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Why does it bother others so much that you don't drink?

  • 30-12-2012 10:30pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19


    I am 23 and I last drank when I was 21. When I met new people I get the same reaction when they discover I don't drink,

    1) They stare wide-eyed at me, with an expression on their face as if I just told them I have just been let out of prison for murder.
    2) They say ''SERIOUSLY?'' about 5 times
    3) They ask me why repeatedly.


    When I answer people and tell them I don't like drinking, they feel the need to probe and probe and keep asking me ''why, no seriously why?, you're messin', seriously though why?''

    I find this irritating and rude. Why does it bother people so much that we don't drink?:(


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Merch


    people are so used to conforming in virtually every aspect, if anyone breaks that pattern, then they are genuinely shocked because they simply cant conceive of any other way of doing things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,095 ✭✭✭Liamario


    I am 23 and I last drank when I was 21. When I met new people I get the same reaction when they discover I don't drink,

    1) They stare wide-eyed at me, with an expression on their face as if I just told them I have just been let out of prison for murder.
    2) They say ''SERIOUSLY?'' about 5 times
    3) They ask me why repeatedly.


    When I answer people and tell them I don't like drinking, they feel the need to probe and probe and keep asking me ''why, no seriously why?, you're messin', seriously though why?''

    I find this irritating and rude. Why does it bother people so much that we don't drink?:(

    Been there. As you get older and the people you befriend get older, it becomes a moot point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 bluemetwo


    Have to disagree there, I haven't drank either since I was in my mid twenties (I am 43 now) and still find that people are shocked when I tell them I don't drink. The most annoying ones are those who insist on buying you a drink anyway and assume you will drink it. If I wanted a drink I would have asked for one !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭burke027


    I get the same reaction also. I gave up drinking when herself got pregnant and the little lad is now 2 and I'm still off it. Infact I doubt il ever drink again as I have no intrest in it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 Dare2baDaniel


    It is the interrogation you get when you say you don't drink that I find annoying. It is a personal choice so I don't see how it is appropriate for others to question me over my choice. Part of it is probably my age group, for once I would love to turn around and tell them why I don't drink.

    Stranger: "why don't you drink? why? you're s**** craic"
    Me: "Because I am a recovered alcoholic"
    Stranger: *shocked silence*


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭messrs


    omg this annoys me so much!! im the same , dont have any interest in drinking and people in my job know this but yet every monday insist on asking me if i drank over the weekend, or if one of the girls is having a bad day she will say to me that she cant wait to get home and have a glass of wine and will then ask me if im going to have one when i get home!! its all the time and no matter how many times i tell them i dont drink they still ask me if i was drinking over the weekend or if i say i have a party or event coming up they will ask me if i plan on getting drunk! very frustrating - some people just dont get that others dont want to drink!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 bluemetwo


    Daniel if I was you that's exactly what I would do !! Soon teach them not to be so flamin nosey !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 981 ✭✭✭barney 20v


    I have been called socially inept for being a non drinker, I grew up in a non drinking house so its perfectly normal to me not to drink.
    My other half claims it to be a major factor in her wanting to have a relationship with me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭markbld65


    bluemetwo wrote: »
    Have to disagree there, I haven't drank either since I was in my mid twenties (I am 43 now) and still find that people are shocked when I tell them I don't drink. The most annoying ones are those who insist on buying you a drink anyway and assume you will drink it. If I wanted a drink I would have asked for one !!

    same as you,

    i'm in my late 40's and get exactly the same thing, get invited to a lot of company social events but prefer to not go as its all a drinking fest and enjoy the company of my family to be honest
    usually get aw did you have a problem with the auld drink so ya cant drink now, nope i just prefer not to drink cant see the point in it for me and then they usually say so whats wrong with ya then lol

    dont mind someone having a drink fair play to them but for me its a waste of time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭Bassfish


    Here's one for ye,
    My brother in law's mother passed away recently. He doesn't drink, his mam didn't drink and and his Dad didn't drink. There was the usual thing after the funeral upstairs in a pub, finger food and what not. My brother in law's cousin whom he hadn't seen in years comes up to him;
    Mick will ya have a pint?
    No thanks, I'll have a coke though,
    A coke, why aren't ya drinking, today of all days?
    I don't drink, I'm a teetotaller!
    Ah Jesus not another one in the family, what's wrong with all of ye?

