Nokia EOS (WP with true Pureview) [Now Nokia 1020]

Francie Barrett

This could be the game changer for Nokia and WP. Reports are coming out that they will release a Lumia with similar capabilities to the Pureview camera that we saw on the Nokia 808 latter this year.

http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/23/nokia-reportedly-lining-up-true-pureview-windows-phone-for-launch-this-year-codenamed-eos/

According to the Verge, which cites sources familiar with Nokia’s plans for 2013, the company is planning a “true PureView Windows Phone” — currently codenamed EOS — which will have a “similar sensor” to the one used in the 808 PureView.

But, according to the Verge’s sources, the EOS handset will be ranged as a high-end Lumia this year, and will be clad in aluminium — rather than polycarbonate, Nokia’s current material of choice for its high end Lumia phones. The Verge has previously reported that Nokia plans to shift from plastic to lightweight aluminium for one of its forthcoming high end Lumia phones. But it’s now suggesting EOS will apparently be one of three aluminium handsets in Nokia’s forthcoming Lumia line-up, along with the previously rumoured Lumia 920 replacement (codenamed Catwalk) — and a third, unnamed mid-range device expected to land in early summer.

The EOS device will be ranged by AT&T, according to the Verge’s sources, and will apparently have a new look — rocking “squared edges” on its aluminium body. Of course, Nokia declined to comment on the rumoured device when we asked. A spokesman told us: “Nokia does not comment on rumours and speculation.”

One issue with this rumour is that the PureView sensor is very large — making the 808 handset quite heavy, with a noticeable bulge at the top end. Nokia has been criticised for the weight of its flagship Lumias — something that won’t be helped if it’s going to add the full kit and caboodle powering the PureView. Still, with a second flagship — the Catwalk — reportedly in the works, Nokia could offer Windows Phone fans a choice between a slender, lightweight high end Lumia, or a larger heavier handset which boasts unparalleled camera performance.

The strategy of offering two flagship phones (a bigger phone that is necessary to contain true Pureview capabilities and a lighter, thinner device for those less interested in the camera) makes a lot of sense. WP getting 808-esque performance and a Xenon flash would be a real coup for the OS and might be a trump card that could convert a lot of folks.

PaulieC

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kirving

I can't take Nokia seriously anymore, since they can't release a phone properly. 920 has been out for months, but no chance of getting one on a network here.

PaulieC

Kevin Irving wrote: »

I can't take Nokia seriously anymore, since they can't release a phone properly. 920 has been out for months, but no chance of getting one on a network here.

You say that like Ireland is actually an important market for global firms, rather than the backwater it actually is.

Francie Barrett

Leaked photo of the new EOS, or whatever it's going to be called.

From what I can see, it looks like it will be a proper Pureview with massive image sensor and Xenon flash (from what I can see on the housing anyway).

Can this be moved to the Windows forum btw?

lolie

Pic of the camera hump but could be just a render. Think i like the 808 hump more.


Lets hope Microsoft get their finger out and update WP8's features as the 920 was nothin special.

AntiVirus

lolie wrote: »

Pic of the camera hump but could be just a render. Think i like the 808 hump more.


Lets hope Microsoft get their finger out and update WP8's features as the 920 was nothin special.

Lots more pictures leaked to GSMArena. Oh and the 920 is an excellent phone, best touch screen of any smart phone, great for wireless charging and unbeatable for low light pictures, its excellent optical image stabilisation for video recording, runs as smooth as butter and is very fast.

http://www.gsmarena.com/exclusive_leaked_photos_show_nokia_eos_from_every_angle-news-6167.php

Francie Barrett

Look at that image closely, you can just about make out the time. To me it looks like the OS finally has support for standby notifications, if so that means the Nokia Sleep Screen can finally be ported over.

Francie Barrett

lolie wrote: »

Lets hope Microsoft get their finger out and update WP8's features as the 920 was nothin special.

Agree totally! I get the feeling that Nokia could have an amazing 808-type Lumia out tomorrow with all the bells and whistles (proper Pureview, FM transmitter, HDMI out, etc.) but for the fact that OS updates seem to take an age for Microsoft.

