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Has Ireland become Lawless

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  • 28-12-2012 11:13pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭


    Was over in Scotland recently Old Boy from Ireland says we have become Lawless.
    I kind of agree..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Hootanany wrote: »
    Was over in Scotland recently Old Boy from Ireland says we have become Lawless.
    I kind of agree..

    No.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,814 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Hootanany wrote: »
    Was over in Scotland recently Old Boy from Ireland says we have become Lawless.
    I kind of agree..

    why?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users Posts: 27,321 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    No. No it hasn't.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    I actually think since the tiger imploded we've become a nicer society

    The underclass who commit crime have always been and always will be there

    That underclass seem to have no fear of the cops though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    i know a fella called gerry lawless but i dont know too many other so no


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    why?

    Because Perps keep committing Crime with no repercussions Gards not wanting to know about ordinary peoples woes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,968 ✭✭✭✭Praetorian Saighdiuir


    No, although less "law obiding".


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,814 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Hootanany wrote: »
    Because Perps keep committing Crime with no repercussions Gards not wanting to know about ordinary peoples woes.

    Really?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Hootanany wrote: »
    Because Perps keep committing Crime with no repercussions Gards not wanting to know about ordinary peoples woes.

    You mean they aren't slamming the perps into the cubes enough?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    Hootanany wrote: »
    Was over in Scotland recently Old Boy from Ireland says we have become Lawless.
    I kind of agree..

    Tell us how you really feel OP. Please do, because the above is about as coherent as a deaf mule.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭Miss Lockhart


    i know a fella called gerry lawless

    Same here.

    But no, I think you're (OP) just looking to start a sensationalist thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭juan.kerr


    Could it be all the Romanians?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Hootanany wrote: »
    Because Perps keep committing Crime with no repercussions Gards not wanting to know about ordinary peoples woes.

    This isn't a serious problem. It's one that's been exaggerated by media reports which focus on violent and sensational crimes.

    Saying this country is "lawless" is an absurdity. This is an incredibly safe first-world country.

    Go tell a Somalian this is a lawless country with a straight face.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    keith16 wrote: »
    Tell us how you really feel OP. Please do, because the above is about as coherent as a deaf mule.

    How wood you put it Wordsmith.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    There is plenty law in Ireland, run criminal gangs doing drugs and racketeering or deliberately commit banking fraud and bankrupt a country then you can expect no repercussions.

    Import some Garlic, break the speed limit or refuse to pay the household charge and you can expect jail. Rape a woman and you'dd get off scot free.

    Basically it is those who obey the law who get punished and those who don't well it is they who have the last laugh.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    Stinicker wrote: »
    There is plenty law in Ireland, run criminal gangs doing drugs and racketeering or deliberately commit banking fraud and bankrupt a country then you can expect no repercussions.

    Import some Garlic, break the speed limit or refuse to pay the household charge and you can expect jail. Rape a woman and you'dd get off scot free.

    Basically it is those who obey the law who get punished and those who don't well it is they who have the last laugh.

    I agree


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,814 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Hootanany wrote: »
    I agree

    You agree with everything

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭Frankie Lee


    The IFSC is lawless but was designed to be I suppose.

    Then small towns across the country are definitely on a downward spiral with heroin spreading and no job prospects for the youth.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    You agree with everything

    Listen
    How many crims get let out to break the law again whist on bail are you blind.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Hootanany wrote: »
    Listen
    How many crims get let out to break the law again whist on bail are you blind.

    Shouldn't you provide us with these figures? You're the one arguing that this is a lawless country, so the onus is on you to back your argument up with stronger evidence than vague allusions to reports about isolated cases.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭Piriz


    Stinicker wrote: »
    There is plenty law in Ireland, run criminal gangs doing drugs and racketeering or deliberately commit banking fraud and bankrupt a country then you can expect no repercussions.

    Import some Garlic, break the speed limit or refuse to pay the household charge and you can expect jail. Rape a woman and you'dd get off scot free.

    Basically it is those who obey the law who get punished and those who don't well it is they who have the last laugh.


    the actual story is he committed tax fraud to the tune of €1.6 million..


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,665 ✭✭✭✭Ally Dick


    Yes we have become lawless, and it is courtesy of the sly gardai. Everyone knows that if you touch a civil servant's pay or conditions, they have a way of getting back at you. Look at the A&E departments with the staff on a passive aggressive go-slow. They want things to come to a head so that Minister Reilly will give in. It's the same with the gardai. They know that there will become a tipping point where Shatter will crack (pardon the pun) and will give them more money, and even more recruits. Until then, they're hiding in the police stations, letting everything go to sh!t


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    Shouldn't you provide us with these figures? You're the one arguing that this is a lawless country, so the onus is on you to back your argument up with stronger evidence than vague allusions to reports about isolated cases.

    Why does nothing happen in your area, This Country is Lawless Cops dont give a sh I te because there overtime is cut wake up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,814 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Hootanany wrote: »
    Why does nothing happen in your area, This Country is Lawless Cops dont give a sh I te because there overtime is cut wake up.

    Wake up to what?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    Wake up to what?

    :cool:


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Hootanany wrote: »
    Why does nothing happen in your area, This Country is Lawless Cops dont give a sh I te because there overtime is cut wake up.

    I never said nothing happens in my area. Hootanany, I declare you to be avoiding backing up your position and talking bollocks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 199 ✭✭The Gride


    Stinicker wrote: »
    There is plenty law in Ireland, run criminal gangs doing drugs and racketeering or deliberately commit banking fraud and bankrupt a country then you can expect no repercussions.

    Import some Garlic, break the speed limit or refuse to pay the household charge and you can expect jail. Rape a woman and you'dd get off scot free.

    Basically it is those who obey the law who get punished and those who don't well it is they who have the last laugh.


    I agree also.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Wake up to what?

    The Apocalypse

    *featuring mohawked cannibal motorcycle gangs


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,814 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Nodin wrote: »
    The Apocalypse

    *featuring mohawked cannibal motorcycle gangs

    I agree

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭Miss Lockhart


    I agree

    I agree also.


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