    Brother in law bites his tongue and walks away.
    I thought it really shows the messed up attitude many irish people have about drink.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,607 ✭✭✭toastedpickles


    I'm 21 and don't drink, I tell lads my age and all that I don't and they react as if I've commited the biggest crime known to man, one guy even threatened to "bate" me if I didn't start

    I really don't know why it effects other people so much, it's like if you don't drink you're automatically "no craic"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭SolarFlash


    It's a fear thing, your not drinking makes the drinker question their drinking and sub-consciously they know drinking is very risky and that they really shouldn't be doing it and hence the anger rage thing. Tell them to feck off.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,446 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    My first Christmas in years (apart from the year my Son was born) that I haven't partaken in the Christmas drinking and I just tell people "I prefer my life without it" which is the truth :)

    Quick and simple and it usually shuts them up :)

    On a side note.. How much better is Christmas when you're not hungover :D wow.. Loving life right now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭Felexicon


    I find people who don't drink to be a little bit boring in certain social situations. That would be the only thing the "bothers" me abount non drinkers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭markbld65


    Felexicon wrote: »
    I find people who don't drink to be a little bit boring in certain social situations. That would be the only thing the "bothers" me abount non drinkers

    lol

    you want to be among drinkers at a social event and be sober not saying its boring but its some entertainment :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭Felexicon


    markbld65 wrote: »
    lol

    you want to be among drinkers at a social event and be sober not saying its boring but its some entertainment :D
    Yeah I'd say it is crap being a non drinker at a social event, that's why I'd find it strange that someone would chose not to drink.
    It's usually the drinkers with all the best stories after a weekend


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭markbld65


    Felexicon wrote: »
    Yeah I'd say it is crap being a non drinker at a social event, that's why I'd find it strange that someone would chose not to drink.
    It's usually the drinkers with all the best stories after a weekend

    hmm sometimes then again some of the best story's i ever heard where about lads well on it lol

    horses for courses i guess, folk having a drink never bothered me why should it we all have a choice mine is not to bother with the auld drink i dont need it to have a good time,

    re your above quote, that's why I'd find it strange that someone would chose not to drink,
    had a lad work for me in the uk years back he worked his arse off all week and pissed it up the wall every weekend, we got him to save a few pound so he could at least have a holiday so off he goes to spain and spent the 2 weeks in the hotel bar

    now that's strange :D

    as i said we all have a choice you find non-drinkers strange and i sometimes find drinkers strange thats life i guess


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Felexicon wrote: »
    I find people who don't drink to be a little bit boring in certain social situations. That would be the only thing the "bothers" me abount non drinkers
    Most of the people who are boring when they don't drink are avoided when they do drink.

    Those that are good craic when they're sober are the best to be around when they're drunk.
    xzanti wrote: »
    My first Christmas in years (apart from the year my Son was born) that I haven't partaken in the Christmas drinking and I just tell people "I prefer my life without it" which is the truth :)
    I agree that this would shut up most people that I know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭Felexicon


    the_syco wrote: »
    Most of the people who are boring when they don't drink are avoided when they do drink.

    Those that are good craic when they're sober are the best to be around when they're drunk.


    I agree that this would shut up most people that I know.
    So shy people who come out of their shell after a few drinks should be avoided?

    Anyway my point is that when I'm out I find most sober people to be boring and it never seems like they're having a good time so I find it hard to understand why they wouldn't just have a few pints and chill out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 Dare2baDaniel


    Felexicon wrote: »
    So shy people who come out of their shell after a few drinks should be avoided?

