Most reliable car available to the Irish market?

Grahamb23

In your opinion what is the most reliable car available to the Irish customer??

Sobanek

Opel

skoda octavia

dar83

One that's serviced on time and taken well care of.


Too obvious?

Mycroft H

All new cars are much of a muchness. In general there is no such thing as the brand/model to avoid any more imo (new).

Though if I was to pick something second hand capable of intergalactic mileages? E91 Starlet/E100 Corolla. Anything with an XUD diesel.

Sobanek

Opel

The second hand market, well:
Straight-Six BMWs with M50 engines (E34 525i etc.) - seen a couple of those with 500k kms on them
Non-turbo Diesel Mercs - W124 200d - capable of doing over a million kilometres.

cardwizzard

Ford

No FIAT option OP??:D:pac::P

MuppetCheck

Carina E

Thatnastyboy

You're the "in the trade" you tell us :pac:



toyota carina II is the most reliable imho,







buy mine

M cebee

no honda or suzuki option?

Alanstrainor

Surely there will be bags of shite under every marque?

Mycroft H

Alanstrainor wrote: »

Surely there will be bags of shite under every marque?

I can think of a dud from almost every manufacture in that list. Except Citroen. They're brilliant. :pac:

Tea 1000

Hyundai

Honda, no question.
It's not even on the poll though.
I agree, Suzuki should be there, and Subaru, and despite the laughter Fiat deserves it's place above many others on that list.

Sobanek

Opel

http://www.anusedcar.com/

M cebee

mitsubishi as well?

Oafley Jones

Of that list I'd pick mazda. Off It Lexus.

Grahamb23

Ford

Sorry If I didn't put up all makes on the poll but if you think another car is more reliable than any of the listed please put it down.

Thanks

dgt

Anything diesel with an indirect setup (that doesn't have a Lucas CAV pump)

randy hickey

Ford

+100 for Honda.:D:D

ba_barabus

Volvo

Grahamb23 wrote: »

In your opinion what is the most reliable car available to the Irish customer??

A used UK car with a full service history

megafan

Ford

Toyota.... & maybe it's because when they find a fault for the most part they'll recall & replace... A lot of other makes go into denial mode....

Stallingrad

Kind of pointless thread...give me facts anyday.

Opinion = subjective
Reliability = not subjective

biko

Ford

Old school Volvo.
Made from tank parts, cannae kill them.

Sobanek

Opel

According to the TUV report, the most reliable car available to the Irish market is the Porsche 911.

monkeypants

Hyundai

I thought that Mazda had made top of some list or other for this.

As others have asked, is the question relating to car serviced at the recommended intervals and given the occasional wash or ones that are driven into the ground by the majority of owners?

R.O.R

Honda

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JohnBoy26

Skoda

R.O.R wrote: »

Honda

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For older late 90's Hondas maybe. Newer hondas are only ok.

Tea 1000

Hyundai

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

For older late 90's Hondas maybe. Newer hondas are only ok.

Newer Honda's are more than OK. They're typically better than everything else. Toyota have actually more issues and flaws in more of their cars in the last 10 years than Honda. Honda in the 90's were 100%, but while that might have dropped to 90% now a days, it's still leading the pack.

R.O.R

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

For older late 90's Hondas maybe. Newer hondas are only ok.

Really?

Based on a pool of how many vehicles?

nct tester

honda . lexus, toyota in general reliable. in general unreliable germans and frenchies

MugMugs

Kia

R.O.R wrote: »

Based on a pool of how many vehicles?

This poll is hardly accurate but I'd say on the basis of multiple tyres kicked and on top of what Joe from down the road said about his 09 Accord.

doopa

Volvo

Here are the results from the MOT in England and Wales.

http://data.gov.uk/dataset/anonymised_mot_test

Which get collated and analysed elsewhere:

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/news/parts-and-accessories/2012-05/the-mot-files---the-full-story/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/opensecrets/2010/01/mot_failure_rates_released.html

Ford

As said already starlet ep91, in fact any toyota with a 4efe engine they are absolutely bullet proof once kept serviced and topped up with oil. I have a TDI leon at the moment with an agr engine, 230k miles and not a bother on it

mitosis

Other?

Stallingrad

doopa wrote: »

Here are the results from the MOT in England and Wales.

http://data.gov.uk/dataset/anonymised_mot_test

Which get collated and analysed elsewhere:

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/news/parts-and-accessories/2012-05/the-mot-files---the-full-story/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/opensecrets/2010/01/mot_failure_rates_released.html

Great stuff, I could browse that data all day. As a Passat owner this caught my eye:

1.2% fail on Brakes (56% better than other 2008 cars)
0.027% fail on Hand operated control valves (28 times worse than other 2008 cars)
0.027% fail on Operation (46 times worse than other 2008 cars)

No idea what it means but sounds bad!

Technoprisoner

this thread is a bit pointless...every car has its pitfalls. everyone is voting toyota at the moment....well years back i would have agreed....but some of those avensis where absolute balls!!!

Tea 1000

Hyundai

Technoprisoner wrote: »

this thread is a bit pointless...every car has its pitfalls. everyone is voting toyota at the moment....well years back i would have agreed....but some of those avensis where absolute balls!!!

Any reliability thread with no Honda option is pointless!

