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Aspergers

  • 30-01-2013 8:52pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Ranicand


    Having the condition and not knowing it for most of my life has been a nightmare.

    For those that don't know Aspergers is best describe as high functioning Autism.
    Many people with the condition do not get diagnosed until they are adults or middle aged.

    It causes black and white thinking something is right or wrong gray areas are a bit tricky.

    The condition is masked by normal or above normal IQ.

    Sensory overload is another problem noises lights and lot's of movement like crowds or traffic can be very stressful.

    Two questions how important is body language eye contact?

    Also do you know anybody with the condition and how do they come across.

    I have found this useful.
    http://www-users.cs.york.ac.uk/~alistair/survival/index.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,696 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Ranicand wrote: »

    It causes black and white thinking something is right or wrong gray areas are a bit tricky.

    Causes Irishness by the sounds of it, carry on and keep calm your perfectly normal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭pookiesboo


    Ranicand wrote: »
    Having the condition and not knowing it for most of my life has been a nightmare.

    For those that don't know Aspergers is best describe as high functioning Autism.
    Many people with the condition do not get diagnosed until they are adults or middle aged.

    It causes black and white thinking something is right or wrong gray areas are a bit tricky.

    The condition is masked by normal or above normal IQ.

    Sensory overload is another problem noises lights and lot's of movement like crowds or traffic can be very stressful.

    Two questions how important is body language eye contact?

    Also do you know anybody with the condition and how do they come across.

    I have found this useful.
    http://www-users.cs.york.ac.uk/~alistair/survival/index.html


    I was watching The Undateables last night on Channel 4 and a girl on it had it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,072 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Individuals with AS may collect volumes of detailed information on a relatively narrow topic such as weather data or star names, without necessarily having a genuine understanding of the broader topic.

    That pretty much describes everyone on the internet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,412 ✭✭✭✭endacl



    Causes Irishness by the sounds of it, carry on and keep calm your perfectly normal.
    Not sure standard AH type answers will be helpful to the OP, who has asked reasonable questions about real problems... Perhaps a little seriousness on this one?

    Op, if I were you I'd post again in another forum. After hoursians might be helpful, but they may just annoy you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭Lyaiera


    I know a few people with Aspergers. They all try really hard once diagnosed not to let it control them. One thing I've found is that the people with a really good handle on it will tell others to tell them if they're doing anything weird or strange. One guy says he won't know if he's doing something that's offputting to others, so just tell him and he'll make an attempt to figure out the situation and at the least make other people more comfortable even if he doesn't fully understand why they would be.

    Unfortunately the illness has been dragged through the mud by internet dicks claiming it as a defense for any crappy behaviour they exhibit. All the aspies* I talk to would never use it as a defense but merely say, "I didn't understand and realise. Explain to me what I was doing and I'll try and figure it out."


    Also, "aspies" have been reclaiming that word for years. The biggest forum online is names itself aspies. It's become a badge of honour thing now.


    Edit:
    endacl wrote: »
    Op, if I were you I'd post again in another forum. After hoursians might be helpful, but they may just annoy you.

    I disagree. We have a depression thread. I don't think this will stick around for as long but it's worth it for the while to help people out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    I think they recently declared that Aspergers didn't exist.

    So, eh, yeah.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    You will probably have a much better time if you have a night out with friends rather than if you go out alone

    Thats where Ive been going wrong all these years!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭Lyaiera


    Doc Ruby wrote: »
    I think they recently declared that Aspergers didn't exist.

    So, eh, yeah.

    Not really. They just reclassified it under another name. For the people who were properly diagnosed it won't make any difference. And it shouldn't make any difference for doctors who are capable of making good diagnoses in the future.


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    Whenever I read something about a person with Aspergers I think "that's me." I'm not officially diagnosed but a lot of it adds up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,696 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    endacl wrote: »
    Perhaps a little seriousness on this one?