    Anyway my point is that when I'm out I find most sober people to be boring and it never seems like they're having a good time so I find it hard to understand why they wouldn't just have a few pints and chill out


    It is highly likely they aren't having a good time if they are around someone with your attitude. It is sad that you need alcohol to enjoy yourself and relax. If you were confident in yourself you would not have these issues.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭markbld65


    Felexicon wrote: »
    So shy people who come out of their shell after a few drinks should be avoided?

    Anyway my point is that when I'm out I find most sober people to be boring and it never seems like they're having a good time so I find it hard to understand why they wouldn't just have a few pints and chill out

    point is having a few pints would not chill me out lol

    i dont need nor care for it same as some people like guinness and some like lager
    say for example you drink lager would you find a guinness drinker strange or would you find a drug user strange would they find anyone that does not use a heavy drug strange ?? see its personnel choice

    plenty of lads i know knock back 10 to 15 pints a night why ?? or a the weekend drink them silly and be as the phrase goes dying the next morning
    then again i smoke like a chimney but i dont find non smokers boring or strange i accept the fact they dont smoke simple

    whats boring is the fact that a person would go ot the same place night after night or weekend after weekend and do exactly the same thing eg nothing exists outside their drinking circle now that's strange to me

    you find most sober people boring i can understand that but do you thing a sober person finds you exciting !!!, trust me i have been in that situation plenty of times and i have to say i find most when they have had a few to be unbelievable boring and full of bull****

    so i guess its all personal choice again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭Felexicon


    markbld65 wrote: »
    point is having a few pints would not chill me out lol

    i dont need nor care for it same as some people like guinness and some like lager
    say for example you drink lager would you find a guinness drinker strange or would you find a drug user strange would they find anyone that does not use a heavy drug strange ?? see its personnel choice

    plenty of lads i know knock back 10 to 15 pints a night why ?? or a the weekend drink them silly and be as the phrase goes dying the next morning
    then again i smoke like a chimney but i dont find non smokers boring or strange i accept the fact they dont smoke simple

    whats boring is the fact that a person would go ot the same place night after night or weekend after weekend and do exactly the same thing eg nothing exists outside their drinking circle now that's strange to me

    you find most sober people boring i can understand that but do you thing a sober person finds you exciting !!!, trust me i have been in that situation plenty of times and i have to say i find most when they have had a few to be unbelievable boring and full of bull****

    so i guess its all personal choice again
    A lot of what you're saying here are extreme cases like getting locked out of the bracket in the same pub every weekend or people who use heavy drugs.
    That's not the kind of people I'm refering to. I'm just saying when I go out with people who don't drink in a social setting that I find them fairly boring to be around. I'm in no way saying that I don't do any other activities apart from one that revolve around drinking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭markbld65


    Felexicon wrote: »
    A lot of what you're saying here are extreme cases like getting locked out of the bracket in the same pub every weekend or people who use heavy drugs.
    That's not the kind of people I'm refering to. I'm just saying when I go out with people who don't drink in a social setting that I find them fairly boring to be around. I'm in no way saying that I don't do any other activities apart from one that revolve around drinking

    fair enough

    seems anyone that does not drink is a boring old fart is that it !!!

    thats what i was saying you find them boring but they may also find you boring

    think best to agree to disagree on this one and move along, its like a merry go round eg i dont drink im not boring and you find sober people boring,

    its no biggie anyways people differ thats life just enjoy it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,902 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    I get the look which usually translate as "must have had a problem with it"

    I had a problem with it....couple of pints and my head was bursting the next day.

    I'm back taking the odd drink now....as in last night over the space of 5 hours i drank the grand total of 1 and a half cans of bulmers.

    I can go without it for months and not be annoyed.

