Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

Acid attack in dublin

«1

Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,525 ✭✭✭kona


    Jacob T wrote: »
    Common in some muslim countries, and even some muslim communities in London - these are absolutely horrific (Just do a quick google search for the effects) and I hope they don't start becoming common over here. The perpetrators should be locked up for a very long time.

    http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/investigation-underway-after-suspected-acid-attack-583637.html
    The **** have Muslims gotta do with it. Clearly a scumbag attack.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    Terrible crime. Should carry a 20 year sentence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭Jacob T


    kona wrote: »
    The **** have Muslims gotta do with it. Clearly a scumbag attack.

    Oh here come the PC brigade, where it's "correct" or not to state these kind of attacks are a lot more prevalent among muslims than compared to hindus/buddhists/etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    Jacob T wrote: »
    Oh here come the PC brigade, where it's "correct" or not to state these kind of attacks are a lot more prevalent among muslims than compared to hindus/buddhists/etc

    Here comes the "PC-Brigade Brigade".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    Normally Muslim acid attacks are on women, I thought?

    This is most likely just run-of-the-mill scumbaggery.


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭Max Power


    Here comes the "PC-Brigade Brigade".
    And here comes the PC-brigade-brigade brigade.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,125 ✭✭✭kirving


    It's for acts like this where I think we need some crazy punishments like cutting off the attackers hands.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    And here comes the PC brigade brigade brigade.

    Ah c'mon, we'll be here all night :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,525 ✭✭✭kona


    Jacob T wrote: »

    Oh here come the PC brigade, where it's "correct" or not to state these kind of attacks are a lot more prevalent among muslims than compared to hindus/buddhists/etc
    So is blowing up innocent people


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭Jacob T


    Normally Muslim acid attacks are on women, I thought?

    This is most likely just run-of-the-mill scumbaggery.

    Yeah I agree, there was a case where a muslim woman was attacked with acid because she "allowed" herself to get raped. Savages.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    Wonder where these scumbags got the idea from? did'nt the well admired Nig in Love/Hate threaten to do this to a woman to ensure her silence.
    That was the series that glamourised scumbags and Irish people bought into it in a similar way they bought into the property bubble.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Jacob T wrote: »
    Oh here come the PC brigade, where it's "correct" or not to state these kind of attacks are a lot more prevalent among muslims than compared to hindus/buddhists/etc

    There nothing in the article to suggest the Religion of the attacker, so I really fail to see the relevance. BTW, acid attacks are pretty common right across South Asia, mostly in Pakistan, Bangladesh and India. Also, in India its pretty damn common amongst Hindu's as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ResearchWill




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭miller50841


    These sort of attacks have happened here before and abroad.
    I am a bit confused where the Muslim part came out of but I know of a attack on a bus driver where the acid was thrown over the protective screen and got his face and hands.

    Scum bags


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,080 ✭✭✭EoghanIRL


    Scum these days


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭laoch na mona


    Jacob T wrote: »
    Yeah I agree, there was a case where a muslim woman was attacked with acid because she "allowed" herself to get raped. Savages.

    yes those people were savages but not because of there religion more to do with them being bad people

    nothing in the link you you posted suggests it was muslims frankly I don't take kindly to you trying to defame a perfectly good religion


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭MaxSteele


    Where the **** are these filth getting acid from ? Jesus, the thought of experiencing such an attack is terrifying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ResearchWill


    Interesting case from 2010 http://www.herald.ie/news/courts/brother-of-acid-attack-victim-told-leave-town-2157443.html

    "When he then got into his car, he said Patrick Moorehouse Jnr "pulled a gun and pointed it at me and told me I would be shot if I didn't get out of Bray."

    Later Joseph Moorehouse was sitting on a wall and he said Paddy Snr threw acid."

    Good old Muslim name Paddy.

    Paddy was cleared http://www.herald.ie/news/courts/dad-and-three-sons-cleared-of-acid-attack-2169526.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭BOHtox


    And here comes the PC-brigade-brigade brigade.

    And here's the PC PC-brigade-brigade-brigade people's front of Judea


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    I find these attacks so weak willed. Throw acid in their face out of nowhere and then flee without any chance of retaliation. It's a fuking spineless thing to do and the victim is most likely left very disfigured.

    Pure scumbag/prick thing to do.


