Palestinian child in gun crosshair photo

Praetorian Saighdiuir

7 7 12 wrote: »

You can roll your eyes all you want but there are strict conditions defining what a state or country actually is and Palestine does not currently meet all of them. Too lazy to source info but a quick google should sort you out

Jesus man, he was just referencing the article. Maybe reporters should look for passports before they run a story.

It is immaterial to the thread. Its still a soldier taking a photo of the back of a kids head......deplorable irregarless of nationality.

BASHIR

7 7 12 wrote: »

You can roll your eyes all you want but there are strict conditions defining what a state or country actually is and Palestine does not currently meet all of them. Too lazy to source info but a quick google should sort you out

Fine then child then. Doesn't matter what or where they are from. its a scummy thing to do, do you agree with that?

7 7 12

BASHIR wrote: »

Fine then child then. Doesn't matter what or where they are from. its a scummy thing to do, do you agree with that?

Yes, why are people bringing the Palestine situation into it. Cross hair on an Irish child would be just as deplorable

Crooked Jack

I wonder what unspeakable horror israel will have to eventually inflict on palestine for people to stop defending it. gas chambers is my guess.

hatrickpatrick

7 7 12 wrote: »

Yes, why are people bringing the Palestine situation into it. Cross hair on an Irish child would be just as deplorable

Doesn't have to be a kid even, IMO. Glorifying this kind of image is sending the message that you think it's cool to target people and kill them, and anyone with that attitude is too dangerous to be allowed into the military.

Praetorian Saighdiuir

7 7 12 wrote: »

Yes, why are people bringing the Palestine situation into it. Cross hair on an Irish child would be just as deplorable

Did you read the article or even the snippet in the opening post?

Busted Flat.

7 7 12 wrote: »

There's no such thing as a Palestinian child, he's either Israeli, Egyptian or Jordanian. Show some respect ffs

Get a life. You have not yet come to terms of world opinion of the pariah state.
Hitler thought he was invincible. Remember the story of the big wheel, it keeps turning, my DA said that to me 50 years ago. Do evil to one, it will come back to haunt you or your siblings.

hatrickpatrick

Crooked Jack wrote: »

I wonder what unspeakable horror israel will have to eventually inflict on palestine for people to stop defending it. gas chambers is my guess.

People would still defend them as "the only democracy in the Middle East" :rolleyes:

stoneill

I prefer these Israeli army pics:

https://www.google.ie/search?q=women+in+israeli+army&hl=en&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=XcYiUYDRIYiIhQfQ34HwCw&sqi=2&ved=0CFEQsAQ&biw=1280&bih=939

lapsed

Our culture and their culture are two different things. An Arab child is regarded as an adult at 12 years old and Israelis deal with that reality. But this is probably just macho stuff which you'll find in almost every army in the world.

Fox_In_Socks

Nino Brown wrote: »

Social media Is hilarious, kids get shot all over the world everyday, and most people don't give a toss because they're too busy in their own little worlds. But put a picture of a gun pointing at kid on social media and watch people get their backs up for 24hrs or so.

People are stupid.

And yes, I include myself in that statement.;)

Son Of A Vidic

Maybe this is progress after all, so I'll settle for the IDF taking photographs of palestinian civilians. As opposed to their usual practice of blowing them away.

Busted Flat.

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

People would still defend them as "the only democracy in the Middle East" :rolleyes:

Democracy, what age are you. Check out democracy in the pariah state. South Africa under apartheid was more democratic than that little evil statlet.

lapsed

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

People would still defend them as "the only democracy in the Middle East" :rolleyes:

Maybe they should try the Syrian model. Rolls eyes. Or the Lebanese model where they can't move from one neighbourhood to the next without running through a sniper alley. Or the Saudi Arabian one. Rolls eyes.

Busted Flat.

Israeli democracy the only place it exists in the mid east.https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQZuOK1mr-SfvQlUr6zPR5aGL0DUr9OmadZ8J56iSls9DxsgxLO
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https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR3vbBDgBz99UvdIi0bPcAyXSt9BUJ8x-V0w9t2vuXRZwf3gg_g4Q
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Be proud be an Israeli, we can slaughter where we like.

Nodin

7 7 12 wrote: »

You can roll your eyes all you want but there are strict conditions defining what a state or country actually is and Palestine does not currently meet all of them. Too lazy to source info but a quick google should sort you out

Theres no Kurdish state either, yet funny enough....

hatrickpatrick

Busted Flat. wrote: »

Democracy, what age are you. Check out democracy in the pariah state. South Africa under apartheid was more democratic than that little evil statlet.

It was sarcasm. There's nothing remotely democratic about Israel in my view.

lapsed wrote: »

Maybe they should try the Syrian model. Rolls eyes. Or the Lebanese model where they can't move from one neighbourhood to the next without running through a sniper alley. Or the Saudi Arabian one. Rolls eyes.