    Went to a house party over xmas and drank 1 glass of wine and 4 glasses of water...had one lad ask me why i wasn't drinking - can't face the hangover anymore i told him....yeah you're right he says. Watched him being carried out to the taxi later that night!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭Felexicon


    markbld65 wrote: »
    fair enough

    seems anyone that does not drink is a boring old fart is that it !!!

    thats what i was saying you find them boring but they may also find you boring

    think best to agree to disagree on this one and move along, its like a merry go round eg i dont drink im not boring and you find sober people boring,

    its no biggie anyways people differ thats life just enjoy it
    That's not what I've said at all. I have loads of mates who don't drink and they're great craic. The only time they seem to be having a shít time is when everyone else is drinking so I don't see why either they don't go to social gatherings were drink is involved or have a few pints and enjoy the buzz.

    Also I don't consider you boring as apart from a few posts here I don't know you. I'm sure you have an excellent social life and are a great laugh


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 187 ✭✭supackofidiots


    Felexicon wrote: »
    So shy people who come out of their shell after a few drinks should be avoided?


    Anyway my point is that when I'm out I find most sober people to be boring and it never seems like they're having a good time so I find it hard to understand why they wouldn't just have a few pints and chill out

    Why don't you just come out of your shell when you are sober instead? There's a culture in Ireland that people can only be themselves when they're pissed out of their minds. A falsehood if ever I cam across one. The only person being true to themselves is someone who is comfortable enough to go out, have fun and not have be up to their gills in guinness. Most sober people aren't boring. I find drinkers to be quite boring to be honest. They spout the same nonsense over and over. after four pints it's ''awww this is gonna be the best night ever, i'm buzzing,i'm smashed.'' After 7 pints it's ''Awww man I love you''. After ten pints it's ''Awhghshr *grunt* hfhsghd..... kebab''
    Felexicon wrote: »
    A lot of what you're saying here are extreme cases like getting locked out of the bracket in the same pub every weekend or people who use heavy drugs.
    That's not the kind of people I'm refering to. I'm just saying when I go out with people who don't drink in a social setting that I find them fairly boring to be around. I'm in no way saying that I don't do any other activities apart from one that revolve around drinking

    Felexicon wrote: »
    That's not what I've said at all. I have loads of mates who don't drink and they're great craic. The only time they seem to be having a shít time is when everyone else is drinking so I don't see why either they don't go to social gatherings were drink is involved or have a few pints and enjoy the buzz.

    Also I don't consider you boring as apart from a few posts here I don't know you. I'm sure you have an excellent social life and are a great laugh

    I have loads of mates who drink and don't drink. I had a problem with the drink myself, was sober for a long time, had a few drinks over the christmas. I always have a great time when drinking or non-drinking. Btw, that ''buzz'' you're experiencing is just your GABA channels being inhibited and increased levels of glutamate firing. It's temporary disinhibiton though, alcohol is a depressant, usually why you start to feel like a zombie after the 3rd pint. Enjoy your buzz.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 194 ✭✭kulareggae


    I get the same reaction especially in college or in social situations, I gave up when I was pregnant and I have not touched it in 9 years, I feel that it would be silly for me to start now, My Oh does not drink as well, but I will have a non alcoholic beer sometimes in a social situation.

    I have found people look me strange, or dont understand why I dont drink. I used to be close to an alcoholic, I drank liquour and vodka a lot, I got psoriosis and was warned to come off it by docs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭Felexicon


    Why don't you just come out of your shell when you are sober instead? There's a culture in Ireland that people can only be themselves when they're pissed out of their minds. A falsehood if ever I cam across one. The only person being true to themselves is someone who is comfortable enough to go out, have fun and not have be up to their gills in guinness. Most sober people aren't boring. I find drinkers to be quite boring to be honest. They spout the same nonsense over and over. after four pints it's ''awww this is gonna be the best night ever, i'm buzzing,i'm smashed.'' After 7 pints it's ''Awww man I love you''. After ten pints it's ''Awhghshr *grunt* hfhsghd..... kebab''






