Syria rebels unveil cutting-edge homemade tank

senorwipesalot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB1BDrFzFY0

For months Syrian rebels have taken matters into their own hands, but now they’ve seriously stepped up their game: a home-made tank. We’re not just talking about a car with a some metal attached to it; this bad boy features a playstation controller used specifically for moving the tank’s turret.

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My name is URL

It looks pretty indestructible. Apart from the exposed rubber tires like

blaze1

I like the way the rolled over the loose twig.

peterk675

Technically its not a tank :rolleyes: ( had to be said )

Storm 10

Extremely Light armoured vehicle with machine gun. Not a tank.

MadYaker

Not a bad effort. I just hope the syrian army don't have armor piercing rounds.

Hande hoche!

I prefer the Libyans' pimped out pick up trucks.

PseudoFamous

its good that they put headlamps on it. Nice to see some consideration for other road users.

Zillah

Kudos to them for their inventiveness and enterprising attitude. I do, however, have serious concerns over how much protection such a vehicle would provide against even a heavy machine gun, let alone an armor-piercing round or an RPG.

Pilotdude5

It fills the niche of providing protection from small-arms fire while heading to the shop for bread and milk.

senorwipesalot

Pilotdude5 wrote: »

It fills the niche of providing protection from small-arms fire while heading to the shop for bread and milk.

Or trips in to Gamestop for spare parts.

LivelineDipso

I am deeply concered about the Co2 emissions.

I will continue to support NATO as they are working to reduce Co2 on US Nazy bombers so they can slaughter innocent people in an enviromentally ethical manner.

Remmy

I wonder did he manage to get it taxed as commercial

TerrorFirmer

Not even a tank, it's a super lightly armored vehicle - and I doubt it'd last longer than about 5 seconds in the field, looks like a strong breeze would take it out.

Merch

Not cutting edge, not a tank.

Its a very lightly armoured, armoured car.

It wouldnt stand a chance against armour piercing rounds, let alone an RPG.
It may not even be of any protection against ball ammunition.

Jamie Starr

Craig Charles is gonna be impressed.

Rodin

Castro had something like this over 50 years ago

The Aussie

The designer must have been a Tuam Man, Sham II, Sham I is being towed behind a Hi-Ace as we speak.

Lando Griffin

Might as well paint a target on it.
Not very impressive at all.

Remmy

Any military/army guys know if a rpg round would be able to pierce that type of plate?

Pottler

Merch wrote: »

Not cutting edge, not a tank.

Its a very lightly armoured, armoured car.

It wouldnt stand a chance against armour piercing rounds, let alone an RPG.
It may not even be of any protection against ball ammunition.

That's shocking, how low will Assad stoop? Is it used to sterilise rebels?

Merch

Remmy wrote: »

Any military/army guys know if a rpg round would be able to pierce that type of plate?

Not an army locally that has experience of anti tank rockets.
Doesnt look very thick, rpg's can take down a lot of stuff, some modern ones can stop all but the most modern tanks, at the least they might take a wheel off or damage the track if it was exposed.

I wouldnt like to be in that if someone hit it with a hammer

Merch

Pottler wrote: »

That's shocking, how low will Assad stoop? Is it used to sterilise rebels?

huh?

ReacherCreature

Cool stuff. Intuitive, creative and desire all in one. However it wouldn't last long on today's battlefield. Likely will crumple under sustained and heavy fire.

Lenin Skynard

It wouldn't stand a chance against Hypno-Disc.

Johro

Nice effort, 'cutting edge' it ain't.
Love some of the comments though. 'Running over that shrubbery demonstrated the raw power of this formidable weapon.'
Still, ya gotta go with what ya got, and fair play to them. You can't question their bravery.

BillyMitchel

I want one for Christmas.

Border-Rat

Great for dealing with those bastard Christians and Nuns, eh? These people are extremists, they don't want rid of Assad because he's too brutal, they want rid of him because not enough infidel and Christian heads roll.

Johro

Border-Rat wrote: »

Great for dealing with those bastard Christians and Nuns, eh? These people are extremists, they don't want rid of Assad because he's too brutal, they want rid of him because not enough infidel and Christian heads roll.

Bollocks.

Merch

Johro wrote: »

Nice effort, 'cutting edge' it ain't.
Love some of the comments though. 'Running over that shrubbery demonstrated the raw power of this formidable weapon.'
Still, ya gotta go with what ya got, and fair play to them. You can't question their bravery.

They might be better off in a converted jeep/truck
Dont think the Syrian army are going to let it get withing range of them, stands out a bit, so cant really hide it on a street.

Doesn't look easy to get out of, wonder what they call it, the cooker.
Wouldn't fancy it myself.

Pottler

Merch wrote: »

huh?

Ball ammo. I thought they might use it for low shots. "Armoured" car is crap btw, flat sides and 3/4" plate - made to be gone through. A chap with an RPG would go "oh look, target practice-whoooosssshhhbannnnggg" and the playstation controller would get melted.

