Reasons to be positive in Waterford?

BBM77

fiachr_a wrote: »

True, but what's the point in trying to have a local university when these jobs are all that's available?

First of all that is not all the jobs that are available locally. Secondly jobs that require a third level qualification are not an option to everybody for various reasons. What are you saying jobs should not be created for people who don’t have a third level qualification?

BBM77

fricatus wrote: »

They're not necessarily low-skilled jobs either of course. The term "call-centre job" means about as little as "factory job" does. In a factory you could be putting widgets in a box all day, or programming and calibrating the machine that makes the widgets - there's the same sort of variation within and between call centres.

Absolutely; I just find this attitude bizarre. This attitude that certain jobs are beneath us has done damage in the past. One of the reasons that the city centre lags behind the standard of retail that a city the size of Waterford can achieve is that city councils of the past did not see retail jobs as “proper” jobs and not worth going after. Consequently one of the reasons that Waterford has a higher unemployment rate (even during the boom) is that the proportion of service industry jobs available in Waterford is lower compared to the other cities who developed their retail sector.

fricatus

BBM77 wrote: »

Absolutely; I just find this attitude bizarre. This attitude that certain jobs are beneath us has done damage in the past. One of the reasons that the city centre lags behind the standard of retail that a city the size of Waterford can achieve is that city councils of the past did not see retail jobs as “proper” jobs and not worth going after. Consequently one of the reasons that Waterford has a higher unemployment rate (even during the boom) is that the proportion of service industry jobs available in Waterford is lower compared to the other cities who developed their retail sector.

Yeah, I've very often found this attitude among Waterford people, I'm sorry to say. Unless it's a job in a factory provided by the IDA, then it's not a real job, and all the call centres and shopping centres in the world are beneath that ideal.

I wonder if it has something to do with the old-school union mentality: in a factory you can see the means of production and if necessary, seize it off the greedy bosses. It's a lot harder to do when you've just got a PC and a headset, or a till and a stockroom.

One thing's for sure though: someone who takes up a job in a call centre and uses it as a springboard for internal promotion or else to gain experience and move on somewhere else will be way better off in five years' time than some purist who sits on the dole, hoping for the day when the IDA builds a big factory and gets some American or German firm in like they used to do in the '70s and '80s.

Max Powers

To get back onto positivity since that is what this thread is for:

Peacocks shop opening thursday in old a-wear building
Iceland opening opening December,

Taken from this weeks munster express

fiachr_a

fricatus wrote: »

One thing's for sure though: someone who takes up a job in a call centre and uses it as a springboard for internal promotion or else to gain experience and move on somewhere else will be way better off in five years' time than some purist who sits on the dole

Waterford must be some blackspot if everyone's celebrating the opening of another call centre? Those people would have better job prospects working in Supermacs.

SteelyDanJalapeno

fiachr_a wrote: »

Waterford must be some blackspot if everyone's celebrating the opening of another call centre? Those people would have better job prospects working in Supermacs.

This x100000

7upfree

fricatus wrote: »

Yeah, I've very often found this attitude among Waterford people, I'm sorry to say. Unless it's a job in a factory provided by the IDA, then it's not a real job, and all the call centres and shopping centres in the world are beneath that ideal.

I wonder if it has something to do with the old-school union mentality: in a factory you can see the means of production and if necessary, seize it off the greedy bosses. It's a lot harder to do when you've just got a PC and a headset, or a till and a stockroom.

One thing's for sure though: someone who takes up a job in a call centre and uses it as a springboard for internal promotion or else to gain experience and move on somewhere else will be way better off in five years' time than some purist who sits on the dole, hoping for the day when the IDA builds a big factory and gets some American or German firm in like they used to do in the '70s and '80s.

Manufacturing is in decline. Across Europe. The vultures who picked over the bones of Ireland have moved onto greener pastures. The future is call centres. IT, Pharma, and services. I hate seeing Waterford people castigated though. They are no worse than anywhere else.

Positives? Regina opening again. Park Inn open again.

Whywhywhy85

TiltedBrain wrote: »

This x100000

Plenty of the jobs are paying well in excess of 30k and some 40k. Not to be sniffed at.

fricatus

fiachr_a wrote: »

Waterford must be some blackspot if everyone's celebrating the opening of another call centre?