AntiVirus

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Look at that image closely, you can just about make out the time. To me it looks like the OS finally has support for standby notifications, if so that means the Nokia Sleep Screen can finally be ported over.

The nokia sleep screen is coming with the next update

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TZhKxYyTqw

evolutionqy7

I kinda like that their trying to keep the rest of the phone skinny and only expose the unavoidable camera bulge, but it looks very odd.

Wondering whats the weight distribution would be like. Would love a reason to go back to Windows Phone, 920 was a bit of a let down, especially on the fact that you cant buy it, in a retail store...

Francie Barrett

Expected to be called the Nokia 1020 not the EOS.

http://www.gsmarena.com/evleaks_nokia_eos_to_be_officially_named_lumia_1020-news-6276.php

evolutionqy7

Can't wait. Doubt I'll probably get it, it would have to impress me a LOT to make me get it over the humongous note 3.

If it had comparable battery life it wouldn't he hard though

Blut2

Very excited for the announcement next week. Will be very interesting to see how the 1020 compares to the Galaxy S4 Zoom. And to see which/if any Irish networks pick up either of them.

I've been putting off upgrading from my trusty Sony Ericsson Satio for years (well, aside from having a work iPhone5 that I also use) waiting for a phone with a better camera and Xenon flash. Didnt fancy being stuck with Symbian again with the 808 so hopefully the 1020 or the Zoom will do the job.

super_furry

Due an upgrade in August and out of contract in October, really hope this makes it to the networks here.

evolutionqy7

Blut2 wrote: »

Very excited for the announcement next week. Will be very interesting to see how the 1020 compares to the Galaxy S4 Zoom. And to see which/if any Irish networks pick up either of them.

I've been putting off upgrading from my trusty Sony Ericsson Satio for years (well, aside from having a work iPhone5 that I also use) waiting for a phone with a better camera and Xenon flash. Didnt fancy being stuck with Symbian again with the 808 so hopefully the 1020 or the Zoom will do the job.

I really don't see the galaxy camera phone taking off. Its not pocket-able enough . It would be like carrying around a point and shoot in your pocket. While the Nokia doesn't have the optical zoom, I'm sure the 41 MP will make up for it, in optical zoom on 5 MP pictures.

Francie Barrett

Blut2 wrote: »

Very excited for the announcement next week. Will be very interesting to see how the 1020 compares to the Galaxy S4 Zoom. And to see which/if any Irish networks pick up either of them.

I've been putting off upgrading from my trusty Sony Ericsson Satio for years (well, aside from having a work iPhone5 that I also use) waiting for a phone with a better camera and Xenon flash. Didnt fancy being stuck with Symbian again with the 808 so hopefully the 1020 or the Zoom will do the job.

Images from the Galaxy S4 Zoom have already featured on this website, being directly compared to the Pureview 808 - http://hi-tech.mail.ru/review/misc/Samsung_Galaxy_S4_Zoom-rev.html Worth having a look.

You might also want to pay attention to the Sony Honami (20 MP camera with a big image sensor and Xenon flash). http://www.gsmarena.com/more_sony_xperia_honami_photos_show_a_xenon_flash-news-6290.php

Blut2

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Images from the Galaxy S4 Zoom have already featured on this website, being directly compared to the Pureview 808 - http://hi-tech.mail.ru/review/misc/Samsung_Galaxy_S4_Zoom-rev.html Worth having a look.

You might also want to pay attention to the Sony Honami (20 MP camera with a big image sensor and Xenon flash). http://www.gsmarena.com/more_sony_xperia_honami_photos_show_a_xenon_flash-news-6290.php

Hadn't heard about the Honami at all, thanks for that. Between the 1020, Honami and the Zoom I'm sure I'll find one that will do me.

Francie Barrett

The 1020 was unveiled just now. I have to say the camera technology looks absolutely fantastic. It has everything that the Pureview 808 has plus a new tricks.

jimmynokia

Full details here!
http://conversations.nokia.com/?p=127767

Smashing camera folks what you thinking?

Blut2

Looks great...now just to cross my fingers and hope an Irish network picks it up.

