Dublin 15 Pet Peeves

Omackeral

First of all I must point out that I've lived in Dublin 15 my whole life and really love the area. In fact I am proud to call it home. We're very lucky in that we have great resources in our area. Some examples include IT Blanchardstown, The National Aquatic Centre and, of course, the The Blanchardstown Shopping Centre, not mention the M50, the Phoenix Park on our door step and various other recreational facilities in the locality. We have trains running through our postcode, direct buses to the City and the airport is only a short spin away also.

So with that being said, are there any things about Dublin 15 that get on your wick?

As for me? Well I've just a small issue that had me thinking earlier and wanted get off my chest. That is the recently (enough) signalled junction at the Blakestown and Hartstown Road. For years this has been serviced by a simple roundabout and had no real issues but nowadays it's havoc. Lights that let one or two vehicles out at a time and cause major jams for no reason. I dont know why they changed it!!!

Again, this thread is intended as a general pet peeves type of set-up, not just traffic! So if it's a lack of something or other in your area, an extra bus route you feel is needed, or the Leisure Plex not being open 24hours anymore :P then say it here. Try to keep posts relevant to D15 and its environs and as always, keep the good aul scriptures (The Charter) in mind.

Morag

that is a disaster, they set the junction up to give the traffic heading towards the centre and the bus route priority, I don't think they took the time to figure out the amount of traffic that comes into the junction via mulhudard village.

Having ITB there is good but, why isn't it on a real bus route?
It's quicker to get into town to TCD from parts of Dublin 15 then it is to get up to ITB.

jeffk

• No proper bus links from Corduff to the hospital or the centre(for the mother and father)
• No roundabout to go down the bypass into the bell/end of the village
• No right turn into Auburn avenue
• No more going in the back or front gate of the hospital
• No proper second-hand book/music shop
• Living so close to the shops that traffic is a minute away from my doorstep
• Going towards ITB there is a filter light to turn right into Blackcourt road, this is useless as most of the time traffic going straight stops people using it.
• Any traffic issues and they throw in a roundabout
• The new back road to Finglas gets upgraded and they put a slower speed limit on it an hide a speed van on it to catch you out
• Buses going missing/up to the factories from around four to six in the evening, apart from the odd one that ignores this

A lot of car/traffic/bus stuff , but that’s all that I can really think of .

Omackeral

jeffk wrote: »

• No proper bus links from Corduff to the hospital or the centre(for the mother and father)
• No roundabout to go down the bypass into the bell/end of the village
• No right turn into Auburn avenue
• No more going in the back or front gate of the hospital
• No proper second-hand book/music shop
• Living so close to the shops that traffic is a minute away from my doorstep
• Going towards ITB there is a filter light to turn right into Blackcourt road, this is useless as most of the time traffic going straight stops people using it.
• Any traffic issues and they throw in a roundabout
• The new back road to Finglas gets upgraded and they put a slower speed limit on it an hide a speed van on it to catch you out
• Buses going missing/up to the factories from around four to six in the evening, apart from the odd one that ignores this

A lot of car/traffic/bus stuff , but that’s all that I can really think of .

Tee hee...

ongarite

Good idea for a thread,

My pet peeve is the farce of a shop called "Petshop Superstore", the aquarium section specifically.
Poor to no stock of filters and accessories for tanks that they sell and sporadic stocking of fish breeds.

To top it off yesterday, the aquarium section was closed for no reason I could see, even after asking staff. Store wasn't closing for another 3 hours.

Must find a better store around, they seem to be surviving on pure captive market rather than retail excellence.

JoePie

Mostly traffic stuff I guess. I'm using that junction from the first post more now as I'm working up on Ballycoolin, and its a bit rough going from Mountview towards Mulhuddart.

Just poor implementations of traffic management.

I'm struggling to think of anything else right now. Needless to say, I'm not going to do any work today, think about this, and may or may not come back with a list.

Gaspode

I'd agree that traffic is probably the most common peeve I have about D15 (and I walk to work!). It takes an age to drive anywhere.

ongarite wrote: »

Must find a better store around, they seem to be surviving on pure captive market rather than retail excellence.

(OT I know but I can recommend the one beside Tesco in Finglas, really nice people working there, their fish section seems to be very good - always well stocked and the guys know their stuff.)

Dravokivich

Taking up the round about at the end of Diswellstown Bridge leading into the back of Carpenterstown.

The arrangement of cycle paths becoming lanes at that junction as well.

jeffk

Omackeral wrote: »

Tee hee...