Yeah, Waterford is a blackspot for unemployment. We know this well, so why not celebrate every step we take away from that?

fiachr_a wrote: »

Those people would have better job prospects working in Supermacs.

Would they now? Really? Have you actually thought about what you're saying?

7upfree wrote: »

I hate seeing Waterford people castigated though. They are no worse than anywhere else.

Yeah, sorry, I didn't mean to tar all my fellow Déise people with the same brush. However there is a cohort out there with the attitude I referred to.

These jobs are well worth celebrating lads... it's a hundred more people employed, and with more money in their pockets than the dole, it will provide support for local pubs, shops, restaurants, etc. Some of those people will even gain valuable experience that they'll take elsewhere with them, or may work their way up into more valuable positions within this company.

Good luck to them, and I hope they have a good experience setting up in Waterford. With a bit of luck, they'll employ many more than the initial hundred in a few years' time!

mufcboy1999

Until a university comes the most positive thing in waterford are the roads out of it. Another minimum wage call centre , wow we should be so greatfull hopefully it's not run anything like that concentration camp eishtec.

Waterford is really just being given the sh*t at the end of the stick, dont be brainwashed into thinking we should be happy and great full for another call centre, we're quick becoming the land of call centres.

Max Powers

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

Until a university comes the most positive thing in waterford are the roads out of it. Another minimum wage call centre , wow we should be so greatfull hopefully it's not run anything like that concentration camp eishtec.

Waterford is really just being given the sh*t at the end of the stick, dont be brainwashed into thinking we should be happy and great full for another call centre, we're quick becoming the land of call centres.

I find this post absolutely pathetic for a number of reasons and is indicative of the everything is rubbish attitude of some joe duffy caller types...its all crap, its not my fault and im not going to do anything about it.

fiachr_a

The best way Waterford City can make a comeback is to bring back the docks on the quays. No new university that will automatically sit outside the Top 500 world rankings can revitalise the region. Our crap feminised secondary school system has been churning out dumbed-down students for the past decade so they're no use for IT companies. The days of mass factory work in the South East are gone. A call centre will do nothing beneficial in the long term, jobs for the uneducated. Might as well have another minimum-wage chicken plant.

Shane07

Waterford needs to become the Shopping Capital of the region again! With a smaller version of the Newgate Centre planned this will change the whole city centre and make it vibrant! The North Quays site should be focused on the development of high rise office accomadation,Hotel and apartments like a mini Dublin Docklands with a landmark building! When the recovery reaches all the country Waterford needs to be ready to go!

spankmemunkey

fiachr_a wrote: »

The best way Waterford City can make a comeback is to bring back the docks on the quays. No new university that will automatically sit outside the Top 500 world rankings can revitalise the region. Our crap feminised secondary school system has been churning out dumbed-down students for the past decade so they're no use for IT companies. The days of mass factory work in the South East are gone. A call centre will do nothing beneficial in the long term, jobs for the uneducated. Might as well have another minimum-wage chicken plant.

I agree but on another note aren't we suppose to be getting a huge pharma company coming?

7upfree

Full University status. Everything else will follow. History shows us this.

mufcboy1999

Max Powers wrote: »

I find this post absolutely pathetic for a number of reasons and is indicative of the everything is rubbish attitude of some joe duffy caller types...its all crap, its not my fault and im not going to do anything about it.

All hail max and adopt his sheep like opinion and be grateful for minimum wage careers.

Grow a pair.

Chip Whitley

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

All hail max and adopt his sheep like opinion and be grateful for minimum wage careers.

Grow a pair.

What does grow a pair mean? Are you saying he should stand up to these awful people and their job-creating schemes?

What are you doing yourself about the situation? Max Powers, from what I can see is always actively promoting the good things in Waterford, it's more than I've seen anyone else do on here, bar a few others like comeraghs and Old Gregg.

I wouldn't like to work in a call centre myself, but what I do know is that I have a degree in my chosen profession, I'm struggling all the time to run my own business in said profession and the couple of my mates who work in call centres have nicer cars than me, have holidays every year/gotten married and have never expressed money worries to me. They are also great examples of people who go in to these places, get their head down, work hard and quickly rose to supervisory positions.

More power to 'em. Better to get working and earning in available positions than waiting for divine intervention from the Government in relation to the University or other job creation.

