Toilet Attendents

FTA69

So there I was last night, enjoying myself in a club as one does, when at the end of the night I pop into the jacks one last time before getting on the train. After the quick post-urinal hand rinse in the sink (one must be fastidious nowadays) the African lad in there starts shouting and roaring as I walk off. "Excuse me! You didn't tip me all night! All night! That is bullsh*t!" etc and he actually follows me out of the toilet in order to continue his rant. The lights are on and everyone is leaving at this stage. I politely pointed out that I didn't use any of his stuff the whole night, and neither did I use the stack of towels he'd accumulated next to him. Furthermore, I'm not going to pay the guts of £5 for a drink and then pay him to go for a bloody p*ss on top of it. I also pointed out that if he didn't like that he could go back into his toilet and sh*t for himself. Now I'm not trying to give it the big man, I prefer not to be dealing with this sort of confrontation at the end of a night out. Least of all with some random stranger shouting and roaring at me in a corridor full of other random strangers. Having done the doors in nightclubs for yonks I don't really like socialising in them, this carry on only reinforces that for me.

I don't know what to make of the whole phenomenon to be honest. I used to think it was just some sort of explicitly racist excess of the boom where people loved to have some African provide them with hand towels in some sort of mock-up of the slave period. However having been a bouncer I met loads of these lads, most of the time they came out with more money than the head of security (and we were on a good rate) for the simple matter of scrubbing the jacks and throwing lollypops to p*ssheads. They were also handy for us because they were a spare pair of eyes in the jacks to monitor any fights/drug use etc. Still though, I remain uneasy about this lark to be honest and when I'm out myself I just find they make me awkward and uncomfortable when I'm simply trying to use the facilities.

Any thoughts?

TL/DR version - African fella in the jacks shouting at me for not giving him money? What's the dealio?

IM0

FTA69 wrote:

Any thoughts?

yeah tldr

Celly Smunt

Remember those machines you put 10p into to get a spray of aftershave that smelt like engine oil and tore the skin like sandpaper.I miss those.

XxKathyxX

FTA69 wrote: »

So there I was last night, enjoying myself in a club as one does, when at the end of the night I pop into the jacks one last time before getting on the train. After the quick post-urinal hand rinse in the sink (one must be fastidious nowadays) the African lad in there starts shouting and roaring as I walk off. "Excuse me! You didn't tip me all night! All night! That is bullsh*t!" etc and he actually follows me out of the toilet in order to continue his rant. The lights are on and everyone is leaving at this stage. I politely pointed out that I didn't use any of his stuff the whole night, and neither did I use the stack of towels he'd accumulated next to him. Furthermore, I'm not going to pay the guts of £5 for a drink and then pay him to go for a bloody p*ss on top of it. I also pointed out that if he didn't like that he could go back into his toilet and sh*t for himself. Now I'm not trying to give it the big man, I prefer not to be dealing with this sort of confrontation at the end of a night out. Least of all with some random stranger shouting and roaring at me in a corridor full of other random strangers. Having done the doors in nightclubs for yonks I don't really like socialising in them, this carry on only reinforces that for me.

I don't know what to make of the whole phenomenon to be honest. I used to think it was just some sort of explicitly racist excess of the boom where people loved to have some African provide them with hand towels in some sort of mock-up of the slave period. However having been a bouncer I met loads of these lads, most of the time they came out with more money than the head of security (and we were on a good rate) for the simple matter of scrubbing the jacks and throwing lollypops to p*ssheads. They were also handy for us because they were a spare pair of eyes in the jacks to monitor any fights/drug use etc. Still though, I remain uneasy about this lark to be honest and when I'm out myself I just find they make me awkward and uncomfortable when I'm simply trying to use the facilities.

Any thoughts?

Dont be mean... their for diabled people!

xoxo

FTA69

IM0 wrote: »

yeah tldr

Edited for your consideration.

juan.kerr

These boyos are at again then I see.

I wonder if these lads pay tax on their 'earnings'? If not send them packing back to Nigeria.

ITS_A_BADGER

some of them think its their right to money if you go use the loo at all, but some are genuinly nice too, you cant really use one persons actions and apply it to every one else in the same position.

Tl;dr some people are dickheads others are not

mikemac1

FTA69 wrote: »

Any thoughts?

Reply from some outraged poster demanding to know why being African is relevant to your story in 3...2....1

FTA69

XxKathyxX wrote: »

Dont be mean... their for diabled people!

xoxo

F*ck are you on about? Disabled toilets are for disabled people, not poky jacks at the top of four flights of stairs aren't.

FTA69

ITS_A_BADGER wrote: »

some of them think its their right to money if you go use the loo at all, but some are genuinly nice too, you cant really use one persons actions and apply it to every one else in the same position.

Tl;dr some people are dickheads others are not

Errah I've met loads like, and it's as you say. But to be honest having some lad in the toilet looking to spray sh*t on you for money is bloody awkward and good be done without.

