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How to make the big leap
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17-01-2013 1:17pm#1
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I moved here with pretty much no savings either (You would maybe need a few hundred for travel, food, a deposit for room), use a friends address to apply for jobs/speak to agencies. With friends over here, I find that people are really happy to help you out to get set up. Personally I would be delighted if one of my friends wanted to move over and crash with me till they were sorted. Also even with people that are not really good friends - people always shock with how generous and supportive they can be! For finding a place to live, on gum tree you can find loads of places that have no min let so you can just move into a room till your sorted. Also as Dr.Sanchez said you can just find a bar/retail job to keep you in a few bob till you find something else...Do it!
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Barmen/barwomen in London are some of the worst I have ever come across. You should be fine if you are willing to work. The quality and speed of service is generally nowhere near that of Ireland. It's probably down to the fact that lots of foreign students and the like do it as a part time job.
LOL; the irony is killing me. If the OP, a "foreigner" to the UK is coming over to live here and willing to do barwork as part time or temporary, would that be any different. Or are the other temps and part timers the "wrong kind of foreigners"?
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Best of luck to the OP. It may seem scary but it's not. You'll be fine.0 -
LOL; the irony is killing me. If the OP, a "foreigner" to the UK is coming over to live here and willing to do barwork as part time or temporary, would that be any different. Or are the other temps and part timers the "wrong kind of foreigners"?:D
Don't think you understand the definition of irony or you haven't understood what I said.
There a huge amount of foreign students with no formal bar training working in London. I didn't exclude Irish from that definition. My point was in relation to the fact that the standard isn't very high because of this so he shouldn't find it difficult to pick up work in that field.
You seem to have a bee in your bonnet about Irish and foreigners as you mentioned in the other thread too. If you have a point to make then come out and make it. Plenty of Irish don't see themselves as foreigners in the UK due to the close ties both countries have had in the past and still have. Ireland has been part of the UK in modern history for longer than it hasn't and we share the same language and similar culture. It's slightly different from an international student from Colombia who is here for 6 months to study. Do you think Scottish are foreigners too or are they ok until they get independence? I have an Irish, a US and a UK passport... is it ok for me to talk about foreigners or is it restricted to my country of birth or the county where I spent the most years?0 -
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I find that most bar staff in London have apparently little to no training or experience, whether they're foreign or native.
Yeah, the number of times I've been in a bar and had the staff look terrified when asked for a hot toddy is frankly pathetic. I think it's at least partly down to the churn, though
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Definitely - it's just not viewed as a serious job here. Well, in London at least - proper landlords/ladies seem to be in short supply. There are permanent staff in one of my locals, which is great, but it seems to be much more common outside London.I think it's at least partly down to the churn, though0 -
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Don't think you understand the definition of irony or you haven't understood what I said.
There a huge amount of foreign students with no formal bar training working in London. I didn't exclude Irish from that definition. My point was in relation to the fact that the standard isn't very high because of this so he shouldn't find it difficult to pick up work in that field.
You seem to have a bee in your bonnet about Irish and foreigners as you mentioned in the other thread too. If you have a point to make then come out and make it. Plenty of Irish don't see themselves as foreigners in the UK due to the close ties both countries have had in the past and still have. Ireland has been part of the UK in modern history for longer than it hasn't and we share the same language and similar culture. It's slightly different from an international student from Colombia who is here for 6 months to study. Do you think Scottish are foreigners too or are they ok until they get independence? I have an Irish, a US and a UK passport... is it ok for me to talk about foreigners or is it restricted to my country of birth or the county where I spent the most years?
I have no bee in my bonnet, whatever that means. Much as I love London, I am a foreigner here. Being Irish and all. As for the Scots; some see themselves as fiercely independent already. Some don't.
Anyway, I agree that the standard is not up to the standards we are used to. But most here don't see the bar trade as a career and decent staff are hard to find, British, Irish or otherwise. Which is why I always return to pubs where the staff are up to the gig.
Which reminds me, a mate was visiting once and when the girl poured him a Guinness in one go, without time to settle - he said to her that if she did that back home, she'd be out on her ear. She told him "you're in London, now". Not the answer one expects 0 -
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