After Hours, how will I annoy this scammer?

PizzamanIRL

I put an ad on Adverts for my tablet *cough cough brand new only bought it yesterday but it doesn't suit my needs* and I got a message from an international number saying

Do u still have the phone for sale?,what is the condition contact me back on xxxxxxxx@ymail.com because i dont have unlimited text messages. Thanks visit S L I P SMS.COM

Everything about this looks dodgy so I googled his email address and I saw someone from Donedeal was scammed 4 days ago on payapl by the same person. Turns out its a fella from Nigeria, shocker.

I was just going to ignore the message but I said I'd ask AH what yee think I should say to string him along thinking I'm going to send it to him.

Princess Zelda

You ought to be able to get some inspiration from http://www.419eater.com/

Stupid signs to prove they're legitimate etc.

RoyalMarine

do what that other guy did a few years back with the mac where he ended up getting the scammer to pay customs charges etc and all he got was a box of junk.

Lapin

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

I was just going to ignore the message but I said I'd ask AH what yee think I should say to string him along thinking I'm going to send it to him.

You managed to think that much out for yourself.

I'd leave it at that.

ScumLord

Brake into his house, tie him to a chair and flick him in the forehead for at least 12 hours.

Sauve

Unleash Zaph on him.

keithclancy

Shít into a vacuum pack bag and tell him to pay postage for the 'Tablet'

PizzamanIRL

I replied saying its in perfect condition blah blah blah and he replied

thank for the fasdt reply kindly let me know your last price for the item any reduction on the price on the add hope to hear from you soon

I told him €120, he replied

Thanks for the response. I would have loved doing this transaction face to face but am currently on duty inside a ship at the sea in UK as a naval officer. I will be pay you 170.00euro which include Shipment and handling of the package to my SON as a gift and i will like it to be shipped via ANPOST REGISTERED Mail .Get back to me with your confirmed Paypal email address for payment. If you don't have a Paypal account, go to www.paypal.com and set up one and get back to me. Its free, reliable, fast, convenient and secured for online payment.so that i can go ahead with the payment use it to request money directly from my paypal account which is xxxxxxxxxx@ymail.com once I receive your money request from paypal, I will submit payment to you immediately via paypal asap.Still awaiting your response.
Regards

Hmmm it looks pretty legit. Looks like I have my tablet sold to some navy hero's son.

ITS_A_BADGER

Is his name Huston kelly by any chance?

curlzy

keithclancy wrote: »

Shít into a vacuum pack bag and tell him to pay postage for the 'Tablet'

I second this : ) tee hee

UCDVet

I can empathize with what you're trying to do....but you won't actually annoy him.

He's got template e-mails for every step of the transaction. Whenever you start going 'off track' with excuses or delays, it'll take him a few seconds to read your e-mail and write back some crap. He doesn't care.

He'll read your e-mail, respond, and go to the next. Even in the 'extreme' examples, where people get the scammer to pose in a picture with a rabbit or whatever else I've seen, we're still looking at just a few minutes of their time. They aren't risking anything. And when you don't send them money, they aren't really losing anything.

Scam him out of a few hundred euro or get him arrested...but short of that, he's just lol'ing to the bank.

johnwest288

Anyway you can get him to lodge a holding deposit in your paypal account and withdraw it?:cool:

Bummer1234

Send him a panadol...Thats the tablet!!

gobnaitolunacy

Send him a Trocaire box.

UrbanSea

Send him anthrax

seamus

Princess Zelda wrote: »

You ought to be able to get some inspiration from http://www.419eater.com/

Stupid signs to prove they're legitimate etc.

I'm still torn over some of the things they do on that site.

Basically it's no-holds-barred. They will try and get scammers to do anything and everything, from holding up silly signs, to having ridiculous tattoos done across the scammer's forehead.

