adey magnacleanse

paddy_joe

just looking for a bit of information onthe adey magna cleanse.Does anyone use them? are they worth the money?. i have a job to flush about 18 radiators. i have the guardian power flushing unit but taught one of these might speed up the process. i can get one for about 400 incl VAT.

thanks for any replies
Pat

Dtp79

paddy_joe wrote: »

just looking for a bit of information onthe adey magna cleanse.Does anyone use them? are they worth the money?. i have a job to flush about 18 radiators. i have the guardian power flushing unit but taught one of these might speed up the process. i can get one for about 400 incl VAT.

thanks for any replies
Pat

Are they the add ons to the flushing unit? If they are I heard there meant to make life alot easier

paddy_joe

you dont need a power flushing unit,the circulating pump is supposed to be enough,but im sure the two could be combined if a system was bad.

Dtp79

paddy_joe wrote: »

you dont need a power flushing unit,the circulating pump is supposed to be enough,but im sure the two could be combined if a system was bad.

Oh I know now. Just using the circ pump isn't meant to be a great job

paddy_joe

yeah was wondering about that,but i already have pump so could combine the 2 then.

Dtp79

paddy_joe wrote: »

yeah was wondering about that,but i already have pump so could combine the 2 then.

I'd imagine you could. I did the cheaper option and mounted a standard magnaclean onto mine with a bypass so I can clean it ouy while the machine works away. But yours would be much better in fairness

shane0007

paddy_joe wrote: »

yeah was wondering about that,but i already have pump so could combine the 2 then.

Combined with a proper power flushing machine, fine but on its own a complete waste of time.

shane0007

paddy_joe wrote: »

just looking for a bit of information onthe adey magna cleanse.Does anyone use them? are they worth the money?. i have a job to flush about 18 radiators. i have the guardian power flushing unit but taught one of these might speed up the process. i can get one for about 400 incl VAT.

thanks for any replies
Pat

For that money I would be investing in the Fernox Powerflushing Filter @ €455 incl vat.

Dtp79

shane0007 wrote: »

For that money I would be investing in the Fernox Powerflushing Filter @ €455 incl vat.

Are they not the same thing?

shane0007

Dtp79 wrote: »

Are they not the same thing?

Not same but similar. I don't know the strength of the Adey magnets but the Fernox is 11,000 gauss.

Dtp79

shane0007 wrote: »

Not same but similar. I don't know the strength of the Adey magnets but the Fernox is 11,000 gauss.

Adey don't say anywhere what strength their magnet is. Hmmmm

shane0007

Dtp79 wrote: »

Adey don't say anywhere what strength their magnet is. Hmmmm

Now you are just sounding like me, hmmmm.....

spireland32

shane0007 wrote: »

but on its own a complete waste of time.

Why do you think that?

spireland32

spireland32 wrote: »

Why do you think that?

Your using a pump that can be sitting in sludge, no point having a flushing system that is only as good as the pump that's in the boiler, that's without taking in to account any blockage or restriction in the heat exchanger.

shane0007

spireland32 wrote: »

Why do you think that?

Power flushing works & ONLY works on the basis of low pressure but with high velocity. You will never achieve high velocity with the system circulator.

The other problem is that most "power flushing machines" if you can call them that only have between 250w & 350w motors. WOT IMO. Compared to the Fernox, it has an 1,100w motor. I powerflushed a hotel this week with no issues whatsoever.

shane0007

Some pics

sullzz

Are you using the powerflow unit Shane

shane0007

Yes, have been for past number of years. Excellent unit. Best on the market IMHO. I have yet to have a system beat me with it. I also use it alongside a thermal image camera. Another invaluable piece of equipment assessing, before, during & after the flush. Pricey though @ €2,600!
JohnnieK picked up his new shiney MkIII today. It was a very proud moment for him.

sullzz

shane0007 wrote: »

JohnnieK picked up his new shiney MkIII today. It was a very proud moment for him.

