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SpaceX's Grasshopper VTVL takes a 40 meter hop

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭_Tombstone_




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭_Tombstone_




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭nokia69



    I suppose if they can give Barry Obama a peace prize then why not give Musk an economic prize


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭_Tombstone_




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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭Knifey Spoony


    So, assuming clear skies tonight, could we see Dragon passing over shortly after launch?

    With the ISS being visible tomorrow night, there's probably a good chance of seeing Dragon chasing it then. But, I would love to see it just after launch.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    Weather looks good for launch


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    Wow!!!

    They did it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭nokia69


    Wow!!!

    They did it.

    It was only a matter of time, they were very unlucky with that broken leg a while back


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    nokia69 wrote: »
    It was only a matter of time, they were very unlucky with that broken leg a while back
    Still afraid it's gonna fall of the boat though! hope the seas are calm :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭nokia69


    Still afraid it's gonna fall of the boat though! hope the seas are calm :pac:

    Yeah I was too, it looked a little choppy, but most of the weight is at the bottom so it should be stable enough

    https://gfycat.com/UnfitFixedCony


  • Registered Users Posts: 30,064 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    Looks a bit choppy, great they finally did it
    https://twitter.com/StephEvz43/status/718543437956395008


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭_Tombstone_


    Good week for musk, 14 Billion in Tesla pre orders, an offer from the French to set up shop in an old nuke plant in the area he wanted and now the elusive landing.

    Two thirds of landings will be at sea so they'll...I assume build some platform out there somewhere and get rid of that Barge yoke.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭nokia69



    Two thirds of landings will be at sea so they'll...I assume build some platform out there somewhere and get rid of that Barge yoke.

    I don't know, is that possible, is it not a bit far out and too deep, and they may build a bigger barge, one of the legs was very close to the edge, well maybe future landings will be closer to the bulls eye


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    nokia69 wrote: »
    I don't know, is that possible, is it not a bit far out and too deep, and they may build a bigger barge, one of the legs was very close to the edge, well maybe future landings will be closer to the bulls eye

    Not every mission will be on the same flightpath either


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭nokia69


    Not every mission will be on the same flightpath either

    yeah true, and Musk has just said they long term only maybe 25% will be sea landings


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭_Tombstone_




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 90,838 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Two thirds of landings will be at sea so they'll...I assume build some platform out there somewhere and get rid of that Barge yoke.
    I'd doubt it. Barges are cheap and flexible. Platforms are neither. Especially in deep water.

    Depending on the destination orbit or parking orbit the first stage could start off on different trajectories, and depending on the payload it could come down at different distances.

    One of the things that made the Shuttle such a turkey was having to provide way too much cross range to placate the Air Force. Otherwise it could have had much smaller wings, which would have meant a lot less tiles and less refurb costs between flights. It's possible that the oversized wings were a factor in Columbia's loss.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭nokia69



    ^^Two thirds...anyway

    I think he said more on land than at sea, thats what I heard

    Its early days yet, they still have work to do


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭Hmmzis


    So they'll hotfire this stage 10 times and then'll put a second stage and payload on top and launch it again, in June supposedly. Fair play to them if they can pull than one off! Congrats on the landing, that's some achievement on its own already.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭_Tombstone_




    27.20 if ya haven't seen it yet.

    Hmmzis wrote: »
    So they'll hotfire this stage 10 times and then'll put a second stage and payload on top and launch it again, in June supposedly. Fair play to them if they can pull than one off! Congrats on the landing, that's some achievement on its own already.

    SES have called dibs on getting up on a reusable since last summer.


    SpaceX rocket booster makes breakthrough landing at sea
    SpaceX lands rocket on ocean-going drone ship


    They're gonna look at trying to save the payload fairing next. No plans for stage 2 as it'd need a heat shield.


    22.04 for ISS Tonight, Dragon due to dock Sunday Morning at 11am so it should be following shortly after tonight if no cloulds. App on phone says it's looking good.


  • Registered Users Posts: 30,064 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    Can see the moon at the moment, so hopefully clear enough to iss and spacex crs in few minutes

    Edit: nice clear sky in south west, so great pass of ISS with dragon a bit fainter and about a minute behind


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭_Tombstone_




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 90,838 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Just an aside. SpaceX use three landing legs. Blue origin use four.

    Reminded me of the LEM design. One set of engineers wanted three legs because that was lighter. The other group wanted five because that gave redundancy in case a leg was damaged.

    So management compromised on four. Heavier than three legs and no redundancy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭thecommander


    Just an aside. SpaceX use three landing legs. Blue origin use four.

    Reminded me of the LEM design. One set of engineers wanted three legs because that was lighter. The other group wanted five because that gave redundancy in case a leg was damaged.

    So management compromised on four. Heavier than three legs and no redundancy.

    SpaceX use 4 legs not 3.
    Pic


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,673 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Was the 5 legs preference for the LEM for stability rather than redundancy?
    The more legs you have the the greater an off-centre angle you can tolerate without falling over.
    4 legs for the tall Falcon 9 makes more sense than 3, even if most of the mass is towards to the bottom.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭Hmmzis


    Stage is on dry land in port Canaveral. The webcam guy is doing a great job paning and zooming to show the activity around the stage.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭Hmmzis


    CRS-8 stage goes horizontal (again).

    linky

    live feed


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭Hmmzis


    Both returned bosters now in HIF at pad 39A. Looks like the OG-2 core is missing a few engines, probably for inspection.

    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/722598287396605953?s=09


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