Fat acceptance?

davet82

Yossi’s fascination with women of size led him to New York’s underground “fat acceptance” scene in 2006 where he began taking these provocative images of women.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/4707120/Photographers-uses-obese-models-for-new-collection.html#ixzz2FgtRI1sn

i don't think we should be encouraging people to accept obesity, any opinions?



*Warning: Article contains nudity to those easily offended btw*

chops018

Why did I click that link. I almost vomited. Also it's ironic the hideousness of those photo's yet they feel the need to blur they're yoohoo's.

Ihatecuddles-old

Well after looking at those photos I now feel incredibly sexy.

juan.kerr

Sickening.

Fat acceptance is just more Political Correctness gone mad.

theT

Really shouldnt have looked at that so soon after lunch.....

nocoverart

I'd tap it :eek:

Shenshen

davet82 wrote: »

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/4707120/Photographers-uses-obese-models-for-new-collection.html#ixzz2FgtRI1sn

i don't think we should be encouraging people to accept obesity, any opinions?



*Warning: Article contains nudity to those easily offended btw*

I know I'll be shouted out of this thread for saying it, but we should encourage people to like themselves.
Once we've accomplished that, we should help those who want to change themselves.

At the end of the day, people will always be different, and will always like different things.
I'm at work and don't think I should click your link right now, but I am fat myself.
I'm losing weight, I've lost 20 kg over the last year and am continuing on, but I do NOT want to become skinny either, just because the ITG mentality would not accept me otherwise.

I like chubby people. I married a chubby man, and I plan on remaining chubby myself.
I don't need "encouragement" for that from anyone, but I can do without the sanctimonious "I've only got your best interest at heart" condescension, thank you very much.

youtube!

These women apart from being horrendously overweight are also so dam sad looking, I feel sorry for them,if they believe in this as a cause they are surely only deluding themselves,certainly not fooling anyone else. They must know they need serious psychological help.

Zombienosh

BRING ME SOLO AND THE WOOKIE.

juan.kerr

nocoverart wrote: »

I'd tap it :eek:

'It' being the operative word here. Because I'm no seeing a human there. An elephant maybe, but not a human.

davet82

Shenshen wrote: »

I know I'll be shouted out of this thread for saying it, but we should encourage people to like themselves.
Once we've accomplished that, we should help those who want to change themselves.

At the end of the day, people will always be different, and will always like different things.
I'm at work and don't think I should click your link right now, but I am fat myself.
I'm losing weight, I've lost 20 kg over the last year and am continuing on, but I do NOT want to become skinny either, just because the ITG mentality would not accept me otherwise.

I like chubby people. I married a chubby man, and I plan on remaining chubby myself.
I don't need "encouragement" for that from anyone, but I can do without the sanctimonious "I've only got your best interest at heart" condescension, thank you very much.

I'm a smoker, its apart of who I am now but I shouldn't be encouraged to accept it but maybe you are right about criticising it...

Ihatecuddles-old

Shenshen wrote: »

I know I'll be shouted out of this thread for saying it, but we should encourage people to like themselves.
Once we've accomplished that, we should help those who want to change themselves.

At the end of the day, people will always be different, and will always like different things.
I'm at work and don't think I should click your link right now, but I am fat myself.
I'm losing weight, I've lost 20 kg over the last year and am continuing on, but I do NOT want to become skinny either, just because the ITG mentality would not accept me otherwise.

I like chubby people. I married a chubby man, and I plan on remaining chubby myself.
I don't need "encouragement" for that from anyone, but I can do without the sanctimonious "I've only got your best interest at heart" condescension, thank you very much.

I agree with a lot of what you say, but you need to click the link. These women are unhealthy and sad looking.

This should never be seen as acceptable. It's absolutely horrific. I'm no skinny minny but I'm happy with my body, I'm healthy and I also like a man with a bit of extra weight.

You could sit on these women's hips they are that grotesquely fat.

Shenshen

davet82 wrote: »

I'm a smoker, its apart of who I am now but I shouldn't be encouraged to accept it but maybe you are right about critising it...

Think about it for just 1 second. Will any amount of criticism, well-meaning or otherwise, do anything to help you stop smoking? Would it make you want to stop?

I've helped my mother and my brother when they decided to give it up, but I'm leaving my other brother who is still smoking well alone. Nagging and heckling and bugging and pocking is not going to help, it's going to aggravate the problem.

SEPT 23 1989

You would need a miners lamp and a canary to go down on them

Shryke

A symptom of a sick society.

davet82

Shenshen wrote: »

Think about it for just 1 second. Will any amount of criticism, well-meaning or otherwise, do anything to help you stop smoking? Would it make you want to stop?

I've helped my mother and my brother when they decided to give it up, but I'm leaving my other brother who is still smoking well alone. Nagging and heckling and bugging and pocking is not going to help, it's going to aggravate the problem.

I agree totally but fat (obesity) acceptance days or pro smoking propaganda shouldn't be encouraged either is my point.

juan.kerr

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

You would need a miners lamp and a canary to go down on them

This would make a great National Lottery advert...what would I do for a billion euros?