Lol ! Must be dying for the first flush job to come in .
You get that extra bit of satisfaction with the thermal imaging camera when on a really dirty system , great to show the customer.
Gotta love the amount of s**t you collected on the filters in your pics.

shane0007

That was the 3rd magnet clean out like that with that system. It was one floor of a hotel. Boiler was kaput. We changed it from oil to gas so installed the gas boilers but through a temporary cylinder to act as a buffer. Water in buffer was then pumped through the system to cleanse. Once finished, gas boilers were piped to a low loss header then set up for the different circuits.

spireland32

Ah I see, didnt think the adey used the existing water pump. So your setup shane is a powerflusher with magnets added on. Like having powerflusher and magnaclease together. Nice pics!

paddy_joe

@ shane

is it the fernox power flushing filter you have? ill try find out tomorrow the strenght of the adey magnets. where did you buy your filter from?

thanks for replied

paddy_joe

@ shane

is it the fernox power flushing filter you have? ill try find out tomorrow the strenght of the adey magnets. where did you buy your filter from?

thanks for replies

shane0007

spireland32 wrote: »

Ah I see, didnt think the adey used the existing water pump. So your setup shane is a powerflusher with magnets added on. Like having powerflusher and magnaclease together. Nice pics!

Yes I use the Fernox Powerflow in conjunction with their magnet.
http://www.fernox.com/files/Fernox/Content/PDF/English/Powerflushing%20Filter.pdf
I used to use the Flush Buddy but makes hard work of a dirty system. Never looked back when I upgraded to the Flushing Filter.

shane0007

paddy_joe wrote: »

@ shane

is it the fernox power flushing filter you have? ill try find out tomorrow the strenght of the adey magnets. where did you buy your filter from?

thanks for replies

I got it through Fernox.

paddy_joe

shane0007 wrote: »

Yes I use the Fernox Powerflow in conjunction with their magnet.
http://www.fernox.com/files/Fernox/Content/PDF/English/Powerflushing%20Filter.pdf
I used to use the Flush Buddy but makes hard work of a dirty system. Never looked back when I upgraded to the Flushing Filter.

what descaler do you use for best results?

shane0007

DS40
Just make sure you use the Neutraliser. Also be careful with aluminium heat exchangers.

paddy_joe

Just rang adey,they wont give out the information on strenght of magnet.....


@ shane, Do you put the descaler in a week beforehand?

Dtp79

paddy_joe wrote: »

Just rang adey,they wont give out the information on strenght of magnet.....


@ shane, Do you put the descaler in a week beforehand?

There magnet is probably not nearly as strong as the fernox and they know it!

shane0007

paddy_joe wrote: »

Just rang adey,they wont give out the information on strenght of magnet.....

@ shane, Do you put the descaler in a week beforehand?

It depends on how bad the system is but probably never a week, a couple of days max. I would be fearful of the acidity in the system for that length of time. I have a list of nearly all boiler heat exchanger material & refer to that to determine what my next action will be.

paddy_joe

Dtp79 wrote: »

There magnet is probably not nearly as strong as the fernox and they know it!

Yeah I would say so. She started on about the surface area of the magnet.
Just waiting on price back and availability on the fernox one now.

Dtp79

paddy_joe wrote: »

Yeah I would say so. She started on about the surface area of the magnet.
Just waiting on price back and availability on the fernox one now.

Women!!

shane0007

Dtp79 wrote: »

Women!!

See it IS all about size and she told me that size didn't matter, it was the power behind it that counted!
Sheesh, women.....

JohnnieK

sullzz wrote: »

Lol ! Must be dying for the first flush job to come in .
You get that extra bit of satisfaction with the thermal imaging camera when on a really dirty system , great to show the customer.
Gotta love the amount of s**t you collected on the filters in your pics.

