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    #62
    Greengrass1
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    moy83 wrote: »
    Would you want to be living there though ? The father always said it would be the right job to sell up and move where the weather and land could make farming enjoyable

    Don't know. I'd never sell farm here. Be a nice idea to set up second farm though


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    #63
    moy83
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Don't know. I'd never sell farm here. Be a nice idea to set up second farm though

    Never say never , it would be hard keep an eye on things if you had farms in two different countries .

    @sheebadog do you have any farming interest in Ireland now or is it all in France ?


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    #64
    RightTurnClyde
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    @sheebadog. How do they set the lease value over that number of years. Is there any rent reviews over the 18 yrs.


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    #65
    sheebadog
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    RightTurnClyde wrote: »
    @sheebadog. How do they set the lease value over that number of years. Is there any rent reviews over the 18 yrs.

    Rent is set by the Government and is reviewed every year, often reviewed down if there is drought etc.
    It's very favourable to the farmer.


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    #66
    sheebadog
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    moy83 wrote: »
    Never say never , it would be hard keep an eye on things if you had farms in two different countries .

    @sheebadog do you have any farming interest in Ireland now or is it all in France ?

    I've other interests in Ireland but you have to be here.


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    #67
    moy83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭moy83


    sheebadog wrote: »
    I've other interests in Ireland but you have to be here.

    I was thinking you would alright .


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    #68
    sheebadog
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    stanflt wrote: »
    At maize too

    Stan would you know the index on the variety you are growing?

    Indices are on the bag as an FAO number.
    The south of France would have an index of 450. Where I am would have an index of 370 but as we are getting late now I'll plant an index of 300.

    I find that the index number is a lot more important than the variety that the salesman is pushing.


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    #69
    stanflt
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    sheebadog wrote: »
    Stan would you know the index on the variety you are growing?

    Indices are on the bag as an FAO number.
    The south of France would have an index of 450. Where I am would have an index of 370 but as we are getting late now I'll plant an index of 300.

    I find that the index number is a lot more important than the variety that the salesman is pushing.

    Just looked at the bags there- no fao number
    One that says 297

    It's p8200 from pioneer


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    #70
    sheebadog
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    stanflt wrote: »
    Just looked at the bags there- no fao number
    One that says 297

    It's p8200 from pioneer

    It's hardly 297 as the north of France is less than 250. I would guess that you should be on 150 to 200??

    With planting the correct index you can be certain of harvest date.
    The day I plant forage maize I will be harvesting exactly 120 days later - I could even book the contractor!
    Indices are important because the smaller the number the greater the early vigour which would be invaluable in Ireland.


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    #71
    frazzledhome
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    Went for cows at 3, started milking and relief guy landed at 4 as arranged as I planned an evening out with missus and kids. 3 rows in cow with ecoli, waiting for vet

    Rot your sack!!!


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    #72
    Greengrass1
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    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Went for cows at 3, started milking and relief guy landed at 4 as arranged as I planned an evening out with missus and kids. 3 rows in cow with ecoli, waiting for vet

    Rot your sack!!!

    What does a cow with ecoli look like?


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    #73
    frazzledhome
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    What does a cow with ecoli look like?

    Phucked


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    #74
    frazzledhome
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    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Phucked

    Have you never had one? Really sick, fell in, dehydrated and failing fast.

    Treat with IV and lots of fluids and TLC. Another cull if she makes it


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    #75
    Greengrass1
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    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Have you never had one? Really sick, fell in, dehydrated and failing fast.

    Treat with IV and lots of fluids and TLC. Another cull if she makes it

    Not that I know of.
    I've forgotten about all the mastitis we had.
    Didn't know they would get ecoli when there out grazing


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    #76
    Brown Podzol
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    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Have you never had one? Really sick, fell in, dehydrated and failing fast.

