Self Confessed Rapist walks free on bail pending appeal!

Death and Taxes

Man walks free from court pending appeal after being jailed for three years for serial rape of daughter!
A man who admitted sexually abusing his daughter at least once a week for ten years has walked free from court after a judge jailed him for three years but granted him bail pending an appeal.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0121/patrick-o-brien-rape.html

This is unreal, bail pending appeal, he should be in jail!
One has to wonder if sexual crimes are taken seriously by the judiciary anymore.
"Mr Justice Paul Carney said it was one of the worst case of abuse of a daughter one could possibly find and it was at the top of the scale.
However he said he had to consider the health position of the accused"
Unfúkingbelievable:mad:

Lapin

As I was saying in another thread, the bastard should have been left to fester and rot for the remainder of his disease ridden days in some forgotten dungeon of Arbour Hill. :mad:


EDIT:

And that excuse for a judge should be fúcked into the cell beside him.

Potential-Monke

jaykay74

However he said he had to consider the health position of the accused.

Isn't it wonderful to get that level of consideration.

Chuck Stone

The time has come for minimum mandatory custodial sentencing for rape and sexual abuse.

Too many judges are simply out-of-touch clowns when it comes to sentencing for sex/abuse crimes.

Ghandee

Our wee country is steadily disappearing down the sewer it seems.

Bastard should have been castrated without anaesthetic.

SEPT 23 1989

What is it about sex crimes and our Judiciary?

what is it i wonder?

Death and Taxes

jaykay74 wrote: »

However he said he had to consider the health position of the accused.

Isn't it wonderful to get that level of consideration.

A damm sight more consideration than he gave his daughter!

jaykay74

I'm confused about the bail pending appeal. He pleaded guilty. Am I missing something here

http://www.herald.ie/news/courts/my-dad-raped-me-every-time-mum-went-out-to-bingo-3354089.html

My name is URL

What's worse is that the Prison Service had told the court that his illness could be managed behind bars, yet the judge ignored it.

http://www.98fm.com/2013/category-news-sport/dublin-dad-sentenced-for-rape/

leonidas83

QUOTE=WileyCoyote (Accelleratii Incredibus!);82808595]Man walks free from court pending appeal after being jailed for three years for serial rape of daughter!
A man who admitted sexually abusing his daughter at least once a week for ten years has walked free from court after a judge jailed him for three years but granted him bail pending an appeal.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0121/patrick-o-brien-rape.html

This is unreal, bail pending appeal, he should be in jail!
One has to wonder if sexual crimes are taken seriously by the judiciary anymore.
"Mr Justice Paul Carney said it was one of the worst case of abuse of a daughter one could possibly find and it was at the top of the scale.
However he said he had to consider the health position of the accused"
Unfúkingbelievable:mad:[/QUOTE]


Enough said

kraggy

The disgraceful Justice Carney.

Again.

bbam

Listening to that poor woman on the news.

She's been seriously let down by the so called justice system we have.

Surely the DPP need to speak up. This is essentially a deterrent to reporting or attempting to proceeded with rape cases.

Have to say if I were related to that poor woman, that sentence was the signal to dish out proper justice.

Slunk

leonidas83 wrote:

Enough said

Same can be said for that useless cnut judge Martin nolan.

fasttalkerchat

This is why victims stay quiet.

That beast would have been safe in prison. We can only hope...

jaffacakesyum

Sadly, these things don't shock me anymore. Ireland surely must be one of the top Western countries where you can rape women and get away with it so easily?

suicide_circus

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Carney

enda1

jaykay74 wrote: »

However he said he had to consider the health position of the accused.

Isn't it wonderful to get that level of consideration.

It is compassion which separates the State from the scum.

meoklmrk91

I'm sorry but why does someone's age and health come into crimes? This man deserves to die in prison for what he did to his poor daughter. If someone commits a crime and is sentenced to prison they should ****ing go and not get to walk free because they are old. What does that have to with anything.

