Provari & ?

UsedToWait

Hi guys,

After getting great advice on this thread to get me started, I'm still vaping away on the Kanger Twist kit, and loving it - not missing the cigs one bit!

Managed to convert 2 family members to the vaping cause too, so it's all good.

Now, in my original thread, I said I only wanted to buy once, and that I wouldn't become an equipment junkie, but the advice given at the time was if you're going to buy once, then it's a provari you need...

Personally I'm still happy with my kit, but I have had inklings that I'd love to see what all the fuss is about with the Provari - the bro has also been asking about it too, so I said I'd ask on here...

So my question is - what kit do you use along with your Provari, and why?

I'm not much of a techie, so I'd say I'd want a 'fit & forget' type of dealie, but the bro is into his electronics / fixing shizz, so I'd say he'd be into his rebuildables etc..

So what are the best options?

Thanks in advance for any help

krissovo

UsedToWait wrote: »

So my question is - what kit do you use along with your Provari, and why?

Boge standard resistance cartomiser and a prive tank - my daily vape. Beautiful flavor, smoke machine like vapor and I even get a throat hit with 6 mg juice. It is very consistent and after a short learning curve tech and mess free as it has a small screw filler plug. It looks like a super model on the provari

Ebarron pro dripper - My evening & traveling vape, unbelievably easy device to use with sooooo much flavor and tonnes of vapor. I need 10mg to get the same throat hit as 6mg in the boge. I can rebuild it in minutes (3 to be exact) and I can also buy 5 replacement wicks if I do not want to rebuild (30 seconds to change) for €12 which would last me 3 or 4 months.

Vivi Nova - It sucks in standard form compared to the above but I have one I built with mesh that is half decent that I use now and again.

Gryzor

Anything with a 510 connection really, apart from the likes of the vision egos and kanger t#'s, as these have skirts. Can get an adapter, but I've never had much luck with them...

Its a great tool for rebuildables, checking resistance, adjusting voltage etc...you wouldn't buy one just that that, but if you have one its great to have in the toolbox...

Stefan_Cork

i second that Vivi Nova - the standard not the mini. simple no fuss easy to top up, very easy to swap heads every 2-4weeks
this is based on a starter impression as rebuildables can be gotten at same time too but not only, as it may put you off,
you always need a simple solution around that works

Elbow

Arry actv4w tank & Boge SR Carto - like krissova a carto tank is my daily setup, holds plenty of juice, doesn't leak and pretty good flavor.

Clockworks RDA - My dripping atty of choice, one of the best bits of kit I've ever bought, easy to rebuild and flavor country!

Dean_Mc

I started with a twist kit and CE4 heads. As it was the only kit I tried it was fine for me. I then tried Kanger T3 (bottom coil heads) which I found much better for me, they have a cooler vaper and a looser draw which I like, some people prefer a hotter tighter draw and in that case go with the T2 as it is top coil. After going to a local meet I got to try a load of devices but the one that stood out was the provari (mini). The vapour production was much better. My understanding from asking around is that it has to do with the regulation the device puts out. I am not a techie but something makes the vapour better.

I purchased a provari mini last week, spending about 220 for the kit with 2 800mah efest batteries, a charger and a 510 to ego adapter. I din't go with the extension or bigger batteries. While this is a lot of money I can honestly say it is worth it. The vapour is better and I can pick out flavours better in good quality juices. Cheap juices still taste cheap, so it wont make crappy juices better but it will improve good stuff. I would consider myself a chain vaper and from a full charge at 7am I get all the way until five, replace the battery and then I am good for the night. The batteries are tiny so I just carry the extra in my pocket.

In terms of current gear I use T3's exclusively but use K-510 heads for testing new liquids as they are 1ml, cheap as chips and pack a punch. The plan is to get a ProDripper early next year to complete my kit. All in all I love my mini, I have used it exclusively and don't intend on buying any other Mod, I fully intend to try new heads as they become available though but the only new mod I would consider is a V3 mini if ProVapes come out with one and I would sell the V2 to cover the bulk of the cost.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

if you're going for a rebuildable dripper I'd say go for the bulli a2 classic, but then I haven't used the ebaron dripper which does seem to be the device du jour

Lucutus

Best thing I've bought so far has been the eBaron Dripper, a couple of replacement coil packs, (for the additional ceramic cups), and some wick and wire.