Ah, this argument again - excusing crimes committed by one party because you can cite examples of other parties who have committed worse crimes.
I guess if I'm ever on trial for murder I can get an acquittal by pointing out that I only killed one person while there are countless examples throughout history of people who killed more than one at a time, ergo I'm excused? :pac:

lapsed

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

It was sarcasm. There's nothing remotely democratic about Israel in my view.



Ah, this argument again - excusing crimes committed by one party because you can cite examples of other parties who have committed worse crimes.
I guess if I'm ever on trial for murder I can get an acquittal by pointing out that I only killed one person while there are countless examples throughout history of people who killed more than one at a time, ergo I'm excused? :pac:

It wasn't " crimes " that was being noted...it was whether or not Israel is a democracy....which it obviously is as they've just had elections; elections which didn't drive the government further to the right as all the anti-Israel pundits forecast. There's a nasty Irish ambivalence towards terrorism , preferring to call it " resistance " which was in play for the past 30 or 40 years at home and which is extrapolated to the Middle East. Easy solution; the Palestinians exchange politics for violence and there'll be no dead or targeted children.

seven_eleven

So far I have seen this picture being labelled as being from Syria, and Israel.

Fúck off with this bullshít propaganda and link a valid source. Sickening how everybody immediately jumps on the Israel hating bandwagon.

intellectual dosser

I'm not Israel's biggest fan but I think people should let this go. Uploading the photo to a personal account in in bad taste, but you cannot hold Israel to blame.

Crooked Jack

lapsed wrote: »

It wasn't " crimes " that was being noted...it was whether or not Israel is a democracy....which it obviously is as they've just had elections; elections which didn't drive the government further to the right as all the anti-Israel pundits forecast. There's a nasty Irish ambivalence towards terrorism , preferring to call it " resistance " which was in play for the past 30 or 40 years at home and which is extrapolated to the Middle East. Easy solution; the Palestinians exchange politics for violence and there'll be no dead or targeted children.

"Palestinians; stop defending yourselves and we'll stop shooting your children."
Israeli democracy in action.

AeoNGriM

What's the big deal? Palestinians have used children as suicide bombers before. Knowing that, I'd be keeping a close eye on everyone if I was there.

Also, the Israel v Palestine political minefield is off topic and doesn't belong in the thread, ah heyor, leave ih bleedin ou!

Nodin

lapsed wrote: »

It wasn't " crimes " that was being noted...it was whether or not Israel is a democracy....which it obviously is as they've just had elections; elections which didn't drive the government further to the right as all the anti-Israel pundits forecast. There's a nasty Irish ambivalence towards terrorism , preferring to call it " resistance " which was in play for the past 30 or 40 years at home and which is extrapolated to the Middle East. Easy solution; the Palestinians exchange politics for violence and there'll be no dead or targeted children.

You realise that the US has blocked the political path?

That the West Bank is occupied, yet none of its population have voting rights in Israeli elections, yet Israeli colonists there have?

Herb Powell

7 7 12 wrote: »

Yes, why are people bringing the Palestine situation into it. Cross hair on an Irish child would be just as deplorable

You can not seriously be that clueless? It is highly relevant.

youtheman

hedzball wrote: »

Looks like a miss to me...







'hdz

Have ye not hear of the term 'aiming off for wind'

Nodin

intellectual dosser wrote: »

I'm not Israel's biggest fan but I think people should let this go. Uploading the photo to a personal account in in bad taste, but you cannot hold Israel to blame.

A bit of context might help.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/oct/06/israel
http://newsmine.org/content.php?ol=war-on-terror/israel/hostilities/2005/05-jan-may/israeli-fire-kills-10-year-old-palestinian-girl.txt
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/apr/11/israel

There's a lot more, of course.

brimal

A 20 year old IDF soldier, basically still a kid himself, who took a photo in bad taste, a photo in which we know no context, and posted it to Instagram for the laugh and to look like 'the man' to his mates.

Yes it was completely stupid, but this over the top faux outrage is also fairly stupid.

Nodin

brimal wrote: »

A 20 year old IDF soldier, basically still a kid himself, who took a photo in bad taste, a photo in which we know no context, and posted it to Instagram for the laugh and to look like 'the man' to his mates.

Yes it was completely stupid, but this over the top faux outrage is also fairly stupid.

.....not in the context of the IDF, no.

CruelCoin

Michael Weston wrote: »

Looks like he is gonna miss though..

Depends.

For a picture like this i doubt he would have adjusted the scope for bullet drop, so likely the kid would be hit in the shoulder.

Also, whats the big ****ing deal?

arybvtcw0eolkf

Just a fecking idiot and as we can see from the report its clearly not IDF policy.

I'm sure there's hardly an army anywhere in the world without an idiot who'd do something just as thick.

Idiots be everywhere