The most extreme one I read is where the "scammee" posed as a missionary in the most godforsaken war-torn hellhole he could think of, saying how delighted he was about the money and how he could use it to rescue orphans and help save lives.
He managed to convince the scammer to send two guys (one of whom was the scammer's nephew) into this warzone to collect their booty. By the time the scammer realised he was being scammed, he had lost contact with the two guys (probably captured and shot dead) and his family were trying to hunt him down for getting his nephew killed.

The "scammee" justifies this by reminding the reader that the scammers were knowingly trying to scam thousands of dollars from a charity providing humanitarian relief in a warzone, and therefore are not worthy of pity, but it still doesn't sit well with me for some reason.

Or, and I know this is going to sound absolutely crazy, do nothing and report them as a scammer so the Adverts team can do something about it?

daveyeh

Sell him this guys car...

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056855667

PizzamanIRL

Deleted User wrote: »

Or, and I know this is going to sound absolutely crazy, do nothing and report them as a scammer so the Adverts team can do something about it?

WHAT? Get out with that crazy talk.

Cabaal

RoyalMarine wrote: »

do what that other guy did a few years back with the mac where he ended up getting the scammer to pay customs charges etc and all he got was a box of junk.

For those that don't know what this is

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/p-p-p-powerbook

MaxSteele

Why is the world still allowing Nigerian internet traffic to communicate with the outside world ?

ScumLord

If he has a tape deck in his house put fish fingers in them. It'll take him ages to find them.

seamus

MaxSteele wrote: »

Why is the world still allowing Nigerian internet traffic to communicate with the outside world ?

Lots of it doesn't even originate from Nigeria. Internet cafes, free wifi points and call shops are the big source for these mails.

mloc123

seamus wrote: »

I'm still torn over some of the things they do on that site.

Basically it's no-holds-barred. They will try and get scammers to do anything and everything, from holding up silly signs, to having ridiculous tattoos done across the scammer's forehead.

The most extreme one I read is where the "scammee" posed as a missionary in the most godforsaken war-torn hellhole he could think of, saying how delighted he was about the money and how he could use it to rescue orphans and help save lives.
He managed to convince the scammer to send two guys (one of whom was the scammer's nephew) into this warzone to collect their booty. By the time the scammer realised he was being scammed, he had lost contact with the two guys (probably captured and shot dead) and his family were trying to hunt him down for getting his nephew killed.

The "scammee" justifies this by reminding the reader that the scammers were knowingly trying to scam thousands of dollars from a charity providing humanitarian relief in a warzone, and therefore are not worthy of pity, but it still doesn't sit well with me for some reason.

Any idea which one that is?

PizzamanIRL

I told him I can't do it through Paypal so then he suggested Western Union

wouldn't you mind if i will be paying you through western union if you agreed on that kindly send me your address so that i can proceed with the payment asap...thanks

Just curious how do they scam through Western Union?

seamus

mloc123 wrote: »

Any idea which one that is?

http://www.419eater.com/html/RoadToChadDarfur/

seamus

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

I told him I can't do it through Paypal so then he suggested Western Union
Just curious how do they scam through Western Union?

Western Union is effectively untraceable and completely unreversible. So while a paypal payment or other payment on your credit card can be reversed when you realise you've been scammed, a western union transfer is as close as you can get to sending cash, and once the recipient has collected the payment, it's gone.

PizzamanIRL

seamus wrote: »

Western Union is effectively untraceable and completely unreversible. So while a paypal payment or other payment on your credit card can be reversed when you realise you've been scammed, a western union transfer is as close as you can get to sending cash, and once the recipient has collected the payment, it's gone.

But doesn't he have to send the money first since he's asking for my address, no?

seamus

Well, he doesn't need your address to send you money so I wouldn't give him that for a start. To send you money, all he needs is the location that you're going to pick up the money and your name.

If you want to go ahead with it and try and extract some cash from him, then find yourself some random agent that's not too near your home or your work.
https://www.westernunion.ie/WUCOMWEB/staticMid.do?pagename=agentLocator&method=load&nextSecurePage=Y

Tell him to send the money to that agent. Don't let him choose the agent. Chances are he'll supply you with a phony transfer ID and a link to a phony tracking site, tell you that it takes 3 days for the funds to go through but ask you to send the phone ASAP.