    I have loads of mates who drink and don't drink. I had a problem with the drink myself, was sober for a long time, had a few drinks over the christmas. I always have a great time when drinking or non-drinking. Btw, that ''buzz'' your experiencing is just your GABA channels being inhibited and increased levels of glutamate firing. It's temporary though disinhibiton though, alcohol is a depressant, usually why you start to feel like a zombie after the 3rd pint. Enjoy your buzz.
    You know what mate you sound like you'd be a great laugh telling me all about my GABA channels as I get drunker and drunker.
    I always find that non drinkers tend to look down on drinkers more than the other way around.
    I've said I find non drinkers boring in certain situations but unlike you I haven't tried to slag them off for their choices


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭Squ


    I just dont trust non drinkers. I feel the either have something to hide, or dont trust their tempers with a few pints on board.

    Saying "i just dont" doesnt sway well either.. How can you turn your nose up at the hundreds of drinks you havent tried yet.

    Saying "i dont like feeling drunk"? Just stop long before you get drunk.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 187 ✭✭supackofidiots


    Felexicon wrote: »
    You know what mate you sound like you'd be a great laugh telling me all about my GABA channels as I get drunker and drunker.
    I always find that non drinkers tend to look down on drinkers more than the other way around.
    I've said I find non drinkers boring in certain situations but unlike you I haven't tried to slag them off for their choices

    you've said ''non drinkers are boring'', is that not slagging them off. Btw I haven't slagged anyone off, I merely stated some physiology facts for you to digest. Perhaps you don't like being faced with the cold hard reality of what alcohol does to your body? Would you like me to go through the pathophysiology of cirrhosis and fatty liver for you as well or would that be too hard a fact for you to face?
    Squ wrote: »
    I just dont trust non drinkers. I feel the either have something to hide, or dont trust their tempers with a few pints on board.

    Saying "i just dont" doesnt sway well either.. How can you turn your nose up at the hundreds of drinks you havent tried yet.

    Saying "i dont like feeling drunk"? Just stop long before you get drunk.

    What's wrong with just not enjoying alcohol, and not enjoying the hangover, and not enjoying feeling like a corpse every saturday and sunday morning. It's a fairly legitimate reason to be honest?
    Might I ask what you did on the 27th of December? I was up at the wise hour of 7am fresh as a daisy and went for a ten mile run. 95% of my mates were buried under the blankets saying their prayers that this misery would end. I'm guessing (correct me if I'm wrong), that you too were hanging like a rat all over the Christmas period.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,906 ✭✭✭✭PhlegmyMoses


    Felexicon wrote: »
    You know what mate you sound like you'd be a great laugh telling me all about my GABA channels as I get drunker and drunker.
    I always find that non drinkers tend to look down on drinkers more than the other way around.
    I've said I find non drinkers boring in certain situations but unlike you I haven't tried to slag them off for their choices

    Could you imagine someone going on about your GABA channels as you down your 5th Jagerbomb? Proper laughing here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭Squ


    1. What's wrong with just not enjoying alcohol

    2. and not enjoying the hangover, and not enjoying feeling like a corpse every saturday and sunday morning.

    3.Might I ask what you did on the 27th of December?

    4. I'm guessing (correct me if I'm wrong), that you too were hanging like a rat all over the Christmas period.
    Im on a phone, so you'll have to forgive my poor quoting.

    1. I think anyone who drinks pure alcohol needs serious help, quick. What i'm sure you're trying to say is that you do not enjoy alcoholic beverages? As i said in my previous post, you haven't tried them all, so saying you do not enjoy any of them is a very uninformed stance, but you're more than entitled to it.