Sam Kade

Why didn't you ask him to turn around and then give him a running funt up the arse and say there's your tip;)

FTA69

I know "blast him with p*ss" is banned but this would probably be the one case where it would actually make sense.

Meauldsegosha

XxKathyxX wrote: »

Dont be mean... their for diabled people!

xoxo

What are you talking about??

OP I never give toilet attendants money/tip. I never use any of their stuff and when they block the hand dryer I ask them to move. But none of them have followed me out of the toilet and screamed at me and I've never seen it happen to anyone else.

IM0

africans/racism check

dole dodgers check

dissin on cleaners check

total: 2/10 troll failure..another one for today

FTA69

IM0 wrote: »

dissin on cleaners check

Eh they aren't cleaners chief, cleaners come in and clean things and leave again. They don't gradually accumulate coin and demand money for the use of a urinal.

Swing and a miss.

eyeroad yearowl one

IM0 wrote: »

africans/racism check

dole dodgers check

dissin on cleaners check

total: 2/10 troll failure..another one for today

Jaysus, don't be going mentioning any of the new sacred cows in any story that could be viewed as negative now.

I have seen plenty of black people doing toilet attendants. I don't know that they are African/Irish/American/English. Never asked them. I've never seen a white person do it. Although, maybe once, years ago in a fancy hotel. The Fitzwilliam or something. some ould fella in a "bellboy" suit.
Does it make me a racist to say that?

juan.kerr

IM0 wrote: »

africans/racism check

dole dodgers check

dissin on cleaners check

total: 2/10 troll failure..another one for today

I suppose someone must like these guys...either that or you decided to take a break from attending the toilet to defend your profession.

juan.kerr

eyeroad yearowl one wrote: »

Jaysus, don't be going mentioning any of the new sacred cows in any story that could be viewed as negative now.

I have seen plenty of black people doing toilet attendants. I don't know that they are African/Irish/American/English. Never asked them. I've never seen a white person do it. Although, maybe once, years ago in a fancy hotel. The Fitzwilliam or something. some ould fella in a "bellboy" suit.
Does it make me a racist to say that?

The usual ***te on boards. Mention the blacks and you are racist.

Agricola

I agree OP, the whole situation is ridiculous. It's bad enough to pay through the nose to actually enter the place, then pay for drink which is even more expensive, without having to fork out for the pleasure of a piss also. Hah, they charge you to put it in your bladder and charge you to get rid of it!

Sky King

Use the capper crapper, they're less likely to have fugeez in em.

philologos

OP: Where was this? £5 a drink sounds awfully expensive. (Unless you meant €5, which still is expensive)

Fanny Biscuit

Pointless and ridiculous having them there. I just ignore them completley and go about my business.

juan.kerr

The blacks in the jacks, eh?

was.deevey

Bet you didn't tip the barman either and he wasn't chasing you for a tip after serving you all night.

TheUsual

Willy watchers i call them. stupid job.

juan.kerr

was.deevey wrote: »

Bet you didn't tip the barman either and he wasn't chasing you for a tip after serving you all night.

Tip a barman? For putting some liquid in a glass?

halkar

Pi$$ in your glass. Who is gonna notice

heyheyhey1982

I was in the jacks before Christmas and I needed a bit of spray. So I threw 1.50e in the bowl and went to use Some spray. The black lad stopped me and said" no no 2euro". I said it's grand and took my 1.50 out of the bowl. I was waiting for him to kick off saying I can't take my money back, but he didn't.


The thing that annoys me is you can't wash your hands in peace any more without them handing you tissue to dry your hands. I normally wash my hands and dry them on my jeans to avoid them.

old hippy

Barely into 2013 and we have our first tedious excuse to have a go at black people and or Nigerians.

Hang around a few minutes and no doubt we'll have the first have a go at gays and or Travellers...

ITS_A_BADGER

FTA69 wrote: »

Errah I've met loads like, and it's as you say. But to be honest having some lad in the toilet looking to spray sh*t on you for money is bloody awkward and good be done without.

Well yeah i agree i do think the position should be reserved for fancier places, i mean haven someone doing the job that they do in a messy nightclub is like putting lipstick on a pig, but then again they do keep they jacks clean tho aswell theres nothing worse that trying to sh1t in a toilet that the sitting part is sprayed with someone elses p1ss or that someone else missed the toilet after dropping their load and having to wipe that off with a tissue when you want to use the facilities next, So yeah its sort of a win/lose situation unless the club/pub has some sort of system where they check the toilet every x mins to make sure the facilities are clean. Having one of those attendance mean its looked after most of the time. but they need to stop hounding you for money

dirtyden

FTA69 wrote: »

IM0 wrote: »

Eh they aren't cleaners chief, cleaners come in and clean things and leave again. They don't gradually accumulate coin and demand money for the use of a urinal.

Swing and a miss.

You said in your original post they scrubbed the Jacks?