    He's having a hard time accepting he's Irish, hold on and I get my Violin and we'll knock together a tune.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    Doc Ruby wrote: »
    I think they recently declared that Aspergers didn't exist.

    So, eh, yeah.
    You'd be wrong, it's simply being classified under the autism spectrum...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    For a minute I thought somebody had started a thread about asparagus.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 352 ✭✭Best username ever


    At least it's not arse-burgers, that's the worst thing ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭dmc17


    At least it's not arse-burgers, that's the worst thing ever.

    Second worst to arse-burglers ;)


  • Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ranicand wrote: »
    Two questions how important is body language eye contact?

    Also do you know anybody with the condition and how do they come across.

    Body language is very important to me, but eye contact isn't.

    I've known quite a few people with AS but one in particular is worth mentioning. He used to come across as extremely on-edge in social situations, to the point that he'd try too hard and to be honest end up making people (me in particular at the time) quite uncomfortable. College completely changed him, and he put a lot of work into becoming the person he wanted to be as well at the time, and now you'd never notice anything odd about his behaviour, if anything he's one of the most sociable, personable people I know. I don't think I've ever seen such a marked change in anyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭D1stant


    He's having a hard time accepting he's Irish, hold on and I get my Violin and we'll knock together a tune.

    Cute.

    OP you are in the wrong forum here.

    Your post deserves a better response than this inane drivel. Mods please move thread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,879 ✭✭✭ArtyM


    Did you not start a thread very recently just like this OP - one that went.....less than swimmingly?
    I could be wrong, sorry if I am.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Ranicand


    One thing I get is people with Aspergers can make people feel uncomfortable in social situations.

    A subtle hint wont help nor will guarded answers.

    In plain English we need to know what we are doing wrong the more detail the better.

    That is why I hate political correctness and false politeness.

    In a social situation if we do something wrong people will say nothing but moan behind our backs.

    I understand this is mostly to avoid offense and awkwardness.

    However plain English is best.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 297 ✭✭dienbienphu




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    A lot of people who claim to have aspergers are just looking for a reason to qualify the fact that they are, quite simply, arseholes.

    It's a serious condition with serious diagnostic criteria. Having an obscure hobby, being socially awkward, lacking self esteem, being a nerd, being self-righteous, being unable to handle criticism, being unpopular, being anti-social, being intelligent, not being able to engage in reasonable conversation, and/or always thinking you are always right does not necessarily mean you have aspergers. Being weird is not a medical condition.

    Get over it, because you're diluting the problem for people who actually have the condition.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    orestes wrote: »
    A lot of people who claim to have aspergers are just looking for a reason to qualify the fact that they are, quite simply, arseholes.
    But what if they're telling the truth and they do have Aspergers?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    orestes wrote: »
    A lot of people who claim to have aspergers are just looking for a reason to qualify the fact that they are, quite simply, arseholes.

    It's a serious condition with serious diagnostic criteria. Having an obscure hobby, being socially awkward, lacking self esteem, being a nerd, being self-righteous, being unable to handle criticism, being unpopular, being anti-social, being intelligent, not being able to engage in reasonable conversation, and/or always thinking you are always right does not necessarily mean you have aspergers. Being weird is not a medical condition.

    Get over it, because you're diluting the problem for people who actually have the condition.
    sounds like me right there...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Ranicand


    orestes wrote: »
    A lot of people who claim to have aspergers are just looking for a reason to qualify the fact that they are, quite simply, arseholes.

    It's a serious condition with serious diagnostic criteria. Having an obscure hobby, being socially awkward, lacking self esteem, being a nerd, being self-righteous, being unable to handle criticism, being unpopular, being anti-social, being intelligent, not being able to engage in reasonable conversation, and/or always thinking you are always right does not necessarily mean you have aspergers. Being weird is not a medical condition.

    Get over it, because you're diluting the problem for people who actually have the condition.