    2. drinking until you get to the state where your brain is dehydrated the following morning is very dangerous and should be avoided

    3. Painted my spare bedroom

    4. Hanging like a rat? I'm going to presume you meant hungover. I think point 2 answers that question/comment.




    I'm feeling a bit of defensiveness on your part. Might i point out that the op asked a very specific question that i tried to answer honestly. If i thought that this tread was for answers from one side of the room only, i wouldn't have wasted my time answering.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,906 ✭✭✭✭PhlegmyMoses


    you've said ''non drinkers are boring'', is that not slagging them off. Btw I haven't slagged anyone off, I merely stated some physiology facts for you to digest. Perhaps you don't like being faced with the cold hard reality of what alcohol does to your body? Would you like me to go through the pathophysiology of cirrhosis and fatty liver for you as well or would that be too hard a fact for you to face?

    Please do tell us, I'm nearly there.



    What's wrong with just not enjoying alcohol, and not enjoying the hangover, and not enjoying feeling like a corpse every saturday and sunday morning. It's a fairly legitimate reason to be honest?
    Might I ask what you did on the 27th of December? I was up at the wise hour of 7am fresh as a daisy and went for a ten mile run. 95% of my mates were buried under the blankets saying their prayers that this misery would end. I'm guessing (correct me if I'm wrong), that you too were hanging like a rat all over the Christmas period.

    You're right about how I spent my 27th. However on the 26th in the evening I was leading a throng of people in what can only be described as a Michael Hutchence-style asphixiwank dance move after a whole hape of pints. Who wins? You decide.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 Dare2baDaniel


    Squ wrote: »
    I just dont trust non drinkers. I feel the either have something to hide, or dont trust their tempers with a few pints on board.

    Saying "i just dont" doesnt sway well either.. How can you turn your nose up at the hundreds of drinks you havent tried yet.

    Saying "i dont like feeling drunk"? Just stop long before you get drunk.



    Are you actually being serious? You have got to be joking! Alcohol is such an integral part of your life that you don't trust people who do not drink? Have you ever left Ireland/ know that other countries exist? Do you realise our country is ridiculed and stereotyped the world over for being a bunch of 'drunks'.

    Have you absolutely no knowledge of the effects of alcohol?

    How many Irish families are ruined and scarred by alcoholism?
    How many deaths are caused by drunk drivers?
    How many drunken fights/accidents happen every weekend?

    To a lot of people, alcohol is not about ''having the craic' or ''loosening up'', but the cause of grief.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭Squ


    can't bate the christmas holidays. slab of budweiser and a box of celebrations polished off tonight under the christmas tree lights with the nfl on the box. :) happy days.
    How many cans/bottles in a "slab"?
    Id go easy if i were you lad.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭Squ


    Are you actually being serious? You have got to be joking! Alcohol is such an integral part of your life that you don't trust people who do not drink? Have you ever left Ireland/ know that other countries exist? Do you realise our country is ridiculed and stereotyped the world over for being a bunch of 'drunks'.

    Have you absolutely no knowledge of the effects of alcohol?

    How many Irish families are ruined and scarred by alcoholism?
    How many deaths are caused by drunk drivers?
    How many drunken fights/accidents happen every weekend?

    To a lot of people, alcohol is not about ''having the craic' or ''loosening up'', but the cause of grief.

    Did you read my reply to SuPackOfIdiots?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 Dare2baDaniel


    Squ wrote: »
    Did you read my reply to SuPackOfIdiots?

    Your reply about your drinking habits? How is that relevant to what I just said?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭Squ


    1. Are you actually being serious?
    2. You have got to be joking!
    3. Alcohol is such an integral part of your life that you don't trust people who do not drink?
    4. Have you ever left Ireland
    5. know that other countries exist?
    6. Do you realise our country is ridiculed and stereotyped the world over for being a bunch of 'drunks'.
    7. Have you absolutely no knowledge of the effects of alcohol?
    8. How many Irish families are ruined and scarred by alcoholism?
    9. How many deaths are caused by drunk drivers?
    10. How many drunken fights/accidents happen every weekend?
    11. To a lot of people, alcohol is not about ''having the craic' or ''loosening up'', but the cause of grief.
    Your reply about your drinking habits? How is that relevant to what I just said?