This country is a ****ing disgrace, why would anyone who has been the victim of sexual assault, rape or abuse come forward when they are treated like this. It must take an unbelievable ammount of courage to come forward then only to get a slap in the face from a sentence like this. I swear the judicial system is nothing but a bunch of pedophile and rapist sympathisers, still after all we have been through in this country this is treated as a petty crime, for once I would like to see one if these yokes get exactly what hey deserve. For shame!

Blazer

Maybe the judge is hoping someone will take him out saving the state the cost of a trial.

curlzy

God I hate being a woman some times. Between Savita, the gang rape in India, this instance etc etc etc it's really very hard to not take a disliking to men in general***


*** Yes I know that's unfair : ( and I don't like thinking like this at all.

kraggy

Firstly, this poor woman gave up her right to anonymity so that he would be named and shamed.

So, when Justice Carney suspended the last 9 years of a 12 year sentence, that must have felt sickening beyond comprehension.

Then for him to let him walk free pending an appeal? How must that poor girl be feeling right now? According to the article she and the rest of her family were visibly upset in the court. I'd wager that that is somewhat of an understatement.

It started when she was 7. Just 7 years old. The bastard.

Carney should be taken out of the courts with his record of sentencing. I actually sometimes think he may be mentally ill or just evil. Not sure which.

suicide_circus

curlzy wrote: »

God I hate being a woman some times. Between Savita, the gang rape in India, this instance etc etc etc it's really very hard to not take a disliking to men in general.

seriously?
get a grip

Irish Musician

Can Judges be sued for gross negligence?

enda1

curlzy wrote: »

God I hate being a woman some times. Between Savita, the gang rape in India, this instance etc etc etc it's really very hard to not take a disliking to men in general.

What has the Savita incident got to do with men?

Your comment is rather ridiculous.

Lollipops23

I'll never understand why a person's age comes into it- we don't take away Nobel Peace prizes or any other accolades when someone becomes old or frail, the same should apply to punishments.

Being old doesn't undo the terrible things that man did.

curlzy

suicide_circus wrote: »

seriously?
get a grip

A grip of what? If you want to discuss something or raise a point then you need to be a bit clearer.

wobzilla1

curlzy wrote: »

God I hate being a woman some times. Between Savita, the gang rape in India, this instance etc etc etc it's really very hard to not take a disliking to men in general***


*** Yes I know that's unfair : ( and I don't like thinking like this at all.

At least as a woman you can't be charged with rape.

kraggy

curlzy wrote: »

God I hate being a woman some times. Between Savita, the gang rape in India, this instance etc etc etc it's really very hard to not take a disliking to men in general***


*** Yes I know that's unfair : ( and I don't like thinking like this at all.

I think you'll find that most of the people expressing outrage on this thread and feeling genuinely sick because of this story, are men.

curlzy

enda1 wrote: »

What has the Savita incident got to do with men?

Your comment is rather ridiculous.

You think Savita dying has nothing to do with men? Really? You don't think that she died due to the the Catholic Church's influence on this country? Guess who run the Catholic Church? Hint: It ain't women.

curlzy

wobzilla1 wrote: »

At least as a woman you can't be charged with rape.

I believe you're incorrect.

suicide_circus

curlzy wrote: »

A grip of what? If you want to discuss something or raise a point then you need to be a bit clearer.

my point was that you should get a grip on reality. your post was ridiculous

wobzilla1

curlzy wrote: »

I believe you're incorrect.

Section 4(a) rape can only be committed by a man, against either a man or a woman.

fasttalkerchat

curlzy wrote: »

A grip of what? If you want to discuss something or raise a point then you need to be a bit clearer.

A lot of things are wrong with the world. Women make many decisions these days and are just as responsible for what goes on as they are equally able to change things.

Ihatecuddles-old

curlzy wrote: »

You think Savita dying has nothing to do with men? Really? You don't think that she died due to the the Catholic Church's influence on this country? Guess who run the Catholic Church? Hint: It ain't women.