    Having poor eye contact engaging in stimming being hypersensitive to light sounds textures.

    Poor coordination poor handwriting.

    No able to bare physical contact or affection from another human.

    Do not kiss hug clap cheer or engage in any kind of emotional talk.

    Get flustered.

    Where do you get off with your post?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    Madam_X wrote: »
    But what if they're telling the truth and they do have Aspergers?

    Then they have a serious condition that needs proper management, based on a real medical diagnosis.
    sounds like me right there...

    It sounds like pretty much every guy who spends too much time on the internet, myself included, that's my point. Being an internet nerd doesn't mean you have aspergers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,412 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Ranicand wrote: »
    Having poor eye contact engaging in stimming being hypersensitive to light sounds textures.

    Poor coordination poor handwriting.

    No able to bare physical contact or affection from another human.

    Do not kiss hug clap cheer or engage in any kind of emotional talk.

    Get flustered.

    Where do you get off with your post?
    Are you getting anything helpful Ranicand? I had a feeling it might go this way....:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    I was diagnosed with AS at age 10 or 11. Diagnosis severely upset my parents and indeed myself.
    As I grew up, it became apparently ridiculously quickly that the diagnosis was total bull, and that in fact I exhibited almost no symptoms of AS at all. I soon forgot about it, in fact. For example, a lot of girls have told me that my persistent eye contact is actually unusual in that I have no problem maintaining eye contact for long periods of time, and apparently this makes me appear massively confident when talking to people.
    Years later I asked my mum about it out of curiosity and she told me that a psychologist I'd gone to for my general hyperactivity (another thing - the fact that small boys are bags of energy and don't like sitting still is apparently now meant to come as a surprise :confused: ) had diagnosed AS based on my total evasiveness to her questions, my failing to answer anything with a direct or straight answer and my general refusal to engage with her at all.
    I had to laugh when my mum told me this. One of the things I'm blessed with is an extremely detailed and vivid "incidental" memory - I can think back to specific incidents, events, conversations etc that happened years ago and remember them play by play, with almost total accuracy. My friends are often shocked by how much random crap I remember from our childhoods which have long since vanished from most memories.
    I remembered being taken to this psychologist and remembered all my conversations with her, and to cut a long story short, I had decided almost immediately not to co-operate with her. I found it intensely creepy that a complete stranger was asking me intimate details about my life and poking her nose in, and after all isn't not talking to strangers one of the things most children are taught until they reach their teen years and can handle such things? I was also acutely aware that I was being "studied" like a lab specimen - who the hell takes notes while having a conversation with you about your life? So basically, I had made a conscious decision that over my dead body would I allow this creepy stranger to study my life. I shut her out and refused to give any meaningful answers to any of her questions. Apparently this led her to believe that I genuinely hadn't understood what she was asking me, and that this appalling level of communication skill obviously meant I had something like AS.

    Having been through all this, I now regard the entire field of child psychology with deep suspicion. It absolutely terrifies me how narrow the definition of "normal" has become - it must be virtually impossible not to be diagnosed with a syndrome or disorder these days - and given my experience, I have to ask how many misdiagnoses are made based on the fact that most kids (or adults, indeed!) don't like being interrogated by strangers about their innermost thoughts. The ADHD thing I mentioned is another of my pet hates - since when is the fact that little boys don't generally like to sit still for hours and would prefer to do something active meant to be surprising? The human race has been this way since its very inception - we wouldn't have survived otherwise, after all.

    Anyone who's been diagnosed with AS, I urge you to take the following survey:
    http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/9.12/aqtest.html

    I scored 19. The average is 18 for people without AS, those who have AS usually score in excess of 32.
    OP, if you find AS makes your life difficult then I truly feel for you, but if you don't mind my asking, what age were you diagnosed at? And is it at all possible that the diagnosis itself became a self fulfilling prophecy by labelling you?
    Even if it is, I believe things like shyness with regard to eye contact can be overcome. If you meet a girl with hypnotic eyes or example you won't be able to tear your gaze away from them for too long ;)

    For the psychiatric profession to give people a label because of "black and white thinking" is the height of hypocrisy and irony - personally I can't think of any group more guilty of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    Ranicand wrote: »
    Having poor eye contact engaging in stimming being hypersensitive to light sounds textures.