JohnBoy26

Skoda

MugMugs wrote: »

This poll is hardly accurate but I'd say on the basis of multiple tyres kicked and on top of what Joe from down the road said about his 09 Accord.

An 09 Accord is actually a fine car.. maybe you should stop listening to what "joe down the road" is telling you about his Accord

The previous generation diesel accord wasn't all that reliable though by honda standards and neither where the ep civics.

irish bloke

Mazda

Sobanek wrote: »

According to the TUV report, the most reliable car available to the Irish market is the Porsche 911.

Probably coz if you can afford one of these you can afford to bring them to a main dealer every 6 months.

galwaytt

Sobanek wrote: »

According to the TUV report, the most reliable car available to the Irish market is the Porsche 911.

Lol.........you should try asking Porsche owners and mention the words 'RMS' and 'cylinder wear' on them...............lots of 911's spend lots of times in the garage, and not for small stuff,either.............

Gael23

Mazda

Skoda,Audi and VW for me,since they are all part of the VAG Group.

Tea 1000

Hyundai

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

The previous generation diesel accord wasn't all that reliable though by honda standards and neither where the ep civics.

Incorrect, the previous generation Accord diesel is one of the most reliable diesels of the modern era. A handful of problems with the exhaust manifold was covered out of warranty by Honda. Any other problems would be the same as any other car, probably down to the way it was looked after or injectors from washed diesel, or just one-off's that every make and model in the world has.
Just because it wasn't as reliable as some 90's Honda petrols doesn't mean it's an unreliable diesel.

ryanf1 wrote: »

Skoda,Audi and VW for me,since they are all part of the VAG Group.

They're all equally only average for reliability. Audi less so because typically there's more in them to go wrong.

bridgepeople

Stallingrad wrote: »

Kind of pointless thread...give me facts anyday.

Opinion = subjective
Reliability = not subjective

I think it's interesting to see people's perceptions. Around 20% of those polled at the moment have picked a VW group brand as the most reliable. Fiat was left off the list and a few people have joked about their reliability. Yet if you look at the latest whatcar reliability survey, Fiat does better than all VAG brands.

The Whatcar top 10 is dominated by the Asian manufacturers, yet about half the responses to this poll have been for US and EU makes. I would wager a lot of people buy their next car based on their perceptions rather than cold hard facts.

langdang

ryanf1 wrote: »

Skoda,Audi and VW for me,since they are all part of the VAG Group.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM72WsoqVgk&t=1m41s

waaahaahaaa

JohnBoy26

Skoda

Tea 1000 wrote: »

Incorrect, the previous generation Accord diesel is one of the most reliable diesels of the modern era. A handful of problems with the exhaust manifold was covered out of warranty by Honda. Any other problems would be the same as any other car, probably down to the way it was looked after or injectors from washed diesel, or just one-off's that every make and model in the world has.
Just because it wasn't as reliable as some 90's Honda petrols doesn't mean it's an unreliable diesel.

They're all equally only average for reliability. Audi less so because typically there's more in them to go wrong.

I never said they weren't reliable. What I said was by honda standards they aren't. On top of what you listed timing chains and steering racks can also give trouble in them.

The vags you call average for reliability have a more reliable (in 1.9tdi form) engine than the diesel engine in the accord.

Tea 1000

Hyundai

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

I never said they weren't reliable. What I said was by honda standards they aren't. On top of what you listed timing chains and steering racks can also give trouble in them.

The vags you call average for reliability have a more reliable (in 1.9tdi form) engine than the diesel engine in the accord.

The 1.9 TDi is about on par for reliability, maybe slightly ahead, but way, way behind in every other respect. It's an old out-dated engine. And it's only 1 engine in the VAG. That doesn't account for all the crap engines and auto and manual boxes, and electrics, and general blowing bulbs to beat the band - you'd have a fair collection of €60 fines in a VAG car before VW decided that they had better go for LED clusters at the rear...

piston

Renault

Renault have more votes than both BMW and Audi:pac:

rocky

Peugeot

piston wrote: »

Renault have more votes than both BMW and Audi:pac:

People are confusing the poll question with "What car do you drive, ain't it great ?"

cruiser178

Ford

2.0 TD Toyota Avensis gets my vote all day long

bodonnell

I am on my fourth Subaru, can't fault them

irish bloke

Mazda

ryanf1 wrote: »

Skoda,Audi and VW for me,since they are all part of the VAG Group.

Audi and VW in my house, Audi gave loads of trouble and very little out of the VW.
All in all though I would never by anything other then German coz when they are running they are a pleasure to drive and they just don't squeak or rattle regardless of age, savage build quality.

JohnBoy26

Skoda

Tea 1000 wrote: »

The 1.9 TDi is about on par for reliability, maybe slightly ahead, but way, way behind in every other respect. It's an old out-dated engine. And it's only 1 engine in the VAG. That doesn't account for all the crap engines and auto and manual boxes, and electrics, and general blowing bulbs to beat the band - you'd have a fair collection of €60 fines in a VAG car before VW decided that they had better go for LED clusters at the rear...

No a 1.9tdi is far more reliable imo and apart from it being out dated it's still one of if not the most reliable diesels out there. Now don't get me wrong im a big Honda fan and Im generally not a fan of vag stuff, but id still choose the 1.9 Tdi any day over the 2.2cdti honda engine.