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    MaxSteele wrote: »
    Where the **** are these filth getting acid from ? Jesus, the thought of experiencing such an attack is terrifying.

    In my school, a few years ahead of me, there was a girl who only had about a quarter of a head of hair. The rest looked shaved. It turns out she got acid thrown over her and her hair never grew back. :-(


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    kona wrote: »
    So is blowing up innocent people

    I think you will find that is very much something that we in the west excel at.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,525 ✭✭✭kona


    Well you all have acid in yer car battery's


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    kona wrote: »
    So is blowing up innocent people
    you've never heard of the troubles no?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭i71jskz5xu42pb


    Seaneh wrote: »
    I think you will find that is very much something that we in the west excel at.
    The West? The North surely.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Ranicand wrote: »
    Look let us not have these misinformed bigoted racist views.

    Islam is the religion of peace.:D:D:D:D


    So you've got in for them and the Jews...even handed, I suppose.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Jacob T wrote: »
    Common in some muslim countries, and even muslim communities in London - these are absolutely horrific (Just do a quick google search for the effects) and I hope they don't start becoming common over here. The perpetrators should be locked up for a very long time.

    http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/investigation-underway-after-suspected-acid-attack-583637.html

    Theres nothing whatsoever in that article to suggest either culture or religion had anything to do with it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    The West? The North surely.

    By the west i meant Europe and North America.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭Jacob T


    For people saying this isn't more common with islam:
    Acid, the new weapon for disfiguring women
    It's happening in Bangladesh as well as in Pakistan and Gaza. There is, of course, nothing in the Qur'an to the effect of "Throw acid on her" if a woman is disobedient -- there is just "beat her" (4:34). But the horrible attacks on these women are an indirect result of the reduction of women to the status of commodities in Islamic law. They are not seen as equal human beings with rights they were bound to respect, but as animals to be punished harshly if they get out of line. http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/10/acid-the-new-weapon-for-disfiguring-women.html




    Mob in Pakistan Burns Down Houses and Throws Acid on Christian Women and Children
    So far 9 burned women and 4 children have been transferred to Lahore for further medical treatment. All of them have been injured by throwing acid on them. Local police have arrived on the scene but the situation is out of control as thousands of Muslims have gathered for this purpose.
    http://ibloga.blogspot.com/2009/07/mob-in-pakistan-burns-down-houses-and.html






    Acid attack on Afghan schoolgirls
    Attackers in Afghanistan have sprayed acid in the faces of at least 15 girls near a school in Kandahar, police say. They say the attack happened shortly before at least six people were killed in a bomb blast near a government building in the city.Doctors say the six girls were wearing Islamic burkas or veils which provided them with some protection. Correspondents say the attack is likely to have been carried out by those opposed to the education of women. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7724505.stm


    Acid attack on boy who 'refused sex with Muslim cleric'
    The teenager talked, with difficulty, of how his life had been destroyed since the fateful day in June 2002 when he refused to have sex with his teacher at a religious school in Pakistan. The boy was horrifically injured in an acid attack after he rebuffed the Muslim cleric's sexual advances. Now, he has alarmed Pakistan's powerful religious establishment by pressing charges against his alleged assailants. A teacher at the school, who cannot be named for legal reasons, and two of his friends are in prison awaiting trial for attempted murder and rape. All three deny the charges. A fourth alleged attacker is still at large. It is the first such case to be brought against a Muslim cleric and threatens to expose a scandal of sex abuse within Pakistan's secretive Islamic schools. Abid was blinded and maimed in the assault, which he says came shortly after he rejected sexual demands from the Islamic teacher at a madrassa in a crowded, lower middle-class district of Karachi. "He threatened to ruin me for life," Abid recalled, "but I didn't take him seriously. I just stopped going to the madrassa". http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/1453786/Acid-attack-on-boy-who-refused-sex-with-Muslim-cleric.html






    Pakistan: Acid thrown over women in ‘blasphemy’ attack on village
    An angry mob petrol-bombed homes and threw acid over Christian women, after mosque loudspeakers accused the Christians of blasphemy. The attack took place on 30 June at Bahmani village in the district of Kasur, in Punjab. Partners of Release International, which serves persecuted Christians, say a mob looted and burned the houses of Christians. Lawyers told Release International that one of the victims of the acid attack was Noreen, a young teenage girl. She was taking a bath when a petrol bomb was hurled through the window. “After she ran naked from the room a Muslim boy threw acid on her,” said Katherine Sapna from CLAAS (the Centre for Legal Aid Assistance and Settlement). “The acid burnt her back and a little went on her face.” http://www.inspiremagazine.org.uk/news.aspx?action=view&id=3574