    Poor coordination poor handwriting.

    No able to bare physical contact or affection from another human.

    Do not kiss hug clap cheer or engage in any kind of emotional talk.

    Get flustered.

    Where do you get off with your post?

    My post wasn't directed towards you personally, and I'm sorry if you read it that way, it was a general comment on a tendency of a certain demogrphic of people self-diagnosing with aspergers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Ranicand


    orestes wrote: »
    My post wasn't directed towards you personally, and I'm sorry if you read it that way, it was a general comment on a tendency of a certain demogrphic of people self-diagnosing with aspergers.

    Trying to get a diagnoses as an adult is next to impossible everything is aimed at children.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    For me, before I knew anything about Aspergers I used to believe I was a freak, and that was the word I'd use to describe myself. After that I began to realise that there may be an explanation for it. I found it really difficult to find someone who was willing to help me with getting a diagnosis (or not, as the case may be) so I just didn't bother in the end.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Ranicand





    Anyone who's been diagnosed with AS, I urge you to take the following survey:
    http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/9.12/aqtest.html

    I scored 19. The average is 18 for people without AS, those who have AS usually score in excess of 32.
    OP, if you find AS makes your life difficult then I truly feel for you, but if you don't mind my asking, what age were you diagnosed at? And is it at all possible that the diagnosis itself became a self fulfilling prophecy by labelling you?
    Even if it is, I believe things like shyness with regard to eye contact can be overcome. If you meet a girl with hypnotic eyes or example you won't be able to tear your gaze away from them for too long ;)

    For the psychiatric profession to give people a label because of "black and white thinking" is the height of hypocrisy and irony - personally I can't think of any group more guilty of it.

    I have taken that test and others here is one of my results.

    I don't have an official diagnosis I am trying my best to get one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭ziggy23


    My little boy is being assessed for Aspergers soon. He has a few symptoms like he's extremely intolerant to noises like the hoover, hairdryer drilling etc but he's very affectionate. I'd like to know if he has a certain condition just so I can help him more and understand him more, but I think people get too bogged down with labels these days. I could not care less if he has it he is just unique :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Ranicand wrote: »
    Trying to get a diagnoses as an adult is next to impossible everything is aimed at children.

    And this in my view is absolutely moronic. People change wildly throughout their teen years - and that's before you consider the fact that as I pointed out, most kids have been taught not to be too open with complete strangers. Coupled with the fact that most kids are smarter than adults give them credit for and know they're being "studied" or "observed", I imagine a vast number of child "disorders" are woefully misdiagnosed. However, such misdiagnosis and the subsequent labelling, boxing, even sometimes drugging which follows, in all possibility then creates actual problems later in life.

    IMO trying to get a good idea of how someone's mind works before they're at least in their mid to late teens is hopelessly pointless and in all probability also extremely dangerous psychologically.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    ziggy23 wrote: »
    My little boy is being assessed for Aspergers soon. He has a few symptoms like he's extremely intolerant to noises like the hoover, hairdryer drilling etc but he's very affectionate. I'd like to know if he has a certain condition just so I can help him more and understand him more, but I think people get too bogged down with labels these days. I could not care less if he has it he is just unique :)

    I had this as a kid as well and in my case it was something called "hyperacusis", which is actually an abnormality in the ear, either caused by slightly weaker bones around the ear (leading to more sound getting through) or an excess of "hair cells" (the nerves which actually receive sound input).