Sorry only reading your post properly on a pc , Tee hee?

Larbre34

Living on the rural fringes, I'm going for graffiti and fly tipping. Ill back up the lads on the stupid traffic bottlenecks as well

Which reminds me, what utter moron of a fool and imbecile decided it was a good idea to close and resurface the section of Snugborough Road extension at Power City and the Coolmine Link Road on Monday night last? The Monday night of the busiest shopping week of the year when all the shops were open till 10 or 11? If I was a trader in the area I'd be livid. Breathtaking.

Ed Winchester

My pet peeve is the unjustified reputation D15 seems to have.

Finglas Incubus

To echo similar views, I would have to say traffic, specifically under capacity of the existing infrastructure to handle current needs. I've seen a log of change in the area over the past 30 odd years and to be fair, the vast majority has been positive. The area has seen significant (over?) development in terms of housing from the late 90's on, the planners really missed a trick in terms of providing the necessary road infrastructure to properly serve the growing needs of the area. To be fair, we did get some good roads (N3 bypass, Ongar etc) but there are too many bottlenecks in between. The Blanch Centre is one example where access was not properly considered, its a real pain in the neck to get around if its not your intended destination.

Another related point is the historical lack of forward planning for school places in the area, the dept of E&C is starting to catch up but I hope it ain't too late...

Morag

and that people seem to think that All of D15 is Blanchardtown.

eviltwin

Traffic esp on the old Naven road in Mulhuddart, the constant roadworks and path closures ( not good when you are a runner ) and the amount of horses everywhere, its sad to see.

KGLady

Larbre34 wrote: »

Which reminds me, what utter moron of a fool and imbecile decided it was a good idea to close and resurface the section of Snugborough Road extension at Power City and the Coolmine Link Road on Monday night last? The Monday night of the busiest shopping week of the year when all the shops were open till 10 or 11? If I was a trader in the area I'd be livid. Breathtaking.

On the flipside, I came past that section of roadworks on the way home from late night shopping at the centre and was glad to see it being done at night I didn't even mind the slight delay it caused. I just waited the extra 3-4 mins and kept my fingers crossed that it'd be all done by morning so that my school run down to Scoil Oilibhéir wouldn't be a complete mare on Tuesday morning. All credit to them, come Tuesday morning it was perfect and rush hour traffic was no worse than usual

KGLady

Finglas Incubus wrote: »

The Blanch Centre is one example where access was not properly considered, its a real pain in the neck to get around if its not your intended destination.

True sign of how much a D15 veteran you are, is how skillfully you can navigate your way in and out of the area on both Sunday afternoons and the entire month before Christmas without going anywhere near the Centre

Toto Wolfcastle

KGLady wrote: »

On the flipside, I came past that section of roadworks on the way home from late night shopping at the centre and was glad to see it being done at night I didn't even mind the slight delay it caused. I just waited the extra 3-4 mins and kept my fingers crossed that it'd be all done by morning so that my school run down to Scoil Oilibhéir wouldn't be a complete mare on Tuesday morning. All credit to them, come Tuesday morning it was perfect and rush hour traffic was no worse than usual

I was there at 10 on Tuesday morning and traffic was much worse than it usually would be. Great that the road has been done though.

Omackeral

jeffk wrote: »

Sorry only reading your post properly on a pc , Tee hee?

Yeah you said Bell/End of the village... Bellend like. Sophmoric, granted! Was a great post though Jeff.

Another peeve I have is the Clonee fly-over near Kepak. It's fine when coming from Littlepace into Damastown but to come from the other direction is an absolute chore. There's no reason why it shouldnt be two way traffic and if anything, it negates the whole premise of a by-pass as it hemorrhages a constant flow through the village! I remember the road going from Molloys on the Clonsilla Rd towards The Clonsilla Inn used to be a one way street and was a disaster. I wonder what prompted that particular change. Most likely the opening of the Diswellstown Bridge. Would anyone agree on the Clonee fly-over?

jeffk

Omackeral wrote: »

Yeah you said Bell/End of the village... Bellend like. Sophmoric, granted! Was a great post though Jeff.

Another peeve I have is the Clonee fly-over near Kepak. It's fine when coming from Littlepace into Damastown but to come from the other direction is an absolute chore. There's no reason why it shouldnt be two way traffic and if anything, it negates the whole premise of a by-pass as it hemorrhages a constant flow through the village! I remember the road going from Molloys on the Clonsilla Rd towards The Clonsilla Inn used to be a one way street and was a disaster. I wonder what prompted that particular change. Most likely the opening of the Diswellstown Bridge. Would anyone agree on the Clonee fly-over?