Max Powers

some laughable comments on here. here is some more of the positive detail on those tech mahindra jobs. Incidently, top man in 3 is from Waterford so local lad done well and supporting his home town. All of us cant be CEOs but supporting ourselves is more important than Uni, motorways, marks and spencer or any other thing we are hoping will happen.
Examiner.com
Three Ireland have announced 74 new jobs in Waterford.

The mobile phone company are partnering Tech Mahindra Ltd, a specialist in digital transformation, consulting and business re-engineering, to open a customer service centre in Waterford, creating the positions.

The new customer service centre will become operational early in 2015 and recruitment is already underway.

Robert Finnegan, CEO of Three Ireland, said: "We have already announced an additional 90 full time positions at the Three Customer Care centre in Limerick, bringing the total employees there to 440.

"These new positions in Waterford will bolster our operations and help us to deliver market-leading support and services to our customers."

Sujit Baksi, Chief Executive, Tech Mahindra Business Services Group, said: "Ireland is an important market and the investment in Waterford holds strategic importance for us."

Tech Mahindra is an Indian-headquartered company and were the winners of a competitive tender process to consolidate the third party contact centre services separately provided to Three and O2 into one Ireland-based provider.

wellboytoo

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

All hail max and adopt his sheep like opinion and be grateful for minimum wage careers.

Grow a pair.

I resisted commenting on your negativity, everyone cant be the boss, there must be grunts some who aspire to be captains with the right attitude, crawl before you walk etc.

Your user name only copper fastens my prejudices, but that is my problem, methinks your silicate receptacle will always be incomplete.

Cabaal

Guys, this thread is about positive stuff in Waterford.

If you want to moan about stuff then this is not the place!

7upfree

Max Powers wrote: »

Tech Mahindra is an Indian-headquartered company and were the winners of a competitive tender process to consolidate the third party contact centre services separately provided to Three and O2 into one Ireland-based provider.

I am a Three customer. The customer support is not great. And based in India.

Their service itself is very good though.

Chip Whitley

Lots of positive vibes about lately! Tis great!

Old Cinema reopening... the Bowling Alley reopening... Michael St. shopping centre news... Iceland finally opening... Winterval... seasonal jobs boost... B&L jobs... the Whiskey Distillery... H&M possibly coming... T&H Doolans hopefully reopening...

anything else?

The Bowling Alley

When am I reopening?

Chip Whitley

The Bowling Alley wrote: »

When am I reopening?

Not sure yet, the website just says 'Coming Soon'. www.activatewaterford.ie

Here's their facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/Activate-Waterford/373355539488761?fref=ts

They were looking for staff recently I think.

Max Powers

Brendão wrote: »

Lots of positive vibes about lately! Tis great!

Old Cinema reopening... the Bowling Alley reopening... Michael St. shopping centre news... Iceland finally opening... Winterval... seasonal jobs boost... B&L jobs... the Whiskey Distillery... H&M possibly coming... T&H Doolans hopefully reopening...

anything else?

In N&S: 2 new restaurants...one at place i forget name accross from old cinema and other in old greenes restaurant...burger/pizza place,looks good. Also, i like the look of that little coffee shop in the archway near georges court, must get coffee next time i pass.

Max Powers

http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/festivals/watch-keith-barry-performs-dangerous-act-with-help-of-hollywood-actor-woody-harrelson-30788567.html


todays indo website has some very good and positive videos in keith barrys stunt and winterval

BBM77

Brendão wrote: »

Lots of positive vibes about lately! Tis great!

Old Cinema reopening... the Bowling Alley reopening... Michael St. shopping centre news... Iceland finally opening... Winterval... seasonal jobs boost... B&L jobs... the Whiskey Distillery... H&M possibly coming... T&H Doolans hopefully reopening...

anything else?

Zara are interested in opening in Waterford according to the N&S.

mooseknunkle

Brendão wrote: »

Lots of positive vibes about lately! Tis great!

Old Cinema reopening... the Bowling Alley reopening... Michael St. shopping centre news... Iceland finally opening... Winterval... seasonal jobs boost... B&L jobs... the Whiskey Distillery... H&M possibly coming... T&H Doolans hopefully reopening...

anything else?

Starbucks are opening in Waterford too according to last weeks muster express

iseegirls

mooseknunkle wrote: »

Starbucks are opening in Waterford too according to last weeks muster express

Really?? Any idea where?

reni10

Is it the Waterford Bowl on the cork road reopening or near Ardkeen?