riello burner in grant boiler replace or fix?

Billy Bunting

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Thanks all.

rustyjack

thanks everyone. It was the photocell..will get one and install tomorrow.

i think my tech is a plumber with little understanding of the electrical side of things. he was recommended to me by my plumber.

if someone could give me a recommendation of a good oil technician in cork city area, i would very much appreciate it.

thanks all,
rusty

shane0007

rustyjack wrote: »

thanks everyone. It was the photocell..will get one and install tomorrow.

i think my tech is a plumber with little understanding of the electrical side of things. he was recommended to me by my plumber.

if someone could give me a recommendation of a good oil technician in cork city area, i would very much appreciate it.

thanks all,
rusty

He would have looked a right twat standing there after replacing the motor & control box with the boiler still running without firing!

agusta

rustyjack wrote: »

thanks everyone for your replies.
got a boiler technician out and he says it is the control box but has not ruled out the motor. He changed the solenoid and photocell and still did not fire.
He said the oil pump is working.

as it is 10 years old, he suggests to change the burner (300euros) versus changing the control box/motor (100euros) as it is more likely to have future problems as it is an old burner. All the major parts are 100 euros (oil pump, motor, control box) and cost of replacing them aswell.
I can see his point.. if i get 10 years out of the new burner like the old one, i will be doing well.

any thoughts?

thanks,

The boiler tech did change the photocell!!!,Does this mean the new photocell that was fitted is faulty?

shane0007

rustyjack wrote: »

I saw him change the solenoid but not change the photocell as i was away from the burner taking a call.

Perhaps he changed it & the new one was faulty or indeed he did not have a new one & only said he changed it, guessing it was not the photocell.
It seems odd a service person does not carry all the spares for oil burners. It is not like gas where there are thousands of varying makes & models all taking different parts.
For that symptom, it is very easy to narrow down the cause.

rustyjack

spoke to him today..looks like he just cleaned it and did not replace it!!!
oh well....

we live and learn!!
Rusty

shane0007

rustyjack wrote: »

spoke to him today..looks like he just cleaned it and did not replace it!!!
oh well....

we live and learn!!
Rusty

Wouldn't it be wonderful if the oil industry was regulated with accountability?
Thanks for the update. It means a lot to get feedback.

Irish Steve

shane0007 wrote: »

Wouldn't it be wonderful if the oil industry was regulated with accountability?
Thanks for the update. It means a lot to get feedback.

What would be even better would be if all of the "dangerous" industries were properly regulated in a way that didn't discourage or prevent people from registering in the first place, which means a much more rigorous and accountable inspection system.

Yes, there needs to be a certain entry level, but after that, performance is all, and if a customer felt for any reason a job wasn't done correctly, and could get an inspector out to review what had been done, and that then put the contractor at risk of being either suspended or removed, a lot of the bad work practises that have been seen over the last few years would disappear very rapidly.

In this case, the first person looking at that burner should have got at least a yellow card, to take a football analagy.

The concept of threatening a householder with massive fines or worse for doing the work or using an unregistered contractor is not the answer, the better solution is to make it possible for the householder to get an effective redress if it is found that the work is substandard, as long as there is some form of sanction against vexatious complaints.

The same scenario should be available to a registered contractor, if a REC goes to a job, and finds substandard work, the REC should be able to report that work, which would be inspected, and if indeed it is substandard, the regulatory body should then be able to find out who did the work, and take appropriate action. The REC that finds the bad work may not even know who did the previous work.

I'm not talking about suspending or removing someone for forgetting to fit a piece of earth sleeving in a socket, or (as this is really the plumbing section) not correctly balancing a heating system, but there are cases where some failures do deserve sanction. It may well be that the sanction would be a partial refund to the houseowner for the faulty work, that's not my call, but it has to be better than the shambles that's there now.

The plumber is probably in the worst position of the lot, in that in some cases, plumbing can then involve electrics, especially on complex heating systems, and also involve gas, or oil, and if you have to be REC, RGI and whatever the oil industry standard is now, and then when it comes LPG as well, the cost of being registered and complying, and all the rest of it is going to be astronomic. and the householder doesn't understand when they get a bill of €50 for fitting a tap washer, or a sink waste O ring, the problem being that the cost of being compliant is becoming obscene for many trades, and it has to be recovered somehow.

I'm not going to hold my breath, I suspect it will get worse before it gets better, some of the suggestions being made for the future are just crazy, and more worryingly, unenforceable. That's not the way to go.

shane0007

Irish Steve wrote: »

What would ......

I think I agree. I dunno, you lost me at What......!
Steve, I know you mean well but you should try reading back over your posts, just to see if you could finish reading one.
They don't have to be essays to make your point. And I hate having my posts pushed onto the next page!

TPM

shane0007 wrote: »

Wouldn't it be wonderful if the oil industry was regulated with accountability?

I totally agree, the way it is at the moment with Oftec not really carrying any weight in this country and everything basically being left to the integrity of the person carrying out the work. but lets not get into that one here

shane0007 wrote: »

Thanks for the update. It means a lot to get feedback.

yea its always great to see how it ends up and to finish up the thread, I hate reading through threads that just stop and you never know if any of the advice helped or not

rustyjack

Burner working fine now - thanks everyone for your interest and for all your help.
Rusty