KingOfFairview

This is going to cost what, €750 here? Jaysits knows when we'll get it

Francie Barrett

The image comparisons between the 1020 and the competition are going to be very, very interesting. What'll also be interesting is the comparison between it and the Pureview 808 (the 808 has a slightly better flash and larger image sensor, whereas the 1020 has image stabilization).

peter_dublin

Great to see, been waiting for a replacement for my N8 for a long time (808 aside), I'll be getting this even if I have to go sim free.

Francie Barrett

If they're going to sell this thing for $700 sim free, then I shudder to think what it will cost us in Europe.

Francie Barrett

I think you are going to see the likes of HTC and Samsung scrambling to include Xenon flash in their devices.

Francie Barrett

Another great example the detail that is captured. These are two separate pictures, the bottom is a crop of the top.

evolutionqy7

Looks nice, cant wait to get my hands on it. Is it enough to win me back?

Davy

The camera mount is terrible looking, takes from the rest of the design. The two colour works to highlight the camera and make it standout and be noticed, but the balance is more bad than good. The N8 mount wasn't great looking, but the 808 fitted much better even if it was a big bulge at first but this is a few steps back especially in those colours

TBi

Looks great, but i wish they made a smaller one. I hate these 4.5" gargantuan screens

Hopefully will help WP8 stand out and gain marketshare.

AntiVirus

Looks great

AntiVirus

Check out the link below for some full resolution pictures, looks very impressive :-)

http://press.nokia.com/media/626/photo/list/1014/nokia-lumia-1020-2/?tpage=100

quad_red

Only mention I've seen of international availability is from the Irish times; The Lumia 1020 will go on sale later this month in the US, with China and “key European markets” getting the handset later in this quarter.

As I come to another upgrade point, I find myself faced with another really attractive and hyped up Nokia with features that really appeal - but no real availability info for Ireland and no pricing details.

Francie Barrett

Full specs - just a shame it's running a previous gen CPU.

OS: Windows Phone 8
Networks:
GSM: 850 MHz, 900 MHz, 1800 MHz, 1900 MHz
WCDMA: 2100 MHz, 1900 MHz, 850 MHz, 900 MHz
LTE network bands 1, 3, 7, 20, 8
HSPA+ DL Cat 24, Dual Carrier 42.1 Mbps/UL Cat5.76 Mbps
Memory: 2GB RAM, 32GB internal user memory, 7GB Skydrive cloud storage
Display: 4.5 inch AMOLED WXGA (1280 x 768) 2.5D sculpted glass Gorilla Glass 3, PureMotion HD+ ClearBlack, High Brightness Mode, Sunlight readability, Super sensitive touch for nail and glove usage
Processor: 1.5 Ghz dual-core Snapdragon (no word on which snapdragon processor though)
Camera: PureView 41 MP sensor with Optical Image Stabilization (OIS), Backside-illuminated image sensor, 6 lens optics, High resolution zoom 3x, Autofocus, Xenon Flash, LED for video, 1080p video at 30 fps, Includes Nokia Pro Camera mode and Nokia Smart Camera Mode.
Secondary Camera: HD 1.2 Megapixel wide angle
Dimensions: 130.4 x 71.4 x 10.4 mm, 158 grams
Connectivity: USB 2.0, BT 3.0, NFC with SIM based security, WLAN a/b/g/n, A-GPS and Glonass, 3.5 mm audio connector
Battery: 2000 mAh battery, Wireless Charging supported via accessory cover
Audio: IHF speakers, 2 microphones, HD voice compliant, 3.5mm AV connector
Colors: Yellow, White, Black
Operating times:
Maximum talk time (3G): 13.3 h
Standby time: 16 Days
Video Playback time: 6.8 hours
Music Playback time: 63 hours
Key Features:
- Here Location and Mapping Service: Free global HERE Maps and HERE Drive+, free HERE transit available in the store
- 41 Megapixel sensor captures the sharpest images with details never though possible from a smartphone
- Nokia Pro Camera boosts creativity through simple and easy to user controls usually reserved for the expert photographer
- Nokia Rich Recording delivers distortion free stereo audio in the loudest environments
- Comes with the only fully integrated and true offline Global maps experience from the HERE location suite
Nokia original accessories:
- Nokia Camera Grip PD-95G:
Confidence to take the perfect shot
* Built-in extra battery for longer usage
* Ergonomic grip with a two-stage camera key
* Universal tripod-mount
- Nokia Wireless Charging Cover CC-3066:
Effortless Wireless charging is just a snap away
* enable wireless charging with form fitting Qi compliant snap-on cover

evolutionqy7

I wouldn't be overly worried about the chip set. Windows phone doesn't need a lot to ruin smoothly. I'm sure it will handle every app with ease and load pages quick enough