They make tanks out of stuff that is 8"+ thick and an RPG will still penetrate - it detonates on contact and a shaped charge propells a disc of copper in a molten stream through the steel.

They incorporate sand and ceramics between the steel of tanks and use small explosive charges attatched to the armour as a defence - the charge explodes when the RPG hits it and it basically "reverses" the stream of molten metal. Even that is no guarantee against the latest anti-armour stuff. A depleted uranium shell would go in the front, out the back and keep going for another few hundred meters, with a few bits of rebel still attached. Even the other rebels must think these lads are luders.

If a 50 cal round hit it, the splinters of steel that would be thrown off the back of the plate would kill them all anyway, even if it didn't penetrate, which it would. It would also probably come out the other side.

Heavy stuff is quite ferocious, think of your average block wall - hiding behind it won't work, the rounds will go through, so suddenly you've added chunks of concrete as well as copper jacketed steel bullets to the list of things that hit you. Also, your car door is no protection, nor is your car door, you, your passenger, and their door and the lad standing beside that door. All of those will get the good news from one round. Your engine block might stop one, but only might...

My name is URL

Johro wrote: »

Bollocks.

Only to a certain degree tbh.. not all of the 'rebels' are singing from the same hymn-sheet. There are known extremist groups vying for power alongside those who just want rid of Assad and a more free society.

Border-Rat

Pottler wrote: »

Ball ammo. I thought they might use it for low shots. "Armoured" car is crap btw, flat sides and 3/4" plate - made to be gone through. A chap with an RPG would go "oh look, target practice-whoooosssshhhbannnnggg" and the playstation controller would get melted.

They make tanks out of stuff that is 8"+ thick and an RPG will still penetrate - it detonates on contact and a shaped charge propells a disc of copper in a molten stream through the steel. They incorporate sand and ceramics between the steel of tanks and use small explosive charges attatched to the armour as a defence - the charge explodes when the RPG hits it and it basically "reverses" the stream of molten metal. Even that is no guarantee against the latest anti-armour stuff. A depleted uranium shell would go in the front, out the back and keep going for another few hundred meters, with a few bits of rebel still attached. Even the other rebels must think these lads are luders.

A 4X4 Isuzu with a set of bullbars would shatter the welding/seams/corners of this 'tank' if it rammed it at even moderate speed.

Mind you, we did make our own cars like this in the War of Independence, but times have changed.

dorkacle

Pottler wrote: »

Ball ammo. I thought they might use it for low shots. "Armoured" car is crap btw, flat sides and 3/4" plate - made to be gone through. A chap with an RPG would go "oh look, target practice-whoooosssshhhbannnnggg" and the playstation controller would get melted.

They make tanks out of stuff that is 8"+ thick and an RPG will still penetrate - it detonates on contact and a shaped charge propells a disc of copper in a molten stream through the steel. They incorporate sand and ceramics between the steel of tanks and use small explosive charges attatched to the armour as a defence - the charge explodes when the RPG hits it and it basically "reverses" the stream of molten metal. Even that is no guarantee against the latest anti-armour stuff. A depleted uranium shell would go in the front, out the back and keep going for another few hundred meters, with a few bits of rebel still attached. Even the other rebels must think these lads are luders.

Would the Syrian army have depleted Uranium shells though...?

How well equiped is the Syrian Army?
I'd imagine they at least have RPG's though, sure everyone and their grandmother does at this stage :pac:

Pottler

dorkacle wrote: »

Would the Syrian army have depleted Uranium shells though...?

How well equiped is the Syrian Army?
I'd imagine they at least have RPG's though, sure everyone and their grandmother does at this stage :pac:

They don't need DU shells, a feckin €300 russian rpg would mash it from any angle and they have them. Go any heavier and it would be hard to find bits of the thing. I reckon that driving fast down a bumpy road would do it in anyway. A hosing down with a AK74 would make for a bad day out for everyone inside and a grenade or mine would burst it like a barrel. Take a peek at a MOWAG some time, and they're also fairly crap if you need to play "hide from the man with the rpg". This is to a mowag what a citroen 2cv is to an armoured humvee.

And best of luck when the gun on the satelitte dish mount goes click and needs feeding fresh bang bangs.- "You go Ahmed" - "No, you go Ishmael, I did it last time" -

Border-Rat

dorkacle wrote: »

Would the Syrian army have depleted Uranium shells though...?

How well equiped is the Syrian Army?
I'd imagine they at least have RPG's though, sure everyone and their grandmother does at this stage :pac:

Better equipped than the Iraqi army was (If something flies in there, it's not coming back out), not as well equipped as the Iranian army.

Johro

My name is URL wrote: »

Only to a certain degree tbh.. not all of the 'rebels' are singing from the same hymn-sheet. There are known extremist groups vying for power alongside those who just want rid of Assad and a more free society.