I have never heard of anyone else getting grief for not tipping these toilet attendant guys. I sometimes tip and sometimes dont. I have never seen any of them actually as much as request a tip. You are right though I would much prefer not to have an attendant there, it is a bit uncomfortable washing your hands with some guy trying to put soap on and then hand you paper towels that you have not requested especially if you are lacking in change.

o1s1n

old hippy wrote: »

Barely into 2013 and we have our first tedious excuse to have a go at black people and or Nigerians.

Hang around a few minutes and no doubt we'll have the first have a go at gays and or Travellers...

Actually I see this as being the first positive step in 2013. If we can get these eejits out of our jacks this year I'll be a very happy man.

Froyo

o1s1n wrote: »

Actually I see this as being the first positive step in 2013. If we can get these eejits out of our jacks this year I'll be a very happy man.

Off you go then.

Or are you just going to do the Irish thing and have a good whinge on the internet...;)

old hippy

o1s1n wrote: »

Actually I see this as being the first positive step in 2013. If we can get these eejits out of our jacks this year I'll be a very happy man.

Just what the economy needs, make more people jobless. Ah suren, good oul Ireland, still going backwards and forwards at the same time. :rolleyes:

juan.kerr

Froyo wrote: »

Off you go then.

Or are you just going to do the Irish thing and have a good whinge on the internet...;)

Well if we all chip in for the one way plane tickets we can stamp this disease out in our lifetime.

old hippy

juan.kerr wrote: »

Well if we all chip in for the one way plane tickets we can stamp this disease out in our lifetime.

What or who are you referring to as a "disease"?

Gauss

OP next time pretend you are racist and say you don't believe black people should be paid as they are the white man's natural slave.

Richard Hillman

Write a strongly worded letter to the owner or manager of the premises. Tell him/her that you and your friends won't be returning to the premises again until attendants are permanently removed.

Pottler

"Sir, can I be of assistance?"

"Nope, I got this, been doing it on my own for years, thanks anyway":)

juan.kerr

old hippy wrote: »

Just what the economy needs, make more people jobless. Ah suren, good oul Ireland, still going backwards and forwards at the same time. :rolleyes:

You think these lads pay tax on their earnings? They are already claiming social welfare...

mackeire

Unless he wipes my ar5e for me, he ain't getting a penny!!

FTA69

I'm nearly sorry to have brought this up to begin with.

I am not "having a go" at Africans and to be honest I'm not going into a spiel to justify myself as not being a racist or whatever. Nothing in my original post is racist, if anything I was saying there might be a concept of latent racism in having them there in the first place. If you can read my post and come to the conclusion that I hate black people then fair play, you're obviously adept at coming to conclusions that don't bloody exist.

I'm not annoyed at Africans, I'm annoyed at the arsehole who started shouting at me for not giving him money as a matter of standard. I'm also annoyed at the concept of a fella standing in the jacks making people awkward. I acknowledge the fact these lads are after a few pound, and I begrudge nobody that. All I'm saying is that this particular "job" is a stupid bloody concept!

If you can take that as "racism" then I would suggest you need to cop the f*ck on.

Death and Taxes

juan.kerr wrote: »

You think these lads pay tax on their earnings? They are already claiming social welfare...

Evidence that they are on SW, or is that just your own opinion?

Death and Taxes

juan.kerr wrote: »

Well if we all chip in for the one way plane tickets we can stamp this disease out in our lifetime.

What disease is cured by a plane ticket? enlighten us please

Praetorian Saighdiuir

Ah I don't mind these guys*, but then again, I have never been chased out of a toilet and verbally abused and humiliated in front of people by one* either.

Il always be friendly to them*, ask them* a few polite questions, throw them* a bit of change and head on my way....with a pocket full of lollypops for the ladies.


* denotes "toilet attendants" - before anyone accuses me of being racist.

old hippy

juan.kerr wrote: »

You think these lads pay tax on their earnings? They are already claiming social welfare...

And you know this how?

juan.kerr

old hippy wrote: »

What or who are you referring to as a "disease"?

Definition for disease:

A particular quality, habit, or disposition regarded as adversely affecting a person or group of people.

I think plenty on here would regard this phenomenon as a disease, since the 'habit' of these lads residing in the jacks 'adversely affects' the patrons of the pub.

juan.kerr

old hippy wrote: »

And you know this how?

Common sense for a start. Do they give receipts? Ask the lad next time.

old hippy

juan.kerr wrote: »

Definition for disease:



I think plenty on here would regard this phenomenon as a disease, since the 'habit' of these lads residing in the jacks 'adversely affects' the patrons of the pub.

Oh, I'm sure there are plenty on boards who would no doubt see black people as a disease or disease carriers, yes. But they don't usually last very long here.

juan.kerr

WileyCoyote wrote: »

What disease is cured by a plane ticket? enlighten us please

See my definiton above. Seems apt.

old hippy

juan.kerr wrote: »

Common sense for a start. Do they give receipts? Ask the lad next time.

I see no "common sense" in your statement. Again, where is your proof?