    Again, I'm on the phone, so you'll have to excuse my poor quoting;




    Ok so, lets start from the top,

    1. Yes.
    2. No.
    3. Alcohol is not an integral part of my life, but yes, i do not trust people over 18 who do not drink (for reasons stated)
    4. I have left Ireland
    5. I do know other countries exist.
    6. I am well aware of the popular stereotype of the Irish drunk.
    7. I am aware of the affects of the misuse of alcohol.
    8. Too many families affected by misuse of alcohol.
    9. It is something like a third of all road deaths
    10. God knows.

    11. I'll disagree with you there. I would say it's the person who cannot say enough is enough, who and then gets behind the wheel of a car, or drunkenly abuses their partner/children, gets into drunken fights. I'd wager the only damage a bottle of alcoholic beverage ever did anyone was falling off the shalf and hitting someone's head.

    From your first reply, I can see that you are generalizing Drink, drunk and alcoholic. You have asked so many questions, can I ask what age you are?



    edit; read your op, 23.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭Squ


    Your reply about your drinking habits? How is that relevant to what I just said?

    I don't comment on my "drinking habits" in that post. Are you sure you're reading the correct post?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 Dare2baDaniel


    Squ wrote: »
    Again, I'm on the phone, so you'll have to excuse my poor quoting;




    Ok so, lets start from the top,

    1. Yes.
    2. No.
    3. Alcohol is not an integral part of my life, but yes, i do not trust people over 18 who do not drink (for reasons stated)
    4. I have left Ireland
    5. I do know other countries exist.
    6. I am well aware of the popular stereotype of the Irish drunk.
    7. I am aware of the affects of of the misuse of alcohol.
    8. Too many families affected by misuse of alcohol.
    9. It is something like a third of all road deaths
    10. God knows.

    11. I'll disagree with you there. I would say it's the person who cannot say enough is enough, who and then gets behind the wheel of a car, or drunkenly abuses their partner/children, gets into drunken fights. I'd wager the only damage a bottle of alcoholic beverage ever did anyone was falling off the shalf and hitting someone's head.

    From your first reply, I can see that you are generalizing Drink, drunk and alcoholic. You have asked so many questions, can I ask what age you are?



    edit; read your op, 23.


    You are completely missing the point. It is a ridiculous statement to say you do not trust people who do not drink alcohol. Alcohol is a dangerous drug which has endless disastrous effects. Just because it is a socially acceptable to drink does not make it ok.

    If alcohol was not an integral part of your life you would have no problem ''trusting'' people who do not drink.

    What about people who do not drink because of their faith?

    I still find it hard to believe you are being genuine


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 Dare2baDaniel


    I think you have pretty much answered my question Squ. Some people are just mystified by others who do not have the same lifestyle as themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭Felexicon


    you've said ''non drinkers are boring'', is that not slagging them off. Btw I haven't slagged anyone off, I merely stated some physiology facts for you to digest. Perhaps you don't like being faced with the cold hard reality of what alcohol does to your body? Would you like me to go through the pathophysiology of cirrhosis and fatty liver for you as well or would that be too hard a fact for you to face?
    Incorrect. I've said they are boring in certain social situations, such as in the pub for the football on a Saturday evening with a rake of pints and whatever follows.

    I know exactly what affect alcohol has on my body. It allows me to chill out with my mates, make a tit of myself if I'm so inclined and have an excuse for not cleaning the house the next day.