Recoiled and rewicked it last night, works first time, no messing, great flavour, great vapour, works well on an Ego, better again on the Vamo. The thing is pure quality.

kiffy

I got these yesterday from TBS http://www.thebestshop.eu/shop/clearomizers/195-vision-stv-nova-tank.html. Using the long wicks with it @2.4 Same as the normal Viva Nova but no plastic to easily crack.

Have been looking for something unbreakable (if possible) as I have ruined several clearomisers by getting off the couch with the Provari on my lap and dropping the lot on the floor cracking my tanks, the Vision STV Nova tank is metal with 2 plastic slits to view the liquid level, so that should be fairly sturdy, and hard to beat the Nova tanks (gone off the T3's)

Tony Soprano.

How do you recharge the standard 18350 battery? It's not listed for the Trustfire charger.

Tony Soprano.

This charger will work for the 18350 but says nothing about the 18490. So if you also wanted to buy the 18490 with an extension cap, then you would need two chargers?

kiffy

Tony Soprano. wrote: »

How do you recharge the standard 18350 battery? It's not listed for the Trustfire charger.

You can charge them with the Trustfire TR-001, they are listed on the TBS site with their Trustfire TR-001 charger. http://www.thebestshop.eu/shop/vv-mods/146-trustfire-tr-001-charger.html
Just as as well as it's what I use to charge all my 18??? batteries :eek:
I would hazard a guess that ESI omitted to add the 18350 to the list.

Tony Soprano.

kiffy wrote: »

You can charge them with the Trustfire TR-001, they are listed on the TBS site with their Trustfire TR-001 charger. http://www.thebestshop.eu/shop/vv-mods/146-trustfire-tr-001-charger.html
Just as as well as it's what I use to charge all my 18??? batteries :eek:
I would hazard a guess that ESI omitted to add the 18350 to the list.

Cheers Kiffy. I just received an email from Paul at ESI confirming what you said.

Crikey they're fast replying to emails. Great service.

18 batteries? Holy crap!

kiffy

Tony Soprano. wrote: »

Cheers Kiffy. I just received an email from Paul at ESI confirming what you said.

Crikey they're fast replying to emails. Great service.

18 batteries? Holy crap!

Your dead right Namesake, just had a few emails with Sabrina, they must never clock off like the rest of us
The charger I would like to get is the Trustfire TR-003 the 4 berth charger, but not available on any site.

Sorry namesake I didn't mean I had 18 batteries when I posted 18???, I used the term to state 18350, 18500, 18650, just replaced the last 3 numbers with ??? to cover all 3 types of battery with one reference.

krissovo

kiffy wrote: »

The charger I would like to get is the Trustfire TR-003 the 4 berth charger, but not available on any site.

You must either be vaping using the Large Hadron Collider as a atomizer or have a small vaping army hidden in the basement to need a 4 berth charger.:D

kiffy

krissovo wrote: »

You must either be vaping using the Large Hadron Collider as a atomizer or have a small vaping army hidden in the basement to need a 4 berth charger.:D

I was a good boy scout "always be prepared dib, dib, dib"
I would have a better chance finding the Higgs Boson particle in my garden shed, than I would successfully coiling an Aga T, so might try using Hadron Collider on my STV Nova Tank

krissovo

I think you may get a bill to repair my laptop as I just sprayed vodka and coke out of my nostrils onto my laptop keyboard reading your reply:D

kiffy

krissovo wrote: »

I think you may get a bill to repair my laptop as I just sprayed vodka and coke out of my nostrils onto my laptop keyboard reading your reply:D

An awful good waste of Vodka. I hope it was just vodka n coke that came out your nostrils, and no green bits with it

UsedToWait

krissovo wrote: »

Boge standard resistance cartomiser and a prive tank - my daily vape. Beautiful flavor, smoke machine like vapor and I even get a throat hit with 6 mg juice. It is very consistent and after a short learning curve tech and mess free as it has a small screw filler plug. It looks like a super model on the provari

Ebarron pro dripper - My evening & traveling vape, unbelievably easy device to use with sooooo much flavor and tonnes of vapor. I need 10mg to get the same throat hit as 6mg in the boge. I can rebuild it in minutes (3 to be exact) and I can also buy 5 replacement wicks if I do not want to rebuild (30 seconds to change) for €12 which would last me 3 or 4 months.

