FaceBook revisited

Torakx

The Google thread got me curious about facebook again.
Since I started college I have been getting pushed closer and closer to being on it and I dont reallly want to.
I already get weird looks because my email is not in my name and also weird looks because I am questioning signing up for things online and giving my personal information to corporations for student license agreements.The latter there was no need to do so,but I got a weird look for saying I didnt want to lol
Its quite strange. I think people simply sign up for everything and put their real names in too.


So heres some new policy change docs I came across.
https://fbcdn-dragon-a.akamaihd.net/cfs-ak-prn1/676641/517/256230001169573_786305489.pdf

Il post some interesting or not so interesting parts.

Its quite large and I doubt many people ever read this global governance change they have voted on.Apparently the end date was dec 2012.

This Statement of Rights and Responsibilities ("Statement," "Terms," or "SRR") derives from the
Facebook
Principles
, and is our terms of service that governs our relationship with users and others who interact with
Facebook. By using or accessing Facebook, you agree to this Statement, as updated from time to time in
accordance with Section 14 below

For content that is covered by intellectual property rights, like photos and videos (IP content), you specifically give us the following permission, subject to your privacy and application settings you grant us a non exclusive, transferable, sub licensable, royalty free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook (IP License)

You will keep your contact information accurate and up to date

I didnt know this was a legally binding rule ^^

Special Provisions Applicable to Devel
opers/Operators of Applications and Websites.

We can analyze your application, content, and data for any purpose, including commercial.

Special Provisions Applicable to Users Outside the United States

You consent to having your
personal data transferred to and processed in the United States.

By "Facebook" we mean the features and services we make available, including through (a) our website at www.facebook.com and any other Facebook branded or co branded websites (including sub domains, international versi
ons, widgets, and mobile versions); (b) our Platform; (c) social
plugins such as the Like button, the Share button and other similar offerings and (d) other media,
software (such as a toolbar), devices, or networks now existing or later developed.



By "information" we mean facts and other information about you, inc
luding actions taken by users
and non users who interact with Facebook.



By "content" we mean anything you or other users post on Facebook that would not be included in
the definition of information

By the way "facebook" is ment to include other networks? whats that mean?
See content....That means anything you post on other networks? how does that work?

Anyway this is probably not worth the time I gave it

But meh.
I wanted to post that and ask the odd question.
While also asking the Ct community whats the latest on FB and I would like a refresher course on the Ct that it is run(or was backed) by the FBI or CIA.

Is that just a CT?
Or am I in the wrong place?

thiarfearr

I'm on facebook, don't trust it though. I don't think Zuckerberg believes in privacy at all.

Dicky Pride

I believe that if you want privacy, you should stay away from facebook.

Best username ever

Dicky Pride wrote: »

I believe that if you want privacy, you should stay away from facebook.

Thinking about closing my FB account, did it last year for a few months. I keep coming back because I have family in Oz, and it's great to chat with them.

Logical_Bear

Best username ever wrote: »

Thinking about closing my FB account, did it last year for a few months. I keep coming back because I have family in Oz, and it's great to chat with them.

thats one of the better reasons.I have a fb account but its just to keep an eye on what my young fella is up to(big daddy is watching you etc etc )

as a piece of software i fukking despise it.You need to have a law degree to understand the privacy sh1te!

Torakx

I made a FB account years ago.It sits idle.I have a message on it to say dont bother contacting me I dont use it for data protection reasons or something like that.
I presumed once the pictures are up they have been saved in the states and backed up.
Unless if I delete my account and info and on my contacts added they also lose my profile info.
But on the CT side of things IF it has the FBI/CIA etc behind the scenes it wont matter if I delete the info.
But loads of my relatives use it and keep trying to add me lol

Best username ever

Torakx wrote: »

But on the CT side of things IF it has the FBI/CIA etc behind the scenes it wont matter if I delete the info.

Well Harvard is supposed to be where the CIA/NSA bank roll students and their ideas. While in the back round they have access to all user accounts.

Anyone that thinks the intelligence community doesn't or can't have access to FB is living in dreamland. The very idea that they wouldn't is ludacris. Imagine having all that information on tap and not looking at it???? Yeah right.

Torakx

Best username ever wrote: »

Well Harvard is supposed to be where the CIA/NSA bank roll students and their ideas. While in the back round they have access to all user accounts.

Anyone that thinks the intelligence community doesn't or can't have access to FB is living in dreamland. The very idea that they wouldn't is ludacris. Imagine having all that information on tap and not looking at it???? Yeah right.