    The nay sayers in this thread need to realize that not everyone who drinks is an alcoholic and it is possible to just enjoy the buzz of 10 or 12 pints and a few shots on a Saturday without it ruining your families lives


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 194 ✭✭kulareggae


    im loads of fun =] =]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 751 ✭✭✭dozy doctor


    Have to agree...
    Drinking its boring and a mugs game..... The problem as I see it with Irish people is that they were never brought up to respect alcohol, unlike our spanish and Italian counterparts where it is more normal to drink at early age, pace yourself and not see who can make a gob****e out of themselves the quickest...

    People don't like to have a non dinner in the group as they will obviously remember everything....

    I am off it over 8 years now and don't miss it, not for even a second.... Mind you I was about if a twat on the stuff, like most people, except unlike most people, I am willing to admit it....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 Dare2baDaniel


    Felexicon wrote: »
    Incorrect. I've said they are boring in certain social situations, such as in the pub for the football on a Saturday evening with a rake of pints and whatever follows.

    I know exactly what affect alcohol has on my body. It allows me to chill out with my mates, make a tit of myself if I'm so inclined and have an excuse for not cleaning the house the next day.

    The nay sayers in this thread need to realize that not everyone who drinks is an alcoholic and it is possible to just enjoy the buzz of 10 or 12 pints and a few shots on a Saturday without it ruining your families lives



    The problem is the attitude to non-drinkers. I would never dream of questioning someone on WHY they drink alcohol. THAT IS THEIR PERSONAL CHOICE. I do not know why a lot of people feel it is appropriate to question me over my choice not to drink. It is so rude!

    I am perfectly aware that it is possible to enjoy the buzz of alcohol without ruining any lives. I was making the point that the awful effects of alcohol are why some people choose NOT to drink. There are numerous other reasons.

    This is not a thread asking the pros and cons of drinking alcohol, it is asking why choosing not to drink is met with a string of questions and confusion. It is a very sad part of Irish society.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭libnation


    You don't trust non drinkers because they might be a) aggressive or b) hiding something?

    When I was drinking I always thought this line of thinking was bullsh*t as id seen 100% of my friends do something aggressive at least once when drunk.

    When I stopped drinking I realised drunk people are incapable of telling secrets. When you get over the fear of sober nights out you start to realise people just can't speak at all. Drunk people have nothing to say. I hope someone says they don't trust me to my face in real life because my response would cause some aggression.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭Squ


    libnation wrote: »
    You don't trust non drinkers because they might be a) aggressive or b) hiding something?

    When I was drinking I always thought this line of thinking was bullsh*t as id seen 100% of my friends do something aggressive at least once when drunk.

    When I stopped drinking I realised drunk people are incapable of telling secrets. When you get over the fear of sober nights out you start to realise people just can't speak at all. Drunk people have nothing to say. I hope someone says they don't trust me to my face in real life because my response would cause some aggression.
    Prob best you're off the drink so


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 574 ✭✭✭ZETOR_IS_BETTER


    Squ wrote: »
    I just dont trust non drinkers. I feel the either have something to hide,

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭Squ


    We all have little wierd sides to our reasonings, that's just one of mine..

    Prob not the best place to post it..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 187 ✭✭supackofidiots


    Felexicon wrote: »
    Incorrect. I've said they are boring in certain social situations, such as in the pub for the football on a Saturday evening with a rake of pints and whatever follows.

    I know exactly what affect alcohol has on my body. It allows me to chill out with my mates, make a tit of myself if I'm so inclined and have an excuse for not cleaning the house the next day.

    The nay sayers in this thread need to realize that not everyone who drinks is an alcoholic and it is possible to just enjoy the buzz of 10 or 12 pints and a few shots on a Saturday without it ruining your families lives


    Squ wrote: »
    Prob best you're off the drink so

    seriously lads. why come on to a non drinkers forum and start posting this drivel. you're antagonising posters at best and trolling at worst. this is a fairly placid forum a lot of us keep it fairly civil on here, many are off the drink through choice ,force or circumstance or all three but posts like both of yours don't help anyone.


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