You are making a tit of yourself now.

Lollipops23

kraggy wrote: »

I think you'll find that most of them expressing outrage on this thread and feeling genuinely sick because of this story, are men.

I think what Curlzy is getting at (and I'm open to correction) is that there's been a spate of stories in recent weeks where women have been abused or had some terrible wrong done to them.

I agree, it's terrifying and makes me thank my lucky stars.

But 99% of men were also horrified at hearing the same news stories, it's unfair to hold it against the entire gender.

fasttalkerchat

wobzilla1 wrote: »

Section 4(a) rape can only be committed by a man, against either a man or a woman.

So a woman would be charged with sexual assault

ahnowbrowncow

curlzy wrote: »

You think Savita dying has nothing to do with men? Really? You don't think that she died due to the the Catholic Church's influence on this country? Guess who run the Catholic Church? Hint: It ain't women.

You seem to be forgetting that a large percentage of anti abortion people are women and being anti abortion does not equate to being catholic, so take your ignorance and misandry elsewhere

curlzy

kraggy wrote: »

I think you'll find that most of them expressing outrage on this thread and feeling genuinely sick because of this story, are men.

That's a stupid point IMO. Firstly you don't know people's gender based on usernames. Secondly some men expressing disgust doesn't negate the fact that most sex crimes are perpetrated by men against women.

Not all men are bad, I didn't say they were, what I said was that it's really hard not to take a disliking to men in general based on all horrific things men have done lately.

curlzy

suicide_circus wrote: »

my point was that you should get a grip on reality. your post was ridiculous

Thanks for the clarification. NOT:rolleyes:. If you just want to be insulting then stop bothering replying coz I really couldn't care less what you think.

curlzy

Ihatecuddles wrote: »

You are making a tit of yourself now.

How so? What part of that was incorrect?

jaffacakesyum

Lollipops23 wrote: »

I think what Curlzy is getting at (and I'm open to correction) is that there's been a spate of stories in recent weeks where women have been abused or had some terrible wrong done to them.

I agree, it's terrifying and makes me thank my lucky stars.

But 99% of men were also horrified at hearing the same news stories, it's unfair to hold it against the entire gender.

This.

I think it's difficult for men to understand how depressing it is to not be taken seriously in so many aspects of society in comparisan to men, to not have rights to their own bodies, to be under threat of rape and sexual assault and then in 9 times out of 10 not have justice done for it...and the list goes on.

I am not denying that there are many ways in which it is difficult to be a man (fathers rights comes to mind here) and I am not denying that sexual assault and rape does happen to men, but particularly in the last few months, as Lollipop said, so many stories come to light about horrible things women have to go through that just make it overwhelming.

But for someone to say this makes them inherently dislike men in general is absurd.

Lollipops23

curlzy wrote: »

Not all men are bad, I didn't say they were, what I said was that it's really hard not to take a disliking to men in general based on all horrific things men have done lately.

I feel kinda bad for you if the recent news stories colour your opinion of men in general.

Like, I've had my fair share of run-ins with assholes in my life (hell, I'm going through a break up right now) but I still love and respect the other men in my life, as they're decent human beings who treat women properly.

wobzilla1

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

So a woman would be charged with sexual assault

Maximum 10 years in prison compared to life in prison for rape

curlzy

Lollipops23 wrote: »

I think what Curlzy is getting at (and I'm open to correction) is that there's been a spate of stories in recent weeks where women have been abused or had some terrible wrong done to them.

I agree, it's terrifying and makes me thank my lucky stars.

But 99% of men were also horrified at hearing the same news stories, it's unfair to hold it against the entire gender.

thanks Lollipops, that's pretty spot on. It seems that people aren't bothering to consider the rest of my post at all, but sure that's the way it goes I suppose on the internet.

kraggy

curlzy wrote: »

That's a stupid point IMO. Firstly you don't know people's gender based on usernames. Secondly some men expressing disgust doesn't negate the fact that most sex crimes are perpetrated by men against women.