Ok, let's suppose I might have decided that I'm worth it and am about to go on a masssive Christmas spending splurge :pac:

Here's what's in my basket(s).

Can someone please look and see if I'm missing anything I'll end up needing, and also tell me which is the adaptor I'll need to fit Kanger T3s on the Provari..

- Provari v2

- E Baron Pro Dripper
- Dripper Replacement Heads

- AW18490/18500 battery x2
- Trustfire TR001 charger

- Prive Tank with Drip Tip
- Boge 510 Cartomisers - Standard Resistance

Dean_Mc

Its a 510 connection so you need an ego adapter. Also I would goo the mini. There are lovely telescope modes coming in January for it which means you can go from stealth to stick and get a range of batteries. Also ive been using the efest batteries which are cheaper and last longer in some cases.

UsedToWait

Shopping basket updated thanks to Dean's advice...

- Provari Mini

- E Baron Pro Dripper
- Dripper Replacement Heads

- EFest IMR18350 battery x 3
- Trustfire TR001 charger

- Prive Tank with Drip Tip
- Boge 510 Cartomisers - Standard Resistance

- 510 to Ego adaptor x2

That look ok? Does the charger work for that size batteries?

Dean_Mc

Yup,

I use that charger with those batteries. I only bought two though as they last well over a full day between the two. I also got 1x 18500 and 1x 18650 for when the telescope mode is out. It takes both sizes by extending it. The ego adapters are cheap but you should really only need one.

For everything bar the Prive and Drip Tip, you should be able to get it from e-smokeireland.ie They do free delivery (he puts it registered post though) and if you put boards in the voucher box you get 15% off which is a fair chunk as you are going to be on the bad side of €250.

Everything you have I have too bar the prive. I am on the fence about it as it is still prone to degrading. Although I may buy it once the killer comes out http://www.houseofmods.co.uk/ Which is like a super 510 atty for tanks made buy the guys who do the e-dripper.

Dean_Mc

If your on facebook don't forget to join the group:

http://www.facebook.com/groups/irishvaping/

They are very nice and you will get all sorts of help too.

Here is a picture of my mini next to some bottles, it will give you an idea of the size of it, it's small but not too much so, fits in the pocket nice. I'm really glad I went with it instead of the larger one.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=531047686905492&set=o.331901456906099&type=3&theater

The Pontiac

Would the E Barron Pro be a big step-up from a Viva Nova? The eBarron pro is not cheap.

Also what gives the best results - pure cotton wick, fibreglass/silica wick or wire mesh?

Dean_Mc

Wicks question I'll leave to others. As for the pro dipper here is my comments from facebook on it.

So after using it as my sole means of juice delivery I can say the eBaron Pro Dripper comes highly recommended. The only use I have for tanks now is for my extreme menthol other than that everything goes through the dripper. Flavours I thought were meh have a new dimension to them were as flavours I love are even more exquisite. Apart from learning the rythym of manual dripping and changing the coil for the first time it has been nothing but smooth sailing. All that is left is to get the Gemini drip tip and the telescopic conversion mod so I can go from mini to mega sized on my provari mini. My ultimate kit, almost complete. Vape heaven is in reach.

The only thing I will say is it is a dripper so you need to drip, this wont suit in all situations, driving for instance but I use my dripper 99% of the time otherwise.

The Pontiac

Good review Dean. They do sound pretty awesome, and I'm wanting one now.

grindle

<Ollie> wrote: »

Good review Dean. They do sound pretty awesome, and I'm wanting one now.

Whaddayknow?

<Ollie> wrote: »

Would the E Barron Pro be a big step-up from a Viva Nova? The eBarron pro is not cheap.

Also what gives the best results - pure cotton wick, fibreglass/silica wick or wire mesh?

Big step up.

Mesh and cotton wick are both great, but the cotton needs to be changed a lot more often.
Then again, mesh is a bit of a pain in the arse.

The Pontiac

grindle wrote: »

Whaddayknow?


Big step up.

Don't you like it? Will post in that thread now.