Ah i get you now , very clever even if i Didn't mean it . Thanks , Ma is on a walking stick , so drive more around the area than I would like to .

I totally agree about the fly over .
I used to use Castlecurragh a Damastown as a shortcut , then i realised one day im literally going past Aldi or Lidl as a "shortcut" to them .

Oh just remembered when going from Clonlee onto the N3 the two lanes into one is stupid . Get a few cars in the right lane and then one or two chance their arm an try an get ahead in the left lane .

miamee

I've lived my whole life in the area but there are still little or no pubs that would entice me to just go.out for a few drinks in D15, really not much variety IMO.
(Granted most of the time I socialise with people not from the area so usually city centre is handier.)

dodzy

Omackeral wrote: »

Yeah you said Bell/End of the village... Bellend like. Sophmoric, granted! Was a great post though Jeff.

Another peeve I have is the Clonee fly-over near Kepak. It's fine when coming from Littlepace into Damastown but to come from the other direction is an absolute chore. There's no reason why it shouldnt be two way traffic and if anything, it negates the whole premise of a by-pass as it hemorrhages a constant flow through the village!

+1

Omackeral wrote: »

I remember the road going from Molloys on the Clonsilla Rd towards The Clonsilla Inn used to be a one way street and was a disaster. I wonder what prompted that particular change. Most likely the opening of the Diswellstown Bridge

it used to be a 2 way street, until the clowns spent 200k on converting it to a 1 way system. Total disaster. All traffic pushed onto the road between millennium park and powercity. Then the clowns had to undo the mess, at a significant cost of course, and put it back to its original state.

dodzy

Huntstown stores to lidl. Just over 1/2km and 8 sets of traffic lights. Madness.

Murt10

I'm not even living near it, but every time I drive by that fully functioning train station at Hansfield, I get annoyed. I know they are doing something about it now, and about time too.

if I was living there I would have organised a protest and blocked off the N3 at rush hour once a week and caused mayhem.

That would have made the opening of the station a priority withe the Government and the Minister for Transport in particular. The station would have opened years ago.

As for the funds not being available. Look at the speed that the work was carried out at further down the N3 at the Centre. Those funds should have been temporarily diverted.

ongarite

Murt10 wrote: »

I'm not even living near it, but every time I drive by that fully functioning train station at Hansfield, I get annoyed. I know they are doing something about it now, and about time too.

if I was living there I would have organised a protest and blocked off the N3 at rush hour once a week and caused mayhem.

That would have made the opening of the station a priority withe the Government and the Minister for Transport in particular. The station would have opened years ago.

As for the funds not being available. Look at the speed that the work was carried out at further down the N3 at the Centre. Those funds should have been temporarily diverted.

Not quite as simple as you think.
The problem with getting the station open was/is to do with the ownership of the land up to the station. The builder of Ongar/Hansfield should have completed the access road but went bust/into administration during the downturn and the ownership of land went into limbo for a long time.

BabysCoffee

ongarite wrote: »

Good idea for a thread,

My pet peeve is the farce of a shop called "Petshop Superstore", the aquarium section specifically.
Poor to no stock of filters and accessories for tanks that they sell and sporadic stocking of fish breeds.

To top it off yesterday, the aquarium section was closed for no reason I could see, even after asking staff. Store wasn't closing for another 3 hours.

Must find a better store around, they seem to be surviving on pure captive market rather than retail excellence.

This is an Irish owned company. I'm sure they'd be interested in your comments. Have you emailed them or sent a letter to the manager?

gabsdot40

My pet peeve is that when they put double yellow lines on the road in mulhuddart village opposite bikes and babes, they left a small part of the road without lines, just enough space for one car to park.
This means that if you want to get past, you have to drive half into the other lane, often a van will be parked there which means you can't see past it.
Very dangerous and annoying.

Turbulent Bill

Finglas Incubus wrote: »

The Blanch Centre is one example where access was not properly considered, its a real pain in the neck to get around if its not your intended destination.

I always thought that was genius by the developers of the Centre - you often have to go around/through it even if it isn't your destination, thereby bringing lots of people to it who otherwise don't need to go. Fingal planners should have stopped this at the outset, but didn't for whatever reason.