Shenshen

Ihatecuddles wrote: »

I agree with a lot of what you say, but you need to click the link. These women are unhealthy and sad looking.

This should never be seen as acceptable. It's absolutely horrific. I'm no skinny minny but I'm happy with my body, I'm healthy and I also like a man with a bit of extra weight.

You could sit on these women's hips they are that grotesquely fat.

I believe you, without seeing it (I might check it when I get home later).
But while this is by no means the first thread on the topic of body fat, the general attitude seems to be that these people ought to be punished by ridicule, additional taxes, and heckling and abuse.

If you had posted a pro-ana website showing skeletal people aiming to be sexy, nobody here would hilariously claim to just have thrown up their lunch over their keyboard. They would be pitied, society and fashion would be blamed, and psychotherapy would be suggested.

But hey, those people are skinny, not fat.

And it's this two-facedness that is starting to seriously annoy me.

keith16

juan.kerr wrote: »

This would make a great National Lottery advert...what would I do for a billion euros?

Read the sun....*shuderrs.

HowAreWe

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6jd6n70ms1qgqalvo1_500.jpg

Ihatecuddles-old

Shenshen wrote: »

I believe you, without seeing it (I might check it when I get home later).
But while this is by no means the first thread on the topic of body fat, the general attitude seems to be that these people ought to be punished by ridicule, additional taxes, and heckling and abuse.

If you had posted a pro-ana website showing skeletal people aiming to be sexy, nobody here would hilariously claim to just have thrown up their lunch over their keyboard. They would be pitied, society and fashion would be blamed, and psychotherapy would be suggested.

But hey, those people are skinny, not fat.

And it's this two-facedness that is starting to seriously annoy me.

They can be as fat as they want, but seeing them naked and clearly looking sad isn't nice.
I don't want to hate on any fat person, but there comes a point where I just pity them and think, Jesus that's no life. EVery aspect of their lives must be a struggle. If they don't help themselves and die because of it, that's their choice.

In all honesty, if one of those women was a close friend I'd tell them to stop embarrassing themselves, put their clothes on and do something about it.It won't happen over night, but even losing a few stone will make a huge difference to the strain on their heart, backs and legs.
Many won't agree with me I'm sure.

Shryke

Shenshen wrote: »

I believe you, without seeing it (I might check it when I get home later).
But while this is by no means the first thread on the topic of body fat, the general attitude seems to be that these people ought to be punished by ridicule, additional taxes, and heckling and abuse.

If you had posted a pro-ana website showing skeletal people aiming to be sexy, nobody here would hilariously claim to just have thrown up their lunch over their keyboard. They would be pitied, society and fashion would be blamed, and psychotherapy would be suggested.

But hey, those people are skinny, not fat.

And it's this two-facedness that is starting to seriously annoy me.

Yes they would be ridiculed. You're not new here?
Someone already suggested these women need psychological help.
Take a look at the pictures before your venture too much into this. There's nothing acceptable about it.

Personally I notice less acceptance of smoking for example. The world is more health conscious in lots of ways and I think it's a good thing.

folamh

I don't think fat acceptance contributes to health problems, at least not in the public sphere. All else being equal, it might be a health concern. However all else is not equal: The norm in the media is to represent the other end of the spectrum. Skinny is good and desirable, fat is not. This fixation our society has with losing weight probably has something to do with why these obese women develop unhealthy relationships with food in the first place. I think deconstructing this norm is a far better use of time than criticizing overweight models. At least they contribute to diversity and provide an alternative.

nocoverart

Munster should buy her for their scrum

juan.kerr

nocoverart wrote: »

Munster should buy her for their scrum

Assuming the rest of the team don't mind carrying her on and off the pitch.

Matt_Trakker

*puts down pizza menu
*puts on coat to go to shop and buy salad-y crap yummy nutritous grub instead

juan.kerr

nocoverart wrote: »

Munster should buy her for their scrum

Better yet, stick he in goal for Ireland. There's no way Germany could get 6 past her.

barry181091

Ah jesus, there is fat acceptance and fat acceptance. That is taking it wayy overboard, that woman is a crazy weight!

listermint

Shenshen wrote: »

I know I'll be shouted out of this thread for saying it, but we should encourage people to like themselves.
Once we've accomplished that, we should help those who want to change themselves.

At the end of the day, people will always be different, and will always like different things.
I'm at work and don't think I should click your link right now, but I am fat myself.
I'm losing weight, I've lost 20 kg over the last year and am continuing on, but I do NOT want to become skinny either, just because the ITG mentality would not accept me otherwise.

I like chubby people. I married a chubby man, and I plan on remaining chubby myself.
I don't need "encouragement" for that from anyone, but I can do without the sanctimonious "I've only got your best interest at heart" condescension, thank you very much.

I think your confusing being grosely obese to being large.

The people in the link have gone past the unhealthy stage and far into the very early death stage.

thenightrider

Give me a bag of flour i cant find the wet spot

nocoverart

juan.kerr wrote: »

Assuming the rest of the team don't mind carrying her on and off the pitch.

They could invest in a couple of cranes and she'd be grand.