    If he's affectionate then he probably doesn't have AS.Intolerance to noise might just mean he has very strong hearing. And it could, in my case, also mean he'll eventually be able to play musical instruments completely by ear, which is a gift I am immensely thankful for and has made my life a bajillion times more fun than it otherwise would be :D

    All this is just my opinion, but IMO don't label kids before they're in late adolescence, at the earliest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,696 ✭✭✭mark renton


    Did the test, seems I have aspegers. Used to just think I was a nerd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Ranicand wrote: »
    I have taken that test and others here is one of my results.

    I don't have an official diagnosis I am trying my best to get one.

    Where does one take that test you linked an image of? I've seen it before but can't remember where


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    Ranicand wrote: »
    Trying to get a diagnoses as an adult is next to impossible everything is aimed at children.

    Because the symptoms tend to deminish with age and sufferers tend to learn the basics of social interaction in their own way, so that although they are still socially awkward they learn to function to a certain degree. Although I think that being examined should be available for everybody regardless of age, I can understand why the focus is on children.
    Karsini wrote: »
    For me, before I knew anything about Aspergers I used to believe I was a freak, and that was the word I'd use to describe myself. After that I began to realise that there may be an explanation for it. I found it really difficult to find someone who was willing to help me with getting a diagnosis (or not, as the case may be) so I just didn't bother in the end.

    This is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about. Aspergers is not an umbrella term for people who are weird/different/freaks/whatever, but people who are weird.different/freaks/whatever read about it and think "Ah, that explains it! I have aspergers!".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Ranicand


    Where does one take that test you linked an image of? I've seen it before but can't remember where

    I can not remember either that result has been I my desktop for ages now.


  • Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Anyone who's been diagnosed with AS, I urge you to take the following survey:
    http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/9.12/aqtest.html

    I scored 19. The average is 18 for people without AS, those who have AS usually score in excess of 32.
    I definitely don't have AS but I had a go and I scored 35 :/
    Ranicand wrote: »
    Trying to get a diagnoses as an adult is next to impossible everything is aimed at children.
    But there is undoubtedly a tendency for some people to excuse behaviour they're not happy with by saying they're "pretty sure" they must have AS. I had a boyfriend once who, sometimes when he did anything socially awkward, would say "Ah, sure me and my mum have always though I have a touch of the aspergers". I don't think it's very respectful to people who have to live with AS to go around quoting "a touch of" aspergers as an excuse for why they're not super popular.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Ranicand wrote: »
    I can not remember either that result has been I my desktop for ages now.

    http://www.rdos.net/eng/Aspie-quiz.php

    My result was:
    Your Aspie score: 131 of 200
    Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 70 of 200
    You are very likely an Aspie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭ziggy23


    I had this as a kid as well and in my case it was something called "hyperacusis", which is actually an abnormality in the ear, either caused by slightly weaker bones around the ear (leading to more sound getting through) or an excess of "hair cells" (the nerves which actually receive sound input).

    If he's affectionate then he probably doesn't have AS.Intolerance to noise might just mean he has very strong hearing. And it could, in my case, also mean he'll eventually be able to play musical instruments completely by ear, which is a gift I am immensely thankful for and has made my life a bajillion times more fun than it otherwise would be :D

    All this is just my opinion, but IMO don't label kids before they're in late adolescence, at the earliest.

    Thanks for your reply yes I was looking at hyperacusis too. He's has been lik this with noise since he was a baby but recently he got his ears drained and grommits put in and he has gotten worse with the noise.
    It's funny you should mention the music part, he LOVES music and can pick up a tune extremely quickly including Bohemian Rhapsody:D
    Out of curiosity how is Hyeracusis diagnosed? And I agree I wouldnt dream of labelling him now he's only 3 so is way too early for any diagnosis.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭blatantrereg


    I know a couple of people with Asperger's. I really like them, can relate to them, and think they come across well. But then people I know familiar with it say they think I have it myself and I scored 38 on that AQ test. [That surprised me really as I thought my answers would score much lower]. That's not a way of excusing being an arsehole btw; I dont think I'm an arsehole and most people seem to like me well enough!