My pet peeve (that I can think of) is that the Centre has sucked all the decent coffee shops towards it, so if you just want a decent coffee you have to brave the masses. The Roastery is a great escape from this, but is only open Mon-Fri.

spooky donkey

I have to agree with the op looaing the roundabout on the blakestown road has been a disaster. coming home from work some days im queing down the hill in mulhadart waiting to even turn to join another que to even get to them lights. they have really sloewed things there.

im worried that the new junction they are building at will also be a disaster giving that it will have 2 sets of lights on it. As it is that junction at tracta moters is a black spot.

Also on a slightly different matter I feel that D15 is concidered higher risk as oposed to other parts of Dublin so I think we have higher insurance costs.

jeffk

It sure is , quinn / liberty ask for a photocopy of your licence and to fill in a form to get a quote .

As i told the operator its not to high to have an office in .

daymobrew

spooky donkey wrote: »

im worried that the new junction they are building at will also be a disaster giving that it will have 2 sets of lights on it. As it is that junction at tracta moters is a black spot.

That junction is different because it has 5 legs and they have to operate individually.

Murt10

In each of them that I am aware of, in order to park your car you have to get it at right angles to the way you are driving up and down the aisles(?). This task is often made much more difficult, or even impossible, if you have one car parked too near or on a white line. Then when you come out the problem has often been made worse.

Compare this with Superquinn shopping centre in Lucan. The entrance to each space is at a 45 degree angle to the direction you are driving in. Much, much easier to drive in, and reverse out of your space.

Given that the car parks are resurfaced and re-painted each year surely the supermarket owners should make using their carpark as simple to use as possible

jeffk

Murt10 wrote: »

In each of them that I am aware of, in order to park your car you have to get it at right angles to the way you are driving up and down the aisles(?). This task is often made much more difficult, or even impossible, if you have one car parked too near or on a white line. Then when you come out the problem has often been made worse.

Compare this with Superquinn shopping centre in Lucan. The entrance to each space is at a 45 degree angle to the direction you are driving in. Much, much easier to drive in, and reverse out of your space.

Given that the car parks are resurfaced and re-painted each year surely the supermarket owners should make using their carpark as simple to use as possible

Do you not think that size is a much bigger(pun not intended) issue ? Also I had a great idea for people on/over the white line , its above!


Many times I have the Mother with me an she has had operations on her knees and more often than not I have to let her out before going into the space. I’m big myself and find it challenging getting into a space and getting out of the car at times.


I tried the diagonal parking in liffey valley and found it a nightmare , so much that a girl nicely banged her door off my car twice with me sitting in it.


Id have to say it goes down to greed , why lose precious parking spaces to make em bigger etc , when the truth of the matter most of the times the car parks aren’t even full , so this is a non issues , but try telling the powers that be this !

jeffk

Oh and while we are at it , I have one that I avoid but I would hate it if I didn’t :


Green/dunnes car park , how come people ALWAYS parallel park where there isnt places , its the row to the left of the walkway if you look over to Know how etc

daymobrew

jeffk wrote: »

I tried the diagonal parking in liffey valley and found it a nightmare , so much that a girl nicely banged her door off my car twice with me sitting in it.

I love the diagonal parking in Liffey Valley.

jeffk wrote: »

Green/dunnes car park , how come people ALWAYS parallel park where there isnt places , its the row to the left of the walkway if you look over to Know how etc

Laziness. And a very elevated sense of self importance. It's the same reason that people park disabled persons parking spaces.

KGLady

jeffk wrote: »

Many times I have the Mother with me an she has had operations on her knees and more often than not I have to let her out before going into the space. I’m big myself and find it challenging getting into a space and getting out of the car at times.

I hear you on this as a parent of small ones. We have a 5yo, 4yo and a newborn and getting them all in and out of the car in a sliver of a parking space is a NIGHTMARE. Particularly getting them back in safely and being sure they are buckled in securely when its impossible to open the car door fully, and its not viable to pull out of the space with so many little ones. I love places with proper parent and child parking spaces that give you extra room to manage the kids, and by extension I pi$$ing hate lazy fecks without small kids who will park in them just so they don't have to walk far. Tesco in Roselawn and Aldi in Clonee in particular have this kind of bottom dweller frequently.

I've been known to verbally savage people who take the last P&C space, get out of their car alone and stroll to the shop while I struggle with small kids in a regular space. :mad: I know its a waste of my breath to complain to them, but at least it lets me vent the frustration instead of being grumpy and ending up getting short with the kids.

athtrasna

The 38 bus route - it's great that they extended it but almost every bus sees a driver change at either Parnell Square or Trinity, adding 5 mins plus to the journey. The weekend/off peak schedule is brutal too.