I've used it twice since since Monday and it's unreal lads. It make's my old Pulsar one look like a toy compared to it. I certainly had a horn on me when I used it for the first time.:D:D

Robbie.G

Jesus johnnie you need to get out more when a power flusher gives you a stiffy.I heard the new one was good but I couldn't imagine it was that good

sullzz

JohnnieK wrote: »

I certainly had a horn on me when I used it for the first time.:D:D

Sweet lord !!!!!

paddy_joe

JohnnieK wrote: »

I've used it twice since since Monday and it's unreal lads. It make's my old Pulsar one look like a toy compared to it. I certainly had a horn on me when I used it for the first time.:D:D

how much did new one set you back? did you use it on its own or with a fernox power flushing filter? i have the pulsar one myself too.looking to upgrade,found it slow on last couple of jobs.

shane0007

sullzz wrote: »

Sweet lord !!!!!

I did warn yeas!

Dtp79

JohnnieK wrote: »

I've used it twice since since Monday and it's unreal lads. It make's my old Pulsar one look like a toy compared to it. I certainly had a horn on me when I used it for the first time.:D:D

Jonnies idea of porn is watching the fernox powerflush tutorial on YouTube!

JohnnieK

paddy_joe wrote: »

how much did new one set you back? did you use it on its own or with a fernox power flushing filter? i have the pulsar one myself too.looking to upgrade,found it slow on last couple of jobs.

It was €1100. Worth every penny, hadn't the budget to go for the filter yet but got the pump head adaptor. I had the pulsar one too and it's a toy compared to this one.

I have three jobs for it this week, one is a system with a 2 year old boiler and no circulation what so ever I'll keep you posted on the outcome.

paddy_joe

JohnnieK wrote: »

It was €1100. Worth every penny, hadn't the budget to go for the filter yet but got the pump head adaptor. I had the pulsar one too and it's a toy compared to this one.

I have three jobs for it this week, one is a system with a 2 year old boiler and no circulation what so ever I'll keep you posted on the outcome.

do you always use the fernox ds40?do you do much power flushing?

shane0007

I would only use DS40 on certain instances that warrant it, i.e. where the system is affected by limescale rather than sludge. F5 would be my most common choice for sludge. If I was Powerflushing GB, I would use F3.

Dtp79

shane0007 wrote: »

I would only use DS40 on certain instances that warrant it, i.e. where the system is affected by limescale rather than sludge. F5 would be my most common choice for sludge. If I was Powerflushing GB, I would use F3.

Is f5 the strongest for sludge and ds40 for lime?

shane0007

Yes but both will remove both, sort of speak!
F5 is designed to remove sludge predominately but also contains lime scale removing properties & DS40 is designed to remove lime scale predominately but also contains sludge removing properties.
DS40 is very acidic so extreme caution must be take when flushing boilers with aluminium heat exchangers & the DS40 Neutraliser must be used.

paddy_joe

JohnnieK wrote: »

It was €1100. Worth every penny, hadn't the budget to go for the filter yet but got the pump head adaptor. I had the pulsar one too and it's a toy compared to this one.

I have three jobs for it this week, one is a system with a 2 year old boiler and no circulation what so ever I'll keep you posted on the outcome.

So how did the job go?

JohnnieK

paddy_joe wrote: »

So how did the job go?

The Fernox machine shifted it in a jiffy.

JohnnieK

JohnnieK wrote: »

The Fernox machine shifted it in a jiffy.

Then you shifted the fernox machine:eek:

Robbie.G

Hey lads you's need to get out more there are very strange fetishes going on here we won't mention speedos, steps and fernox power flows

shane0007

Robbie.G wrote: »

Hey lads you's need to get out more there are very strange fetishes going on here we won't mention speedos, steps and fernox power flows

Hmmmm.... Haven't thought of that one, Powerflushing whilst in a pair of Speedos.
Thanks Robbie!

shane0007

Robbie.G wrote: »

Sure you can try that next week using a fernox and see then wtf Charlie says then
Even metac don't teach that

Erm.. perhaps we should keep that to ourselves

Robbie.G

shane0007 wrote: »

Erm.. perhaps we should keep that to ourselves

Enough said