    Muslim women, children bear scars of acid attacks
    DHAKA (AFP) – At first glance, Bably Akter looks like any other nine-year-old Bangladeshi girl, dressed in a brightly coloured pink and turquoise skirt and top trimmed with silver sequins. A matching headband conceals her left ear, badly deformed and the only obvious sign she is the victim of an acid attack, a practice rampant in the impoverished country, used mainly in domestic disputes and against women and children. As her mother, Parul, recounts the story of how Bably’s father put drops of acid on different parts of her body every day for five days when she was a baby, the little girl lifts her skirt to reveal a large scar on her legs and feet.

    “Her father wanted a son. He’d been violent towards me before Bably was born but it was not until day five, when he actually fed her acid I realised something was seriously wrong,” Parul, 26, said.
    -By restricting women to second class citizens islamic communities encourage violence against them. If islam ever rejoins the rest of the human race in this century it will be the women that force the change.She complained to the police but charges were never laid.-Naturally, she was his property and it was a private family matter. http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/2009/03/08/muslim-women-children-bear-scars-of-acid-attacks/


    Islam in action - Acid attacks on women
    We hear this often - acid attacks on women in Islamic societies. It happens in Pakistan, Bangladesh, Kashmir, Sudan etc. - the only thing common to these places is they are Islamic societies in the grip of fundamentalist Islamists (i.e., practising Muslims). The problem is this - Islam simply does not regard women are fully human. They are property, and a man can do anything to property. This is reflected by the terrible state of women throughout Islam. I have always stated clearly that women are the primary reason why it is unethical to keep quiet about Islam. Islam dehumanizes women. And the world keeps silent. I won't. http://dharmaveer.blogspot.com/2009/03/islam-in-action-acid-attacks-on-women.html




    And now in Londonistan
    A Muslim man is in a critical condition in hospital after having acid poured down his throat in an "honour attack" for having a relationship with a married woman. Police have warned the woman, also a Muslim, that her life is now in danger and are discussing how best to protect her. The 24-year-old man was attacked with sulphuric acid and stabbed by four men. He was blinded in one eye, suffered severe injuries to his tongue and throat and suffered 50 per cent burns. He was also stabbed twice in the back and attacked with bricks leaving him with fractures to his face. The Danish man, who is of Asian origin, is said to have "insulted" a woman's religious family by becoming close to her, although she has denied to officers that the relationship was sexual. He was attacked at about 2am on July 2 in Marchant Road, Leytonstone, east London, close to a bedsit in Mayville Road he had rented a few weeks earlier to be near the woman. One witness who saw the attack from her window said: "I saw four men lashing out and kicking him on the ground. I shouted and they ran off, then one went back and started on him again. "The poor man got up and ran straight into a tree, then staggered back to his house, tugging at his burning clothes and banging on doors shouting for water." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/5894521/Muslim-man-critical-after-honour-attack-with-acid.html


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭Fox_In_Socks


    Nodin wrote: »
    So you've got in for them and the Jews...even handed, I suppose.

    I'll throw in Christianity and Bahá'í as well, as they are on special offer! Everything must go!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,939 ✭✭✭mardybumbum


    I watched a great documentary on this topic a few days ago which followed a plastic surgeon from England who traveled to Pakistan to treat women who had been disfigured in these attacks.

    http://www.channel4.com/programmes/saving-face/4od

    Would absolutely recommend watching it if you have the time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    Jacob T wrote: »
    For people saying this isn't anything to do with islam:
    But the case you opened the thread with does not have any obvious link to Islam.
    Nobody's denying acid attacks are prevalent among Islamic fundamentalists though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭Jacob T


    Madam_X wrote: »
    But the case you opened the thread with does not have any obvious link to Islam.
    Nobody's denying acid attacks are prevalent among Islamic fundamentalists though.

    Thanks for that.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    Beating your wife in Islam is haram.You can beat your wife once you cause no damage to her skin including any scratches,bruising,raising of the skin,swelling or markings.You can't beat her in any sensitive areas,this includes the face,head or any female genetalia including the titties.Never with a closed fist or object.