AHHH I hadnt really heard that about Harvard.
Im a bit ignorant in respect to the colleges.
That might be a nice area to research or discuss.
If you have any links to CT's on that or info I would appreciate it.

Best username ever

I believe he's nothing more than a front man that was bank rolled in college, the persistent rumors of this last year caused a number of news papers and píss takers to do a spoof about it. Somebody obviously wanted to quiet those rumors and make the idea outrageous.

mark-zuckerberg-awarded-cia-surveillance-award/

Well, now it is official. Mark Zuckerberg was not so smart after all, but just fronting for the CIA in one of the biggest Intelligence coups of all times.
But there remains one small problem, the CIA is not supposed to monitor Americans. I guess we will hear more on that soon from the lawyers once the litigation gets cranked up.
Personally I will be more interested in how this is going to effect the stock offering and shares as all Americans should own the entity that has been spying on them.
And then there are the SEC full disclosure regulations and penalties. It’s bonanza time for the lawyers.
Could the loophole the CIA used be that, ‘you aren’t being spied on if you are willingly posting everything a repressive regime would love to have on your Facebook account, with no threats, no family hostages, no dirty movies or photos that could be released?
But enough with the lead in. Let’s take you directly to our source where you can get it straight from the source’s mouth, including seeing Zuckerberg getting his award.
We really need your comments on this below so we can speak to power with one voice…something that can rarely be done around here.

The píss take.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFH3uLuNL5Y

Aquarius34

Anyone who thinks that Mark Zuckerburg is the mastermind/controller of facebook is blinded and has been easily led on to that deception. He's just front The same way Obama is just a front for the elite to pull their strings. It's no secret that Mark Zuckerburg is a CIA agent and it's no secret that facebook was created as a CIA database network.

hooradiation

Aquarius34 wrote: »

Anyone who thinks that Mark Zuckerburg is the mastermind/controller of facebook is right.

Fixed that for you.
Facebook isn't a new idea, or a particularly inventive one. But like everything else it's not who does it first, it's the first one to do it well.

You don't have to be hyperclever to refine something that's come before. Right place, right time, and right opportunity. It, literally, could have been anyone of millions of people who created what we know as facebook.

Aquarius34

hooradiation wrote: »

Fixed that for you.
Facebook isn't a new idea, or a particularly inventive one. But like everything else it's not who does it first, it's the first one to do it well.

You don't have to be hyperclever to refine something that's come before. Right place, right time, and right opportunity. It, literally, could have been anyone of millions of people who created what we know as facebook.

Twisting what I said, doesn't stand for anything. I meant what I said.

It could of been literally anyone, but it wasn't anyone else. It was Mark Zuckerburg. It was planned to be so.

Hoop66

It's only a problem for those of you that a) upload all your secret stuff that you don't want the gubmint finding out about and b) are so stupid that you can't work out the privacy controls.

It's simple: don't put anything you don't want anyone to know about online.

As for "selling my data to marketeers", whoop-de-****n-doo. I'm already bombarded by advertising pretty much everywhere I go, it might be nice if it was for stuff I actually want.

Aquarius34

Hoop66 wrote: »

It's only a problem for those of you that a) upload all your secret stuff that you don't want the gubmint finding out about and b) are so stupid that you can't work out the privacy controls.

It's simple: don't put anything you don't want anyone to know about online.

As for "selling my data to marketeers", whoop-de-****n-doo. I'm already bombarded by advertising pretty much everywhere I go, it might be nice if it was for stuff I actually want.

It's not just like that. They are constantly changing their settings, rules and privacy settings. Which means they are not sticking to the terms and conditions they themselves created. They are constantly trying to manipulate it's network in ways to suit their agendas. It's a database network for the CIA. That's what it was designed for.

It's also why the elite are very comfortable using this site, because they are automatically protected by the law and CIA.

Hoop66

Oh, I see.

hooradiation

Aquarius34 wrote: »

Twisting what I said, doesn't stand for anything. I meant what I said.

It could of been literally anyone, but it wasn't anyone else. It was Mark Zuckerburg. It was planned to be so.

What you said has an erroneous assumption at it's core.

The idea that it was "planned" is built on the notion that Zuckerberg isn't smart enough to come up with the idea of refining another persons idea on his own.
He was, and so are a lot of other people, Facebook wasn't the first website of it's kind as you probably know.

So I think we can disregard that idea as the faulty conclusion it is.