Mesh and cotton wick are both great, but the cotton needs to be changed a lot more often.
Then again, mesh is a bit of a pain in the arse.

That's what I thought too. The mesh looks really difficult after watching a youtube video earlier.

grindle

I was just pointing out it going on sale as you mentioned it. Unfortunately heliheliguy scooped you.

Any atty with a chamber will be better than one without.
Vivi Nova with it's top coil beside the mouth=>No chamber=>Less flavour.
eBaron's drippers are a big step up.
But I'd wait for the Killer 705 to come out unless you're gagging for a dripper. Maybe grab a supremely cheap Phoenix to do you in the meantime and give you a harsh crash course in setting up a coil?

With mesh, it is a pain to get working for the first while (usually due to lack of patience), but the simplicity and lack of attention I have to pay to my ecig once it's done is worth it.
No more having to rewick every 2-3 days!
No more having to rewick to swap a flavour out (more a problem with cotton than silica).
Constantly awesome flavours that only falter once the coil is gunked up (took 5-ish days to reach that level with my super-steeped Virginia Prime - usually destroys my cotton wicks within the two day mark).

Dean_Mc

<Ollie> wrote: »

Don't you like it? Will post in that thread now.



That's what I thought too. The mesh looks really difficult after watching a youtube video earlier.

I don't think it was him selling it. Looks like it is gone though all in all its a good buy. As I said I use it for everything bar driving and going out. The only reason I don't use it out is because I don't fancy direct dripping pissed. I tend to just fill a kanger full of extreme menthol and travel light.

Dean_Mc

grindle wrote: »

I was just pointing out it going on sale as you mentioned it. Unfortunately heliheliguy scooped you.

Any atty with a chamber will be better than one without.
Vivi Nova with it's top coil beside the mouth=>No chamber=>Less flavour.
eBaron's drippers are a big step up.
But I'd wait for the Killer 705 to come out unless you're gagging for a dripper. Maybe grab a supremely cheap Phoenix to do you in the meantime and give you a harsh crash course in setting up a coil?

With mesh, it is a pain to get working for the first while (usually due to lack of patience), but the simplicity and lack of attention I have to pay to my ecig once it's done is worth it.
No more having to rewick every 2-3 days!
No more having to rewick to swap a flavour out (more a problem with cotton than silica).
Constantly awesome flavours that only falter once the coil is gunked up (took 5-ish days to reach that level with my super-steeped Virginia Prime - usually destroys my cotton wicks within the two day mark).

My understanding of the killer is that it is basically a replacement for carto's. You would put it in a tank. My intention is to buy one of these for when I am out and about to replace my kanger t3's

grindle

Once I can confirm multiple coils are possible that's precisely my intention too.
It. Looks. Ah. May. Zing.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

grindle

Bang on.

Truer to life than you'd imagi... Nah you'd probably imagine it was true to life anyway.

The Pontiac

grindle wrote: »

I was just pointing out it going on sale as you mentioned it. Unfortunately heliheliguy scooped you.

Any atty with a chamber will be better than one without.
Vivi Nova with it's top coil beside the mouth=>No chamber=>Less flavour.
eBaron's drippers are a big step up.
But I'd wait for the Killer 705 to come out unless you're gagging for a dripper. Maybe grab a supremely cheap Phoenix to do you in the meantime and give you a harsh crash course in setting up a coil?

With mesh, it is a pain to get working for the first while (usually due to lack of patience), but the simplicity and lack of attention I have to pay to my ecig once it's done is worth it.
No more having to rewick every 2-3 days!
No more having to rewick to swap a flavour out (more a problem with cotton than silica).
Constantly awesome flavours that only falter once the coil is gunked up (took 5-ish days to reach that level with my super-steeped Virginia Prime - usually destroys my cotton wicks within the two day mark).

Have to get a dripper now. Will check out the Killer 705 and see if I've got the patience to wait for it. Or i might just get the cheaper Phoenix to keep me going.

Think I might give the mesh a bash, sounds like the business once you've mastered it.

Thanks a lot for the advice.

Dean_Mc wrote: »

I don't think it was him selling it. Looks like it is gone though all in all its a good buy. As I said I use it for everything bar driving and going out. The only reason I don't use it out is because I don't fancy direct dripping pissed. I tend to just fill a kanger full of extreme menthol and travel light.