Francie Barrett

Pre-order's available in Germany - €800!

http://www.gsmarena.com/the_nokia_lumia_1020_available_on_preorder_in_germany_for_799-news-6372.php

jimmynokia

Meteor and emobile not stocking the 1020

Blut2

€800! The zoom is retailing at "only" €540. http://www.expansys.ie/samsung-galaxy-s4-zoom-white-250799/

Zoom is far more unlikely to be picked up by a network though, I'd say.

wheresmybeaver

Preorders at €800 are similar to the preorder madness when the Lumia 920 dribbled onto the market in October / November / December last year. Now the prices for the 920 are finally reasonable. As long as Nokia don't flip up the supply of these phones like they did last year then prices will stabilize very quickly - give it a few weeks of general availability and id say you'll see reasonable prices.

Davy

jimmynokia wrote: »

Meteor and emobile not stocking the 1020

Telefonica have first dibs

jimmynokia

Davy wrote: »

Telefonica have first dibs

3 and Vodafone say they don't know, but 3 know dam well they won't sell hope to get a look at road map's shortly.
3 UK have said they will sell it now too.

pwwillia

3 ireland for whatever reason will not stock Nokia lumia phones.

evolutionqy7

They won't sell here. Most sales people are damn to ignorant to know their job windows phone and lumia is a scary mountain to them + add all the screaming faulty lumia 800 owners and you get some one who won't sell one cause they have a bad rep since the first model.

Guess we will see

Francie Barrett

Articles seem to suggest it will be hitting the UK in September.

Nokia are scoring an own goal here with this release. Why not give the thing a proper worldwide release instead of all this nonsense of staggering the release? Especially bizarre considering that no one in the US actually buys Nokia's phones.

Blut2

"Telefónica today announced a global agreement with Nokia to sell Nokia Eros[sic] 64 Gb exclusively to Movistar, Vivo and O2 customers in Telefonica markets during 2013. The smartphone will be launched this September."


http://www.wpcentral.com/exclusive-64gb-version-nokia-lumia-1020-telefonica

So on the plus side: a 64gb version! On the negative: relying exclusively on o2 Ireland to carry the device.

billbond4

Press release from O2 Ireland
http://www.o2online.ie/o2/uploads/pdfs/press/2013-07-15_O2_to_launch_exclusive_Nokia_Lumia_1020_variant_in_Ireland.pdf

evolutionqy7

Heres to hoping that the first batch will be sim free and available in yellow

jimmynokia

billbond4 wrote: »

Press release from O2 Ireland
http://www.o2online.ie/o2/uploads/pdfs/press/2013-07-15_O2_to_launch_exclusive_Nokia_Lumia_1020_variant_in_Ireland.pdf

Old news now, seen that on NokiaNewsIreland.Com

I wonder if the person at 02 will be happy putting up private info lol.

Blut2

billbond4 wrote: »

Press release from O2 Ireland
http://www.o2online.ie/o2/uploads/pdfs/press/2013-07-15_O2_to_launch_exclusive_Nokia_Lumia_1020_variant_in_Ireland.pdf

Fantastic stuff!

I wonder if the people who shelled out for 925s only to have then completely overshadowed 2 months later by the 1020 are regretful...

jimmynokia

Blut2 wrote: »

Fantastic stuff!

I wonder if the people who shelled out for 925s only to have then completely overshadowed 2 months later by the 1020 are regretful...

Yup I'm one of those lol. Don't mind though.

Blut2

jimmynokia wrote: »

Yup I'm one of those lol. Don't mind though.

I did try to warn you http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=85224169&postcount=49

Ah well, wait 6 months and there might be a 1020 beater, given the way Nokia are throwing out phones at the moment.