Sacksian

Aquarius34 wrote: »

It's not just like that. They are constantly changing their settings, rules and privacy settings. Which means they are not sticking to the terms and conditions they themselves created. They are constantly trying to manipulate it's network in ways to suit their agendas. It's a database network for the CIA. That's what it was designed for.

It's also why the elite are very comfortable using this site, because they are automatically protected by the law and CIA.

Surely, its power would be somewhat diminished if people stopped using it??

And I would have thought the people who actually believe it's a CIA website might be the first to abandon it.

I've managed fine without ever having a Facebook account (mostly because I hate its design) and most of my friends and family live in other countries.

Aquarius34

hooradiation wrote: »

What you said has an erroneous assumption at it's core.

Erroneous? Oh I love when you use random words.:D

The idea that it was "planned" is built on the notion that Zuckerberg isn't smart enough to come up with the idea of refining another persons idea on his own.
He was, and so are a lot of other people, Facebook wasn't the first website of it's kind as you probably know.

So I think we can disregard that idea as the faulty conclusion it is.

Whatever Hooradition, Honestly I just find your posts amusing to read.

Brown Bomber

As far as I know Facebook won't be paying taxes anymore. Can someone confirm this? Sounds to me like someone is going to be owing a few billion favours to the government.

Sacksian

Brown Bomber wrote: »

As far as I know Facebook won't be paying taxes anymore. Can someone confirm this? Sounds to me like someone is going to be owing a few billion favours to the government.

Good article clarifying this:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/02/18/facebook-doesnt-pay-taxes-on-its-profits-so-what/

hooradiation

Aquarius34 wrote: »

Erroneous? Oh I love when you use random words.:D

Erroneous.
Adjective
Wrong; incorrect.

It's hardly an esoteric word, nor is it "random".
You might want to rethink that not reading books stance if that's the kind of adjective that confuses you.

Aquarius34 wrote: »

Whatever Hooradition, Honestly I just find your posts amusing to read.

Yes, I know that facts that run counter to what you imagine are hard to address. But I hold a hope you'll rise to the challenge eventually.

Aquarius34

hooradiation wrote: »

Erroneous.
Adjective
Wrong; incorrect.

It's hardly an esoteric word, nor is it "random".
You might want to rethink that not reading books stance if that's the kind of adjective that confuses you.



Yes, I know that facts that run counter to what you imagine are hard to address. But I hold a hope you'll rise to the challenge eventually.

You're not a challenge.

28064212

I'm just curious: what exactly are people putting on Facebook that they wouldn't be comfortable with the authorities seeing?

Hoop66

Seems to me that those who worry about the gubmint looking at their stuff have a vastly overinflated sense of their own importance, so obviously ALL their stuff is of great interest to the [spooky music]powers that be![/spooky music]

hooradiation

Aquarius34 wrote: »

You're not a challenge.

This is true.
Challenge implies something that can be overcome, however given your lack of enthusiasm in any kind of discourse I can only agree with your assessment.

Aquarius34

hooradiation wrote: »

I can only agree with your assessment.

Good.

Torakx

Hoop66 wrote: »

Seems to me that those who worry about the gubmint looking at their stuff have a vastly overinflated sense of their own importance, so obviously ALL their stuff is of great interest to the [spooky music]powers that be![/spooky music]

I think the idea is, that everyone is being profiled and that the average person profiles themselves, doing the US government a favour of sorts.
The issue I have with this, is simply I respect my privacy and dont wish a warmongering state or any state to have a profile of my prsonality and habits and lifestyle.
To me it feels similar to going out the the local park and telling everyone what I had for breakfast,who my friends are and what I do for a living and my hobbies.
Its none of their business.
Information is a type of currency and I dont give much away to strangers if I can help it.

--Kaiser--

Dicky Pride wrote: »

I believe that if you want privacy, you should stay away from facebook.

Bang on. It's not like they're spying on people, people are offering all this information up and they are using it for marketing

keelanj69

How does Aquarius know so much about FB? Do you have a telepathic account with them too? Surely you could block the C.I.A from viewing your page via the power of your alien mind? Unless your race cant outsmart the C.I.A? I just thought, given your superpowers, that youd be the only one of us that could use FB safely.

Hoop66

keelanj69 wrote: »

How does Aquarius know so much about FB? Do you have a telepathic account with them too? Surely you could block the C.I.A from viewing your page via the power of your alien mind? Unless your race cant outsmart the C.I.A? I just thought, given your superpowers, that youd be the only one of us that could use FB safely.