Yeah I missed out there, bummer. I also have a Kanger that I can use for driving, and when drunk. Can't have too much gear for vaping. Something for every occasion!

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

http://bulli-smoker.de/index.php?a=67&lang=eng bulli a2 classic in stainless steel

http://bulli-smoker.de/index.php?a=177&lang=eng drip tip adapter to turn it into a dripper

postage takes about a week

The Pontiac

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

http://bulli-smoker.de/index.php?a=67&lang=eng bulli a2 classic in stainless steel

http://bulli-smoker.de/index.php?a=177&lang=eng drip tip adapter to turn it into a dripper

postage takes about a week

Have you tried it?

Dean_Mc

I still think your better off getting the dripper, killer or not.

The long and short is that most people buying the killer will already have the dripper and will basically use it as a dripper with a tank..

In other words... you should get both.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

<Ollie> wrote: »

Have you tried it?

yeah been using one as a dripper for a good few months now, it's pretty much all I use since I got it

heliguyheliguy

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

yeah been using one as a dripper for a good few months now, it's pretty much all I use since I got it

Would it be fair to say that it functions like a spheroid?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

looks similar enough to the spheroid from what I remember of the spheroid

The Pontiac

Dean_Mc wrote: »

I still think your better off getting the dripper, killer or not.

The long and short is that most people buying the killer will already have the dripper and will basically use it as a dripper with a tank..

In other words... you should get both.

Off of stock on ESI. Just wondered how often do you have to drip feed them? Sounds like a pain if you have keep reaching to your pocket for a bottle of juice.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

yeah been using one as a dripper for a good few months now, it's pretty much all I use since I got it

Probably just as good as the Ebarron, same price with the adapter too, and could be used as both. Would you have to keep feeding it juice when using it as a dripper?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

yeah whenever the flavour drops off

i normally get 8-10 pulls out of it before it needs to be refilled. it depends on how thick the juice is and the type of bottle im using too.. some let out big drops, some small drops

The Pontiac

Probably worth it for the better vape.

grindle

Dripping is definitely worth it for the better vape. That's why some of us make the extra effort to make genesis atties work - drip-flavour, tank quantity.

Can't speak for the Bulli but from what I've read of the lads' escapades, it seems less work than getting a genesis working, but still has a learning curve, but once it works it's

*insert Digby superlative here*

Not sure how it works with mesh though.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

grindle wrote: »

That's why some of us make the extra effort to make genesis atties work - drip-flavour, tank quantity.

always have to get those digs in don't you

bastard

Dean_Mc

Pro Dripper or No Dripper...

grindle

Or cheap dripper then Killer dripper which doubles as a tank dripper?

Not everybody has the means, Dean. Except you, cos you're mean, Dean.

Dean_Mc

grindle wrote: »

Or cheap dripper then Killer dripper which doubles as a tank dripper?

Not everybody has the means, Dean. Except you, cos you're mean, Dean.

Are we as a group not the same people that spent just shy of €100 euro per week on smokes?

grindle

Dean_Mc wrote: »

Are we as a group not the same people that spent just shy of €100 euro per week on smokes?

You and most may be (and I'm a fan of that argument with pack-smokers), but I as an ex-rollie-smoker am getting screwed (money-wise - not like it's unfair: my choice) left, right and centred.
An expensive move from tobacco bought in the Netherlands to vaping equipment,
Totally worth it though.
Not as bad as was.deevey has it apparently, so I'm counting whatever lucky stars are hanging over our heads.

UsedToWait

UsedToWait wrote: »

Shopping basket updated thanks to Dean's advice...

- Provari Mini

- E Baron Pro Dripper
- Dripper Replacement Heads

- EFest IMR18350 battery x 3
- Trustfire TR001 charger

- Prive Tank with Drip Tip
- Boge 510 Cartomisers - Standard Resistance

- 510 to Ego adaptor x2

That look ok? Does the charger work for that size batteries?

Happy New Year from me to me!

Ordered all of the above, bar the Prive, from e-smokeireland... (thanks Paul!)

Now, just the Prive tank & Hippo air flow valve, plus maybe the Killer 705, and that's me set for 2013...
(yes, I did say I won't be an equipment junkie, but they're so beautiful)

Happy New Vape to all