    The book Freaks, Geeks and Asperger Syndrome is highly recommended, though I haven't read it myself. One thing I've been told is that people with Asperger's find it less likely to cause them problems the older they get. My understanding is that they're quite happy and able to learn how to understand the sorts of behaviours that other people get more instinctively.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,696 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    ziggy23 wrote: »
    My little boy is being assessed for Aspergers soon. He has a few symptoms like he's extremely intolerant to noises like the hoover, hairdryer drilling etc but he's very affectionate. I'd like to know if he has a certain condition just so I can help him more and understand him more, but I think people get too bogged down with labels these days. I could not care less if he has it he is just unique :)

    Does he really need to be assesed, We all have our kinks growing up and even as adults, I was never a fan of the Hoover or hairdryer and I can be pretty intolerant when I get going.
    He sounds like a normal young chap, he'll grow up and adjust to those things as he gets older. The last thing I'd be doing is giving him medication or paying for therapy.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    orestes wrote: »
    This is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about. Aspergers is not an umbrella term for people who are weird/different/freaks/whatever, but people who are weird.different/freaks/whatever read about it and think "Ah, that explains it! I have aspergers!".

    So I'm an "arsehole" then? (in your words)

    As I said already, I looked into support options but ran into the same brick wall as Ranicand did, in that there's very little out there for adults. I didn't just sit there and say I have it - I never said I did, just that I suspect it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,288 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Karsini wrote: »
    http://www.rdos.net/eng/Aspie-quiz.php

    My result was:
    Your Aspie score: 131 of 200
    Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 70 of 200
    You are very likely an Aspie

    thanks for posting this test,I do have a diagnosis of AS and found this test interesting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭ziggy23


    Does he really need to be assesed, We all have our kinks growing up and even as adults, I was never a fan of the Hoover or hairdryer and I can be pretty intolerant when I get going.
    He sounds like a normal young chap, he'll grow up and adjust to those things as he gets older. The last thing I'd be doing is giving him medication or paying for therapy.

    Hiya the health nurse referred him to the early intervention clinic. He's not specifically being assessed for Aspergers but it's one of the things they'll be looking out for as well as Autism and ADHD.He has had speech problems too so I think they just link it all in together. He has been on the waiting list for a year and in that time he has improved alot apart from the noise issue.To be honest I dont think he has Aspergers but it's no harm to get him assessed. They do it through play so he'll actually enjoy it I'd say. Yes I think he's just a 'spirited' little boy. He's a great kid :D
    Oh and btw I wouldn't dream of putting him on medication :O


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    ziggy23 wrote: »
    Thanks for your reply yes I was looking at hyperacusis too. He's has been lik this with noise since he was a baby but recently he got his ears drained and grommits put in and he has gotten worse with the noise.
    It's funny you should mention the music part, he LOVES music and can pick up a tune extremely quickly including Bohemian Rhapsody:D
    Out of curiosity how is Hyeracusis diagnosed? And I agree I wouldnt dream of labelling him now he's only 3 so is way too early for any diagnosis.

    To be honest I self-diagnosed mine purely based on the fact that my hearing is a good 3 or 4 times stronger than anyone else I know in terms of distance. I actually get woken up at night by the sounds of cars driving 3 or 4 roads away from my house. Fall asleep in a busy room or with a TV blaring? Not a hope.
    I also hear things that almost nobody else does. Like I'm usually the one to say "Was that the doorbell?" when we're watching something loud and no one else noticed it. I have to wear earplugs in nightclubs and even then step outside every half hour or so because I just can't hack the volume level at all, and when I share headphones with someone else (one earphone each kind of thing) it never works since my iphone's volume becomes intolerable for me at about 25% when a lot of my mates can't hear it at all below 40 :D

    I personally wouldn't recommend getting it "treated" as I can only imagine 'treating' it by somehow lowering hearing threshold would have the side effect of wrecking your ability to perceive music in the same way. It gets better as your get older - I haven't run from the house at the sound of a food processor since I was age 10 or so :D - but some things like sirens and motorbike engines will probably always make me jam my hands over my ears until they're gone :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    ziggy23 wrote: »
    To be honest I dont think he has Aspergers but it's no harm to get him assessed.

