Ubuntu for phones

Khannie

20 minute long video, only 15 of which I've watched so far, but this looks like a very cool alternative to android. I'm hoping it can dock and become a full on Linux PC. If that were the case I would dump android in a heartbeat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpWHJDLsqTU

PogMoThoin

Khannie wrote: »

20 minute long video, only 15 of which I've watched so far, but this looks like a very cool alternative to android. I'm hoping it can dock and become a full on Linux PC. If that were the case I would dump android in a heartbeat.

I think that's the plan, are they working on two versions the full Ubuntu phone just announced today and Ubuntu for Android they announced last year?
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone

I'd also consider changing from Android

Khannie

Yeah, I thought that initially, but there was no mention of the desktop so I'm just hoping. I guess that's not the aim of the video (to advertise it to already eager Ubuntu users), but instead to get others interested in it. He did mention using the linux kernel and native apps (tasty little performance bump), so it should be handy enough for them to achieve that.

The swipe from the right idea for app switching is absolutely brilliant. I find app switching on android to be painful tbh. It's just as fast for me to go to the home screen.

shizz

Khannie wrote: »

Yeah, I thought that initially, but there was no mention of the desktop so I'm just hoping. I guess that's not the aim of the video (to advertise it to already eager Ubuntu users), but instead to get others interested in it. He did mention using the linux kernel and native apps (tasty little performance bump), so it should be handy enough for them to achieve that.

The swipe from the right idea for app switching is absolutely brilliant. I find app switching on android to be painful tbh. It's just as fast for me to go to the home screen.

It is mentioned here.

Amalgam

Stumbled across some nice mainstream media coverage, courtesy of the BBC. Currently half way up the most read item chart today.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20891868

Is this distinct\different from the developer images floating around for the Nexus 7, on the Ubuntu site, or part of the same work?

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation

I can't wait till things are more polished, along with, hopefully, favourites of mine, like Mint, tagging along..

bpb101

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/01/c...t-make-inroads

CNN don't think its worth the bother
The CNN article by Adrian Covert can be seen here

one interesting thing is that this ubuntu smartphone will use all of the screen and this is great. However, Why dont android and iOS? The first thing that comes to mind is adverts. On the bottom of the screen and top of iphones there are ads. Where will be the ads in the Ubuntu smartphone.

NO ad's? How do the developers make their money? - charge for the app?
Then we run into a bigger problem. will all apps will have to be paid for.

Its great that ubuntu is open source and this is all great but the people who make the apps aren’t. If angry bird ( just because its a free popular app) wants to go on this new ubuntu phone, then they have 3 choices - give it away for free and make no money , charge for it, dont bother

right , lets say you got to fork out the 99c or whatever it is for angry birds , boo hoo its a euro , we have 1 more problem - why would i get an ubuntu smartphone ? sure all the apps cost money!

One final comment why is the circle thing to see all apps at the bottom of the phone launcher , that’s just confusing

shizz

bpb101 wrote: »

One final comment why is the circle thing to see all apps at the bottom of the phone launcher , that’s just confusing

I presume its at the bottom rather than the top, as it is on Ubuntu, because your thumb can reach there easily.

bpb101

shizz wrote: »

I presume its at the bottom rather than the top, as it is on Ubuntu, because your thumb can reach there easily.

i would change that if i could , maybe we can, if it actual comes out

shizz

bpb101 wrote: »

i would change that if i could , maybe we can, if it actual comes out

To the top? Why? I'd imagine you would be holding it with one hand most of the time. You'd have to stretch much further for that.

Zascar

I just watched that video and wow that looks exciting! Can't wait until this comes out. If you have a nexus 7 you can get it soon but what about the other Android phones? I'd love to try it on my HTC One X.

PogMoThoin

Zascar wrote: »

I just watched that video and wow that looks exciting! Can't wait until this comes out. If you have a nexus 7 you can get it soon but what about the other Android phones? I'd love to try it on my HTC One X.

Nexus 4? The Nexus 7 is a tablet

Zascar

Sorry yes - the phone not the tablet

bpb101

Zascar wrote: »

I just watched that video and wow that looks exciting! Can't wait until this comes out. If you have a nexus 7 you can get it soon but what about the other Android phones? I'd love to try it on my HTC One X.

The Nexus 7 installer installes a desktop enviroment. not a phone enviroment.
Have a look at this video if you want ubuntu on your phone,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0PNsnNe3E0

Also , first review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLtcj7FdIYA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXWnMTm7We8

bpb101

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO7QbCqFY7Y

Squeaky the Squirrel

Ubuntu Phones Will Arrive in October

Khannie

I wonder when we'll see beta / early adopters / whatever you want to call it. GIVE IT TO ME NOW!

PogMoThoin

Dammit I want it too, getting tired of Android, need something new

Squeaky the Squirrel

Ubuntu for phones to arrive next week on Nexus 4

^preview

Khannie

Have a friend with a nexus 4. Going to try and convince him to install this.

Freddy Smelly

ubuntu for phones will only run on quad core phones. it was tried on dual core phones but it had to be scrapped because the phones would take far too long to load anything.

Freddy Smelly

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Dammit I want it too, getting tired of Android, need something new

android is basically linux based. so you wont see a huge difference tbh.

PogMoThoin

Freddy Smelly wrote: »

android is basically linux based. so you wont see a huge difference tbh.

I think you're wrong tbh, although both are linux based, Ubuntu and Android couldn't be further apart.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/01/why-mark-shuttleworth-thinks-ubuntu-on-phones-will-outclass-android/

KTRIC

If its running on the Nexus 4 then you can bet someone will port it over to the S3

PogMoThoin

KTRIC wrote: »

If its running on the Nexus 4 then you can bet someone will port it over to the S3

That's exactly what the Ubuntu team are hoping for. Shouldn't take long either, Samsung hardware is open source and they also open sourced the S3 software so all the tools are available to make it work.