    Treat with IV and lots of fluids and TLC. Another cull if she makes it

    Gram negative bacteria. Framycetin and cronixin should get it. If she recovers, put her on once a day and in a couple of weeks will be fine on 3 quarters. I speak from experience.:mad:


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    #77
    frazzledhome
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    Brown Podzol wrote: »
    Gram negative bacteria. Framycetin and cronixin should get it. If she recovers, put her on once a day and in a couple of weeks will be fine on 3 quarters. I speak from experience.:mad:

    Fram and cronixin with Revive dissolved in 30 litres of water pumped in. She's a bit brighter already. Luckily her temp was high not low


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    #78
    Greengrass1
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    My heifer is looking a lot better. Giving feck all milk though. Have her on OAD but she's only putting out 5l.
    Wasnt thinking right last night and I only gave here 15ml of the rapidexon instead of 30


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    #79
    Timmaay
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    Brown Podzol wrote: »
    Gram negative bacteria. Framycetin and cronixin should get it. If she recovers, put her on once a day and in a couple of weeks will be fine on 3 quarters. I speak from experience.:mad:

    What are they, injections or tubes? Have had about 5cases of what looks like ecoli here over the last 2 yrs, one cow died from it, another the udder fell off her (literally!), somehow survived, was sold the other day as a cull for small money. Other were were only the one spin, thankfully all recovered as 3 spinners.


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    #80
    frazzledhome
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    Timmaay wrote: »
    What are they, injections or tubes? Have had about 5cases of what looks like ecoli here over the last 2 yrs, one cow died from it, another the udder fell off her (literally!), somehow survived, was sold the other day as a cull for small money. Other were were only the one spin, thankfully all recovered as 3 spinners.
    The only chance is if you're early. If temp drops call knacker


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    #81
    mf240
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    Ya getting them in time you will save cow but not quarter.

    It's watery or tea coulered stuff with little or no clots. Drawing out as much as possible and getting fluids in will help.

    Removing teat will let out all the poison and save cow, but I'm not sure if it's allowed.


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    #82
    Greengrass1
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    Have had a fair few cows with chronic staph, udders burst open with all the mastitis. Not nice


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    #83
    Brown Podzol
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    Timmaay wrote: »
    What are they, injections or tubes? Have had about 5cases of what looks like ecoli here over the last 2 yrs, one cow died from it, another the udder fell off her (literally!), somehow survived, was sold the other day as a cull for small money. Other were were only the one spin, thankfully all recovered as 3 spinners.

    Injections. Framycetin is antibiotic and cronixin is antiflamitory. I think E. coli is the only gram negative mastitis and most people would go with the penicillins which would be ok for other forms but not for E. coli. If the udder fell off then that would probably be gangrene mastitis. Only ever saw one case of it and not pretty. You were lucky to save the cows life.


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    #84
    stanflt
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    cobactin rumecam or flinixin and shi t e loads of water with chanedol

    if got within 12hours cow will not lose quarter


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    #85
    farmersfriend
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    Brown Podzol wrote: »
    Gram negative bacteria. Framycetin and cronixin should get it. If she recovers, put her on once a day and in a couple of weeks will be fine on 3 quarters. I speak from experience.:mad:

    Have had a couple over the years. Came back fine on affected teat the next year. Awful dose if not treated fast, very easy to lose them. Goes right thru the cow


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    #86
    Timmaay
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    Brown Podzol wrote: »
    If the udder fell off then that would probably be gangrene mastitis. Only ever saw one case of it and not pretty. You were lucky to save the cows life.

    Bloody lucky, I was just about to call the knackery when my dad convinced me to leave her there another day or so, she made a big improvement and the swelling in her belly dropped back alot. Got 300quid for her the other day, instead of spending 100quid or so getting rid of her, I'll put my hands up and admit my dad was right on that one ha.


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    #87
    awaywithyou
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    If got early... Treating for ecoli shouldn't be a problem... We use noroclav... Ketofen and marbox.... For 3 days.... And obviously tube affected quarter... And strip out quarter regularly....


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    #88
    trixi2011
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    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Went for cows at 3, started milking and relief guy landed at 4 as arranged as I planned an evening out with missus and kids. 3 rows in cow with ecoli, waiting for vet

    Rot your sack!!!
    Know your pain was suppose to have the weekend off ,was driving by were the cows were on the way to town saturday and noticed 4 cows down on the last area they grazed. Investigated and all 4 were down. Had to go round to a few different farms to find some calcium. Got them all bagged and lifted but 2 of the bitchs have trapped nerves but on the mend.


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    #89
    sheebadog
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    Started ploughing for soya beans today.


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    #90
    sheebadog
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    sheebadog wrote: »
    Started ploughing for soya beans today.

    Bit of dust about.


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    #91
    sheebadog
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    sheebadog wrote: »
    Started ploughing for soya beans today.

    Bit of dust about.


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