    Id give a medal to anyone who could beat someone without doing the above.Throwing acid at someone rules out almost all of the above.Therefore it is not Islamic,nor is it related to Islam.It is related to backward,crazy people who happen to be muslim.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ResearchWill


    Jacob T wrote: »
    For people saying this isn't more common with islam:

    No one is saying its not common or even more common in Countries that follow Islam, its just not unique to such countries example http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-18246717

    The real issue is its majority crimes against women and majority of countries are poor.

    For each report you quote of an attack in a Muslim country I can find reports of non Muslim attacks.


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Jacob T wrote: »
    For people saying this isn't more common with islam:

    Nobody actually said that. What they did say - quite correctly - was that the article you posted bore no indication whatsoever that it had anything to do with muslims.

    Seeing as you're getting your info from here though
    http://crombouke.blogspot.ie/
    its safe to say that there was a huge big sectarian agenda from the get go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 301 ✭✭Tetra


    I watched a great documentary on this topic a few days ago which followed a plastic surgeon from England who traveled to Pakistan to treat women who had been disfigured in these attacks.

    http://www.channel4.com/programmes/saving-face/4od

    Would absolutely recommend watching it if you have the time.

    That's the same surgeon who treated Katie Piper after her acid attack. I read her book, it was very good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ResearchWill


    From this report the victim was a Polish male, attacker was male. Large Muslim community in Poland. http://www.thejournal.ie/acid-attack-hollystown-dublin-782588-Feb2013/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    From this report the victim was a Polish male, attacker was male. Large Muslim community in Poland. http://www.thejournal.ie/acid-attack-hollystown-dublin-782588-Feb2013/


    Obviously a vodka fuelled polish muslim feud.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,156 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Nodin wrote: »
    Theres nothing whatsoever in that article to suggest either culture or religion had anything to do with it.

    We know but some people like to jump to ridiculous conclusions!

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,779 ✭✭✭up for anything


    Jacob T wrote: »
    Common in some muslim countries, and even muslim communities in London - these are absolutely horrific (Just do a quick google search for the effects) and I hope they don't start becoming common over here. The perpetrators should be locked up for a very long time.

    Going on your username it's not hard to see why you've got a thing about Muslims. :D


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    washman3 wrote: »
    Wonder where these scumbags got the idea from? did'nt the well admired Nig in Love/Hate threaten to do this to a woman to ensure her silence.
    That was the series that glamourised scumbags and Irish people bought into it in a similar way they bought into the property bubble.


    Acid attacks went on long before Love/hate hit our screens. People may have found Nidge funny on many occasions but no normal person would condone an acid attack. I would doubt they needed love/hate to get the idea. Remember Love/hate is art depicting life not the other way around


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 arsenal15


    This is a horrible crime and shouldnt have ethnicity brought into the equation , whoever did this is sick and should be locked up , but in this country will probably do feck all time because the judicial system here is on the side of the criminal needs serious reform our country is a joke. So much so that there are scumbags out there that have the balls to shoot a member of the law how many more crimes are us as the public meant to put up with before someone realises we need reform. I thought our law professionals and leaders in this country were "educated"..?It doesnt take a genius to realises we need to be harder on criminals to make these bastards think twice before commiting any crime!!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Acid throwing, a terrible crime.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭mackg


    MaxSteele wrote: »
    Where the **** are these filth getting acid from ? Jesus, the thought of experiencing such an attack is terrifying.

    It's not hard to make acid. Google how to make sulphuric/hydrochloric acid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Ranicand wrote: »
    ...........
    Most Muslims don't carry out Acid attacks but were is the massive outrage among the world Muslim community?

    ................

    Did you bother your arse to look?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    woodoo wrote: »
    Terrible crime. Should carry a 20 year sentence.

    Or an eye for an eye.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 930 ✭✭✭poeticseraphim


    kona wrote: »
    So is blowing up innocent people

    Nah that's us only we run away after.....bloody us coming over here..being all us.....they're driving legless in Kerry don't ya know...****ing us...we're gob****es


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    Ranicand wrote: »

    If it was that massive I would not have to look.
    I do know there has been massive outrage in India over that gang rape.
    I think you're tarring everyone with dark skin as being Muslim.Im fairly certain there were no Muslims involved in that attack.


  • Advertisement
Advertisement