Don't forget "the elite". They can use Facebook safely, because they're protected from the CIA.

Aquarius34

keelanj69 wrote: »

How does Aquarius know so much about FB? Do you have a telepathic account with them too? Surely you could block the C.I.A from viewing your page via the power of your alien mind? Unless your race cant outsmart the C.I.A? I just thought, given your superpowers, that youd be the only one of us that could use FB safely.

That whole post was utterly pathetic.

Torakx

Hoop66 wrote: »

Don't forget "the elite". They can use Facebook safely, because they're protected from the CIA.

Show me their facebook pages.....
Seens any of the Rothchilds on facebook?
Im wiling to bet if a prince etc is on it that his page is run by a company lol

keelanj69

Aquarius34 wrote: »

That whole post was utterly pathetic.

Highlighting the bit about you having an alien mind as that's especially pathetic?

Aquarius34

Torakx wrote: »

Show me their facebook pages.....
Seens any of the Rothchilds on facebook?
Im wiling to bet if a prince etc is on it that his page is run by a company lol

They're all on fb.

Sacksian

Aquarius34 wrote: »

They're all on fb.

Are you?

keelanj69

Aquarius34 wrote: »

They're all on fb.

Names? Links?

Aquarius34

keelanj69 wrote: »

Names? Links?

If you know who to look for, type in their names. Some fake profiles may come up (and do) and some are their real profiles.

I am not naming names. I wouldn't like if someone named my name on a public forum as to who's who on fb. You wouldn't be pleased if some stranger was outing your profile on a public forum without your consent would you? That would possibly breach privacy rules here.

If you want to find out, use fb yourself. There is a search bar provided. Fb has a very powerful search tool now.

spiderman1885

It's no secret that Mark Zuckerburg is a CIA agent and it's no secret that facebook was created as a CIA database network.

That's my favourite line on the internet.


Would be very interested in seeing the proof.

Also, 'erroneous' - see Wedding Crashers.

Aquarius34

spiderman1885 wrote: »

.

Also, 'erroneous' - see Wedding Crashers.

keelanj69

Aquarius34 wrote: »

If you know who to look for, type in their names. Some fake profiles may come up (and do) and some are their real profiles.

I am not naming names. I wouldn't like if someone named my name on a public forum as to who's who on fb. You wouldn't be pleased if some stranger was outing your profile on a public forum without your consent would you? That would possibly breach privacy rules here.

If you want to find out, use fb yourself. There is a search bar provided. Fb has a very powerful search tool now.

but..but..these are the elite. Poisening our children, warping our minds yadda yadda yadda. If you know who these culprits are surely you have a moral obligation to tell us?

You dont owe the elite anything so why keep their identities secret?

Aquarius34

keelanj69 wrote: »

but..but..these are the elite. Poisening our children, warping our minds yadda yadda yadda. If you know who these culprits are surely you have a moral obligation to tell us?

You dont owe the elite anything so why keep their identities secret?

I've told you what you must do, if you want to find them, if you can't do that you're not interested to do so. Don't play stupid games with me. I'm not keeping their identity secret. You have the tools now, use them. Stop relying on others to the dirty work for you.

hooradiation

Aquarius34 wrote: »

I've told you what you must do, if you want to find them, if you can't do that you're not interested to do so. Don't play stupid games with me. I'm not keeping their identity secret. You have the tools now, use them. Stop relying on others to the dirty work for you.

Burden of proof, this is a thing.

Aquarius34

hooradiation wrote: »

Burden of proof, this is a thing.

No it isn't on me, it's on you. If you want to find something, it's upon you to do so. I've given tips to help you. You're an adult, it's time to act like one. I'm not going to name names and that's the end of it.

Hoop66

Aquarius34 wrote: »

No it isn't on me, it's on you. If you want to find something, it's upon you to do so. I've given tips to help you. You're an adult, it's time to act like one. I'm not going to name names and that's the end of it.

That is not correct. You have stated that:

They're all on fb.

Therefore the burden of proof is on you to prove that they are, indeed, all on there. That's how rational debate works.

Ah...

hooradiation

Aquarius34 wrote: »

No it isn't on me, it's on you.

Wrong.
If you claim this

Aquarius34 wrote: »

Torakx wrote: »

Show me their facebook pages.....
Seens any of the Rothchilds on facebook?
Im wiling to bet if a prince etc is on it that his page is run by a company lol

They're all on fb.

then the burden of proof is on you.