Not all men are bad, I didn't say they were, what I said was that it's really hard not to take a disliking to men in general based on all horrific things men have done lately.

A stupid point? Really? I've been around here long enough to know the gender of A LOT of posters. I've been here 9 years.

Besides that, you're being ridiculous and I think you're starting to realise that yourself now because you're bactracking slightly. Even if you're not, it's still an illogical stance to take.

Yes most sex crimes are committed by men against women. But they are not happening left, right and centre. For example, India has one fifth of World's population - 1.3 billion! That's one case in a massive country. Add to that increased communicaions links, media, internet etc and you'll realise that similar rape cases probably happened before but we didn't hear about it because the internet was not as well utilised back then. Anyway, it's the other side of the world!

And to even suggest that there's justification for disliking men, even in general, is frankly ludicrous.

Are you you going to stay away from your brothers and father from now on?

Barna77

ffs, fail to pay a fine or the tv licence and you'de be shítting yourself waiting for some sentence or whatever, and then you see cases likes this.

a fúcking disgrace


And I still wonder why there are constantly so many similar stories in this country. I mean sexual abuse within the family. I read a couple of weeks ago the story about the Dalkey case.... -shudders-
It baffles me.

wicorthered

I wonder why we bother with trials some times. They seem like a PR exercise for the state.

They pretend they are looking for justice, then hand out mickey mouse sentences for serious crimes. I'm surprised the judge didn't offer the monster a chance to simply pay his way out of this, that seems to be the usual easy way out for rapists!

I hope Paul Carney sleeps well tonight.

Yet another day when I'm ashamed to be Irish!! Having a lot of those the last 3 years!!!

ahnowbrowncow

jaffacakesyum wrote: »

This.

I think it's difficult for men to understand how depressing it is to not be taken seriously in so many aspects of society in comparisan to men, to not have rights to their own bodies, to be under threat of rape and sexual assault and then in 9 times out of 10 not have justice done for it...and the list goes on.

I am not denying that there are many ways in which it is difficult to be a man (fathers rights comes to mind here) and I am not denying that sexual assault and rape does not happen to men, but particularly in the last few months, as Lollipop said, so many stories come to light about horrible things women have to go through that just make it overwhelming.

But for someone to say this makes them inherently dislike men in general is absurd.

The list goes on, really? I'd like to see this list. And men are more likely to be physically assaulted or murdered but I don't go around saying I'm under threat of physical assault or murder.


Hysteria on boards.ie is getting worse.

Bad Santa

curlzy wrote: »

God I hate being a woman some times.

Between Savita, the gang rape in India, this instance etc etc etc it's really very hard to not take a disliking to men in general.

http://femalesexoffenders.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karla_Homolka

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moors_murders#Myra_Hindley

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverley_Allitt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Smith

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosemary_West

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diane_Downs

Etc etc etc..

Lapin

curlzy wrote: »

God I hate being a woman some times. Between Savita, the gang rape in India, this instance etc etc etc it's really very hard to not take a disliking to men in general***


*** Yes I know that's unfair : ( and I don't like thinking like this at all.

curlzy wrote: »

You think Savita dying has nothing to do with men? Really? You don't think that she died due to the the Catholic Church's influence on this country? Guess who run the Catholic Church? Hint: It ain't women.

curlzy wrote: »

That's a stupid point IMO. Firstly you don't know people's gender based on usernames. Secondly some men expressing disgust doesn't negate the fact that most sex crimes are perpetrated by men against women.

Not all men are bad, I didn't say they were, what I said was that it's really hard not to take a disliking to men in general based on all horrific things men have done lately.

Holy mother of fúck I've seen people hijack threads in the past as to use as a platform for their own agendas but you are really taking liberties with this one.

Up till your first post here you were the only person who hasn't expressed their disgust about the judges decision.

More interested in taking the discussion off topic to highlight your own feminist agenda.

For shame.:(