Bring the transfer ID to the agent after the 3 days have passed and I can guarantee you they will have no record of it.

wonderfulname

MaxSteele wrote: »

Why is the world still allowing Nigerian internet traffic to communicate with the outside world ?

Most of them aren't coming from Nigeria, a lot of them say they are to filter out anyone but the most gullible and innocent as for most people seeing the words Nigeria and money in an email set off alarm bells, or a fit of laughter, it makes the scam easier.

jmayo

seamus wrote: »

Western Union is effectively untraceable and completely unreversible. So while a paypal payment or other payment on your credit card can be reversed when you realise you've been scammed, a western union transfer is as close as you can get to sending cash, and once the recipient has collected the payment, it's gone.

I reckon there must be a huge number of Western Union outlets in Nigeria and they must be the busiest in the world.;)

efb

Send him a Xanax, no wait, send me the Xanax, shight in the parcel

Oranage2

You can always check the emails ip for location, Google can show you how.

PizzamanIRL

seamus wrote: »

Well, he doesn't need your address to send you money so I wouldn't give him that for a start. To send you money, all he needs is the location that you're going to pick up the money and your name.

If you want to go ahead with it and try and extract some cash from him, then find yourself some random agent that's not too near your home or your work.
https://www.westernunion.ie/WUCOMWEB/staticMid.do?pagename=agentLocator&method=load&nextSecurePage=Y

Tell him to send the money to that agent. Don't let him choose the agent. Chances are he'll supply you with a phony transfer ID and a link to a phony tracking site, tell you that it takes 3 days for the funds to go through but ask you to send the phone ASAP.

Bring the transfer ID to the agent after the 3 days have passed and I can guarantee you they will have no record of it.

Thanks I'll give it a shot and see what happens.

I don't want to scam a scammer though. If, although highly unlikely, he sends the money then I'll send him the tablet.

onemorechance

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

Thanks I'll give it a shot and see what happens.

I don't want to scam a scammer though. If, although highly unlikely, he sends the money then I'll send him the tablet.

He won't! Why don't you set up a new paypal account and see how he tries to get cash out of you after that?

ScouseMouse

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Sauve wrote: »

Unleash Zaph on him.

No, Dudara is who you need.

PizzamanIRL

onemorechance wrote: »

He won't! Why don't you set up a new paypal account and see how he tries to get cash out of you after that?

Not bothered going through all that Paypal stuff waiting days just for them to confirm your details etc.

onemorechance

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

Not bothered going through all that Paypal stuff waiting days just for them to confirm your details etc.

OK, I thought it was instant setup.

PizzamanIRL

What a thoughtful father

I have just remitted payment to you via western union and I also paid western union charges to ensure you get full payment.so Kindly ship the item directly to my son as soon as possible and write on the package..."A GIFT FROM YOUR "DAD".



TUNDE AFOLABI.
PLOT 2 ,ROAD 1
ADEBISI LAYOUT
IBADAN ,OYO STATE
23402
Nigeria.
He is presently working with one Telecommunication Company over there.Kindly ship the Item directly to him via ANPOST REGISTERED. FOR with the note "A GIFT FROM YOUR "DAD" boldly written on the body of the package
Thanks and nice buying from you

PizzamanIRL

I got this horrible, most unrealistic, hard on the eyes confirmation email from his gimmick Western Union email address.

I checked the rates for sending something to Nigeria via Registered post and it's only €5.17. I might send him something stupid just to get his hopes up thinking he's actually tracking the tablet online.

I don't know how some people get scammed by these type of idiots.