    Potentially. The harm would come from labelling or treating him differently because of it. Being a naive kid like I was, simply being told I had a 'syndrome' upset me as at the time I'd only ever heard the word used in the context of people who have a serious illness, and for a good few months I woke up every morning looking at myself in the mirror and thinking "seriously man, there's nothing wrong with you just ignore it, you're grand" :/
    Can be very upsetting at that age to learn that you are "scientifically" considered unusual. Or maybe that was just me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Ranicand


    Karsini wrote: »
    So I'm an "arsehole" then? (in your words)

    As I said already, I looked into support options but ran into the same brick wall as Ranicand did, in that there's very little out there for adults. I didn't just sit there and say I have it - I never said I did, just that I suspect it.

    Poor eye contact
    Can not hug kiss cheer clap.
    Got bullied and taken advantage of.

    Obsessed with subjects like computers and the Universe.

    I stim.
    I have OCD.
    Handwriting is poor.

    I find it difficult to tell when people are joking or serious.

    Sounds go through me and lots of movement gets me very stressed and flustered.
    I have a strong sense of right and wrong and I go into rages inside when people break rules.

    I engage in long monologs on narrow subjects.

    Now I knew all this about myself before I even heard about Aspergers.

    I don't think I have a touch of it I have the bloody works.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭ziggy23


    To be honest I self-diagnosed mine purely based on the fact that my hearing is a good 3 or 4 times stronger than anyone else I know in terms of distance. I actually get woken up at night by the sounds of cars driving 3 or 4 roads away from my house. Fall asleep in a busy room or with a TV blaring? Not a hope.
    I also hear things that almost nobody else does. Like I'm usually the one to say "Was that the doorbell?" when we're watching something loud and no one else noticed it. I have to wear earplugs in nightclubs and even then step outside every half hour or so because I just can't hack the volume level at all, and when I share headphones with someone else (one earphone each kind of thing) it never works since my iphone's volume becomes intolerable for me at about 25% when a lot of my mates can't hear it at all below 40 :D

    I personally wouldn't recommend getting it "treated" as I can only imagine 'treating' it by somehow lowering hearing threshold would have the side effect of wrecking your ability to perceive music in the same way. It gets better as your get older - I haven't run from the house at the sound of a food processor since I was age 10 or so :D - but some things like sirens and motorbike engines will probably always make me jam my hands over my ears until they're gone :p

    Yes I suppose he's only a baby still and he'll get used to it over time I must do some more research on it I thought it had to be treated. He actually loves the noise of sirens its just kind of white noise he hates. He actually gets hysterical its very distressing for him:( but hey I have an excuse for not hoovering my house:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    Karsini wrote: »
    So I'm an "arsehole" then? (in your words)

    As I said already, I looked into support options but ran into the same brick wall as Ranicand did, in that there's very little out there for adults. I didn't just sit there and say I have it - I never said I did, just that I suspect it.

    No, I said a lot of people who claim to have aspergers use it to qualify being arseholes and used your post as a general example. You didn't claim to have aspergers, but a lot of people read about it and go one step further than you did and just diagnose themselves with it to excuse their behaviour.

    Thinking you might have aspergers, or actually having aspergers, is not the same thing as being socially awkward and saying "I can't help being this way, I have aspergers!".

    Self-diagnosing yourself with a condition and using it to validate being anti-social and difficult to deal with is being an arsehole.


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