Shopping centre traffic delaying me getting to places I need to be most weekends and for the month of December.

The lack of a decent Tesco (I usually shop at the one on the Navan Road now rather than go to the dump in Roselawn).

Omackeral

athtrasna wrote: »

The 38 bus route - it's great that they extended it but almost every bus sees a driver change at either Parnell Square or Trinity, adding 5 mins plus to the journey. The weekend/off peak schedule is brutal too.

Shopping centre traffic delaying me getting to places I need to be most weekends and for the month of December.

The lack of a decent Tesco (I usually shop at the one on the Navan Road now rather than go to the dump in Roselawn).

You wouldn't even know the one in Mulhuddart Village is there if you weren't looking for it purposefully. An awful location and exiting onto the main street is a nightmare.

January

They are really going to have to do something about the car park where Tesco Mulhuddart is. Remove the parking spaces outside the gate to widen the gap even because one car waiting to come out and one car turning to come in can be a nightmare at times.

KGLady

I noticed there is a new supermarket open in Mulhuddart Village (today was my first time seeing it) I think its the unit that was bike shop, facing the Spar and Post Office. The reason I noticed it, was someone doing a 6pt turn trying to park in front of it and leaving the road impassable in both directions for a time. Doesn't bode well for an already congested spot.

Morag

Omackeral wrote: »

You wouldn't even know the one in Mulhuddart Village is there if you weren't looking for it purposefully. An awful location and exiting onto the main street is a nightmare.

But at least it's an option to get milk late at night instead of heading down to the Tesco at Roselawn.

KGLady wrote: »

I noticed there is a new supermarket open in Mulhuddart Village (today was my first time seeing it) I think its the unit that was bike shop, facing the Spar and Post Office. The reason I noticed it, was someone doing a 6pt turn trying to park in front of it and leaving the road impassable in both directions for a time. Doesn't bode well for an already congested spot.

That used to be an asian store, which had some nice bits and pieces like 1l of soya sauce and mirin but it changed hands recently and seems to cater for more sudan/nigerian food stuffs now, with no real shelves and stuff just randomly stacked up in heaps or on palettes.

Wils110

Morag wrote: »

But at least it's an option to get milk late at night instead of heading down to the Tesco at Roselawn.

There's a 24 hr garage in hartstown to get your milk another option


My pet peave is people who live in carpenters town but call it castleknock my favourite one live in whitestown and call it Blanchardstown


I met a girl before doing the whole D4 accent crap said she was from blanchardstown oh what part she the proceeded to tell me she lived in corduff

miamee

Wils110 wrote: »

My pet peave is people who live in carpenters town but call it castleknock my favourite one live in whitestown and call it Blanchardstown

I live in Whitestown (newer part) and my address *is* Blanchardstown, it is on my mortgage papers etc. as Blanchardstown. I'm from the area anyway so was a bit skeptical at the start but I'm hardly going to change it.

Morag

miamee wrote: »

I live in Whitestown (newer part) and my address *is* Blanchardstown, it is on my mortgage papers etc. as Blanchardstown. I'm from the area anyway so was a bit skeptical at the start but I'm hardly going to change it.

And parts of whitestown have clonsilla or mulhudart on the deeds due to how the land is parceled out. Sure all of d15 gets called the greater blanchardstown area and land regisration wise it and Ashtown are the barony of castleknock.

Wils110

Where in whitestown has clonsilla...white chapel isn't even clonsilla lol

Wils110

Morag wrote: »

And parts of whitestown have clonsilla or mulhudart on the deeds due to how the land is parceled out. Sure all of d15 gets called the greater blanchardstown area and land regisration wise it and Ashtown are the barony of castleknock.

Did Wilson Moore do that parceling out or Christina when she was knocking em out for remax

Morag

Wils110 wrote: »

Where in whitestown has clonsilla...white chapel isn't even clonsilla lol

If you are interested you can do a search on it, the reference section of the Library will have the relevant maps.

January

Passed by where Bikes and Babes used to be yesterday and it looks like Mulhuddart is getting a Dry Cleaners...

Morag

That will be good, more and more local people it seems want the option of not going to the center.

Wils110

Morag wrote: »

If you are interested you can do a search on it, the reference section of the Library will have the relevant maps.

Parish boundaries lol

Morag

Nope.

The lack of a good community directory, D15 is big enough to be a large town and most of them will have such things, instead of trying to trawl through various directories and websites.

Caroline_ie

We had ONE bookshop in D15, Borders. Now we have none. That's quite sad considering the demographics of the area.