grimebox wrote: »
    I never knew any of this stuff existed
    Voobly etc? That's the main client that people use nowadays to play Age of Empires 2 & it's expansions on. A quick google with show you. It's easy to use. You don't need a fast pc. Mine is 10 years old with minimum upgrades. Some ram and graphics card(although old), everything else is the same. And considering the game is now freeware, you can download it on various websites for free, then hop on Voobly and start playing immediatly, for free.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,997 ✭✭✭Grimebox


    Lenmeister wrote: »
    Voobly etc? That's the main client that people use nowadays to play Age of Empires 2 & it's expansions on. A quick google with show you. It's easy to use. You don't need a fast pc. Mine is 10 years old with minimum upgrades. some ram and graphics card(although old), everything else is the same.

    I played with friends using hamachi a few years back. If only I knew


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭Lenmeister


    http://www.voobly.com/ - The main client for Age of Empires 2

    http://www.aoczone.net/ - The main forum for Age of Empires 2 discussion, recorded games, and feedback from the current experts.

    The game and all it's updates/patches can be downloaded for free on aoczone.

    Not many people from Europe or the Americas use Hamachi. A lot of people do use it but for all English speakers I'd suggest Voobly way before Hamachi. Many people tend to have huge lag issues with the Chinese players etc.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    Lenmeister wrote: »
    The game and all it's updates/patches can be downloaded for free on aoczone.

    legally?


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    legally?

    Apparently yes, a few years ago when Microsoft shut down the MSN Games Zone they gave a nod to Voobly and co to unofficially (but legally!) continue to run (Gameranger is another one).

    I don't think aoczone has AOE to download though. Just custom patches to improve competitive gameplay. Thing is though both Voobly and Gamerangers servers both support legal AND illegal copies of the game, so its a bit of a grey area that I'm sure will be addressed before this HD launch


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭Lenmeister


    legally?
    Yes. The game is now pretty much freeware since the license etc has expired.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055907567&page=2

    AOK/AOC isn't pirate anymore. The game is freeware - for lack of a better word - since ES/Microsoft have long since lost the licensing rights. Technically speaking it would be illegal to "download" it. But the fact the the licensing rights are gone means that it's not really illegal anymore. I'm not good with the legal illegal stuff but as far as I know, once a company loses their license or the license expires, that's it. Unless you can prove otherwise.

    In case you're wondering I have been playing since about 2001, for most of the last 12 years, so I know what the deal is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    Was the cheat word 'photon man' in AOE or another game ?

    50 dudes with lasers slaughtering hundreds of farmers and archers was hilarious :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭Lenmeister


    No idea, cheats are for losers that can't finish the campaigns :P I had to make regular use of RobinHood and CheeseSteakJimmys in 1 particular campaign, can't remember which one. Stop cheating and play online!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    yeah photon man was aoe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Shall never forget the cheat that turned the owl into a fire breathing dragon. T'was fun.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,375 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    I remember playing this in a LAN at work and my boss starting cursing (he did not know the cheats did not work in multiplayer and was going to try to cheat to beat us all :P ).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭DipStick McSwindler


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 846 ✭✭✭TheFullDuck


    anybody pre-order this on steam? says were meant to be able to play it today but it aint workng :(

    unlocked for me, installing now :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭Lenmeister


    They had major problems with the promotion HD stream of Daut vs Viper, not sure if that had the same problems with the multiplayer. I know a good few now that have it. I think today or yester there were 11k players online at once, though it was expected to be higher. There's a flood of complaints on the forums but that's to be expected until they sort out any glitches or multiplayer problems. A lot of people will also hold off until all those bugs are fixed, then buy it. The main thing right now is that they have a player base, which will give them all the feedback and bug reporting they need. From then on the numbers should go up.


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