Khannie

Khannie wrote: »

Have a friend with a nexus 4. Going to try and convince him to install this.

Effortlessly convinced. I'll report back what its like on launch day.

bpb101

Tick, tock, tablet time!

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Khannie

bpb101 wrote: »

Tick, tock, tablet time!

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Interesting. Interesting indeed.

PogMoThoin

bpb101 wrote: »

Tick, tock, tablet time!

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What could that be, Shuttleworth said they were concentrating on phones for now and Android tablets later. I reckon it's a version for M$ Surface tablets

bpb101

for these things i always have a stab in the dark and i am going to say it a tablet pre installed with ubuntu.

second guess, they are going to show us what the phone that is going to be brought out in october will be.

going with the tablet thou.

bpb101

i had a look at the page source code and there nothing behind it, ie, when that clock hits zero , like the ubuntu phone countdown , nothing happens. There will have to be somebody on ubuntu side to change the web page, manually.

The Phone sdk will be out the 21st so it aint that btw

Squeaky the Squirrel

Canonical to announce Ubuntu tablet OS tomorrow

28064212

bpb101 wrote: »

i had a look at the page source code and there nothing behind it, ie, when that clock hits zero , like the ubuntu phone countdown , nothing happens. There will have to be somebody on ubuntu side to change the web page, manually.

That.... that's just not how it works. At all.

bpb101

28064212 wrote: »

That.... that's just not how it works. At all.

care to explain then?
As in previous countdown clocks from ubuntu they hit zero and stay at zero until they are changed manually. The last time the page was so overloaded they couldnt change it

so, care to explain?, if you can find the hidden link , please feel free to share it with the rest of us

bpb101

Squeaky the Squirrel wrote: »

Canonical to announce Ubuntu tablet OS tomorrow

the bubbles , which have became a symbol of the ubuntu phone os , look like they will make a re appearances at 6 pm. They should have left a bit more of a mystery to this one, i hope they come up with something crazy like ubuntu drugs.(i dont know)

28064212

bpb101 wrote: »

care to explain then?
As in previous countdown clocks from ubuntu they hit zero and stay at zero until they are changed manually.

You mean until the page is refreshed? That doesn't mean it's updated manually, that means it's automatically updated server-side

bpb101 wrote: »

The last time the page was so overloaded they couldnt change it

No, it was so overloaded that only a certain amount of people could access it at the time. Again, nothing to do with manually changing anything.

bpb101 wrote: »

so, care to explain?, if you can find the hidden link , please feel free to share it with the rest of us

There's no hidden link. What would be the point of a countdown if anybody could just hit Ctrl+U and find out all about it?

bpb101

So... Htc making a big annoucement today
And the Theroys are off.

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> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/02/htc-ubuntu-countdown-sync-fuels-tablet-speculation

bpb101

yeap it's a tablets os , but i must say it looks really nice.
I could go on but somebody else could tell you.

PogMoThoin

That looks amazing

bpb101

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=83294882

Khannie

Khannie wrote: »

Effortlessly convinced. I'll report back what its like on launch day.

Well, today is launch day. This little ditty came with the launch:

In rare circumstances, the Nexus4 may get into a state where it may not boot at all after the battery is drained ( even into recovery ). If this happens, the only way to restore it is to disassemble the back of the phone and unplug/plug the battery connector.

....aaaand therefore there will be no install at the moment.

MC_G

Well, I think I'll be holding off as well with that little nugget. The last thing I want is to disassemble the N4.

I can't wait to give this a shot though, maybe I'll get the nexus 7 Ive wanted...

bpb101

only took a day to get it on the s3
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/02/ubuntu-phone-up-running-on-samsung-galaxy-s3

bpb101

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bpb101

If and when we all fúck up your phones and tablets completely , here is how to get android back on them so we can claim the garentee and pretend nothing has happed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfkmxvWVL7s

bpb101

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/02/how-to-install-ubuntu-phone-tablet-preview-on-nexus-devices

bpb101

this was gave to ubuntu at mwc
https://twitter.com/silbs/status/306434650895708161/photo/1

Khannie

They're releasing the developer version for a bunch of new phones including some not so high end ones (like the Huawei Ascend G300 which is very popular here).

http://www.slashgear.com/ubuntu-touch-to-launch-developer-preview-on-over-20-more-devices-26271633/

bpb101

Khannie wrote: »

They're releasing the developer version for a bunch of new phones including some not so high end ones (like the Huawei Ascend G300 which is very popular here).

http://www.slashgear.com/ubuntu-touch-to-launch-developer-preview-on-over-20-more-devices-26271633/

Sounds good. Its Hard to justifying spending 500 euros on a nexus phone simple just to format it.:)

Zascar

Saying that, i'm due an upgrade soon and my choice will heavily depend on the ability to have multiple os's on it, Mainly ubuntu but I would quite like to give Firefox a bash too.

Khannie

bpb101 wrote: »

Sounds good. Its Hard to justifying spending 500 euros on a nexus phone simple just to format it.:)

They're actually a shed load cheaper than that. I can't remember what the actual figure is, but from memory I think it's around 350 all in for the cheapest one. They have 2G of RAM too, which is nice if you're considering using it as a desktop OS. I can confirm that desktop Linux works just dandy with 2G of RAM.

PogMoThoin

Khannie wrote: »

They're actually a shed load cheaper than that. I can't remember what the actual figure is, but from memory I think it's around 350 all in for the cheapest one.

Way off, the Nexus 4 is $299 in the States, that's a little over €230. It works out at about €270 if you go through the UK and Parcel Motel