Dear xxxxxx,


[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif] T[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]his is to notify you that an Online Western Union Payment of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif][FONT=arial, sans-serif]€170.00 EUR[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif][FONT=arial, sans-serif] has being sent on behalf of Mr [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif][FONT=arial, sans-serif]james brown[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif] whose email address is ([FONT=arial, sans-serif]xxxxxxxxxx@ymail.com[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=arial, sans-serif]) and is ready for pickup in any [/FONT]Western Union[FONT=arial, sans-serif] Outlet in your Country. The buyer paid for [/FONT][FONT=arial, sans-serif]# ([/FONT]Tablet[FONT=arial, sans-serif])[/FONT][FONT=arial, sans-serif], Below are your details. The said amount includes shipping cost and Insurance. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]WE WANT YOU TO CONFIRM THE MTCN AND THE SENDER NAME AT OUR WEBSITE WWW.WESTERNUNION.COM FOR YOU TO KNOW THAT THE TRANSACTION IS CONFIRM BY OUR COMPANY[/FONT]
MTCN:153394****

SENDER NAME: james brown

[FONT=arial, sans-serif]Secret question: [/FONT][FONT=arial, sans-serif]What was your first pet's name[/FONT]
[FONT=arial, sans-serif]Answer : [/FONT]puppy




[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Seller's Details:[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]
[/FONT]
[FONT=arial, sans-serif]Receiver's:[/FONT]xxxxxxx
[FONT=arial, sans-serif]address:[/FONT]Monasterevin Post Office,Main Street

Country: Monasterevin,co.kildare,ireland

[FONT=arial, sans-serif]Email Address[/FONT][FONT=arial, sans-serif]: [/FONT]
[FONT=arial, sans-serif]xxxxxxxx@live.ie[/FONT][FONT=arial, sans-serif],[/FONT]

ITS_A_BADGER

uhh you might want to take out your address there chief

PizzamanIRL

I don't live in the post office.

That's the address I gave him of the nearest Western Union place.

ITS_A_BADGER

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

I don't live in the post office.

That's the address I gave him of the nearest Western Union place.

ah my bad

athlonelad

ITS_A_BADGER wrote: »

ah my bad

He lives in the pizza place obviously

Bipolar Joe

SENDER NAME: james brown

http://wamu.org/sites/wamu.org/files/styles/headline_landscape/public/images/attach/12.25.12art-beat-james-brown-mug-shot.jpg

PizzamanIRL

I love his security question answer.

face1990

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

I love his security question answer.

I can just see it now... little James Brown awakes on christmas morning to find a little doggy under the christmas tree, "I'll call him.... puppy!"

Pat Mustard

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

What a thoughtful father

Kindly ship the Item directly to him via ANPOST REGISTERED. FOR with the note "A GIFT FROM YOUR "DAD" boldly written on the body of the package
Thanks and nice buying from you

I assume that this instruction is to avoid Nigerian Customs/Import duties on the basis of it being a gift.

Therefore, perhaps the shipment would incur duties if you write "Handle with care: contains fragile electronic equipment", also "Sender: Electronics Sales Ireland Ltd.", and also "Sale price: €170.00". I'm guessing that the scammer may get suspicious if you list the value as being any higher than that, though.

Maybe a cheap €2 Tesco calculator could go in the package, to make it look slightly more legitimate, should Nigerian Customs inspect it (for instance, if the scammer makes a complaint to them that he shouldn't have to pay duty on a gift from his father).

In the old Macbook reverse scam story, wasn't there an awkward moment where the 'scammee' thought that he might be forced to pay duties/charges, if the scammer didn't pay them?

areyawell

Cop on that's how, its a automatic response. If you reply your the dope, lads like them send hundreds of emails a day and also have hundreds of stock emails to send. Your wasting your own time.

Irish Guitarist

Go back in time and kill both of his parents before they conceive him.

PizzamanIRL

areyawell wrote: »

Cop on that's how, its a automatic response. If you reply your the dope, lads like them send hundreds of emails a day and also have hundreds of stock emails to send. Your wasting your own time.

He sent his fair share of manually typed emails along with the template ones.

I'm not a fool im getting 170 off this chap when i only asked for 120!