There is no debate to be had here, either do it, or admit you can't.

Aquarius34

hooradiation wrote: »

Wrong.
If you claim this



then the burden of proof is on you.

Elites are on fb.
Politicians are on fb.
Popstars and famous people are on fb.
Joe soap is on fb.
Mary Rice is on fb even.
People from Eastenders are on fb. I don't watch Eastenders, but there you go.
Quite a large percentage of the world's population is now on fb too.

If you want to find "certain" people in particular that is not my position or responsibility. You can twist and snide this argument all you like, I've told you what you must do if you want to find them. Fb has a search tool provided. Members of the eltie are out in the public eye and it's not going to be difficult for you to type in their name on fb and do some research.

If you can't do that, it's obvious you're not interested to find out who they are.

There is no debate to be had here, either do it, or admit you can't.

This is a debate about fb, its not about outing profiles of people on a public forum.

If you're so eager to discuss this particular issue, then why don't go on fb and use that time for research? Bet you can't...

Hoop66

Aquarius34 wrote: »

Elites are on fb.
Politicians are on fb.
Popstars and famous people are on fb.
Joe soap is on fb.
Mary Rice is on fb even.
People from Eastenders are on fb. I don't watch Eastenders, but there you go.
Quite a large percentage of the world's population is now on fb too.

If you want to find "certain" people in particular that is not my position or responsibility. You can twist and snide this argument all you like, I've told you what you must do if you want to find them. Fb has a search tool provided. Members of the eltie are out in the public eye and it's not going to be difficult for you to type in their name on fb and do some research.

If you can't do that, it's obvious you're not interested to find out who they are.

There is no debate to be had here, either do it, or admit you can't.[/QUOou TE]

This is a debate about fb, its not about outing profiles of people on a public forum.

If you're so eager to discuss this particular issue, then why don't go on fb and use that time for research? Bet you can't...

No.

Everyone is aware that TV stars/politicians/sports stars are on fb, this is common knowledge and it would be very easy to find their profiles.

You specifically stated that "the elites" are all on fb. So, instead of muddying the waters and avoiding the issue as usual, please provide concrete evidence that "the elites" are on fb and that

Aquarius34 wrote: »

the elite are very comfortable using this site, because they are automatically protected by the law and CIA

Or, admit that you can't provide the evidence and that your opinion that "the elites" are all on fb and they are protected by the CIA is just that, an opinion. An unsupported and, frankly, ridiculous opinion

keelanj69

Aquarius34 wrote: »

I've told you what you must do, if you want to find them, if you can't do that you're not interested to do so. Don't play stupid games with me. I'm not keeping their identity secret. You have the tools now, use them. Stop relying on others to the dirty work for you.

Just a FB search so?

No need to find names that are anagrams of evil corporations or groups?

Honestly, if you could only prove one of your stories and not ask others to prove it for you.

Aquarius34

keelanj69 wrote: »

Just a FB search so?

No need to find names that are anagrams of evil corporations or groups?

Honestly, if you could only prove one of your stories and not ask others to prove it for you.

So what are you trying to say elites are not allowed to have fb profiles? Are you trying to tell me that you don't want to look for them or are you trying to say that it's not possible for them to have fb profiles. Do explain.

Aquarius34

Hoop66 wrote: »

No.

Everyone is aware that TV stars/politicians/sports stars are on fb, this is common knowledge and it would be very easy to find their profiles.

So what's the problem then?

You specifically stated that "the elites" are all on fb. So, instead of muddying the waters and avoiding the issue as usual,you please provide concrete evidence that "the elites" are on fb and that

I told you what to do. You are starting to harass me and that's not a good sign on your position. Which tells me you're not interested to find out yourself. I can see your agenda loud and clear.

Or, admit that you can't provide the evidence and that your opinion that "the elites" are all on fb and they are protected by the CIA is just that, an opinion. An unsupported and, frankly, ridiculous opinion

Get over yourself dude, seriously.

Hoop66

Aquarius34 wrote: »

So what's the problem then?



I told you what to do. You are starting to harass me and that's not a good sign on your position. Which tells me you're not interested to find out yourself. I can see your agenda loud and clear.



Get over yourself dude, seriously.

It doesn't matter whether I am interested to find out or not. You made the claim, now you need to provide evidence to back it up.

This is not harrassment, this is rational debate. Make a claim, provide evidence to back it up; that's how it works. Answer questions put to you or admit that you can't.

So, that's a no then? You can't provide evidence for the claims that you made?