Sure, but talk about sweeping generalisations...

Border-Rat

Johro wrote: »

Bollocks.

Get a clue. No, seriously, would you?

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/christians-a-target-for-syrian-rebels-we-back/story-e6frg6z6-1226494303347

If you're a Christian in Syria and these nutters get a hold of you, you're up **** creek. I guess no-one wants to listen to Nuns in Syria who are terrified of these savages?

I love people who beat their chest all week about Islam yet when the Tories and other plutocrats instruct them to back extremist nutters, the obsequiousness kicks in.

Johro

Border-Rat wrote: »

Get a clue. No, seriously, would you?

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/christians-a-target-for-syrian-rebels-we-back/story-e6frg6z6-1226494303347

If you're a Christian in Syria and these nutters get a hold of you, you're up **** creek. I guess no-one wants to listen to Nuns in Syria who are terrified of these savages?

I love people who beat their chest all week about Islam yet when the Tories and other plutocrats instruct them to back extremist nutters, the obsequiousness kicks in.

Again, I have no love for extremist nutters of any kind, but don't tar all the rebels with the same brush. There are and will always be people who will use any situation to further their own agenda and they are cunts, agreed.

Tomk1

Can't watch vid as snall internet, but sounds like maybe The A-team or The B-team.
Though not funny whats going on over there, it's serious, these people are fighting for their life.

Johro

Border-Rat wrote: »

I love people who beat their chest all week about Islam yet when the Tories and other plutocrats instruct them to back extremist nutters, the obsequiousness kicks in.

Btw, that means nothing to me.

Tom_Cruise

Looks ike it would fly through the NCT

tiger55

MadYaker wrote: »

Not a bad effort. I just hope the syrian army don't have armor piercing rounds.

or AK's lol

Pottler

Tom_Cruise wrote: »

Looks ike it would fly through the NCT

No chance - can't see the wheel nuts.

dttq

My name is URL wrote: »

It looks pretty indestructible. Apart from the exposed rubber tires like

Talking big about taking on the Syrian military when a 9 year old with a pocket knife can render your machine of fury out of service. There's something monty pyton about the whole thing.

Then again would hate the lads to go through all that for nothing. If anyone can get these fellas numbers or emails tell them to me meet me at Kildare Street, Dublin 5pm sharp on Friday. Inform them I'll pay their ferry fair, and wages and the mission itself will be explained at the agreed meeting time..

GCU Flexible Demeanour

It would remind you a little of this mean mother, which (believe it or not) Irish troops would have brought out to the Congo in the 1960s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaC_zbearUE

dttq

GCU Flexible Demeanour wrote: »

It would remind you a little of this mean mother, which (believe it or not) Irish troops would have brought out to the Congo in the 1960s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaC_zbearUE

The Germans wouldn't have stood a chance had they stupidly tried to invade us back then.

Pottler

dttq wrote: »

The Germans wouldn't have stood a chance had they stupidly try to invade us back then.

That was the 1960s - the Congo. WW2 was the late 30's and even then that yoke was laughable. I love the drivers head poking out, a sharp stick could do him in, let alone a firearm. You sure that's not a clip from Dr Who? was there a trumpet linked to a phonogram playing "exterminate Exterminate"

Johro

A similar attempt, from Libya's uprising. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e47_1304608395
Look at the hardware on some of these Libyan pickup trucks http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=libyan+rebel+pickup+trucks&FORM=HDRSC2

Pottler

Johro wrote: »

A similar attempt, from Libya's uprising. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e47_1304608395
Look at the hardware on some of these Libyan pickup trucks http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=libyan+rebel+pickup+trucks&FORM=HDRSC2

Lucky they found all those heavy machine guns lying around, wasn't it. Surely some foreign power didn't airlift in thousands of them to encourage the revolt. I bet they've no interest in Libyas oil either. Surely. Any oil in Syria?:pac: Destabilise, de-centralise and drill like fcuk. Way to go it seems.. No-one was too ar5ed about wether they had democracy or not until the price of crude shot up. I suppose priorities do change... Gadaffi must have been one of the only people who checked "Pumpwatch" to see how long he had left to live. Well, apart from Saddam and Armoureddinnerjacket.

Merch

Pottler wrote: »

Lucky they found all those heavy machine guns lying around, wasn't it. Surely some foreign power didn't airlift in thousands of them to encourage the revolt. I bet they've no interest in Libyas oil either. Surely. Any oil in Syria?:pac: Destabilise, de-centralise and drill like fcuk. Way to go it seems.. No-one was too ar5ed about wether they had democracy or not until the price of crude shot up. I suppose priorities do change... Gadaffi must have been one of the only people who checked "Pumpwatch" to see how long he had left to live. Well, apart from Saddam and Armoureddinnerjacket.

Not saying it was sourced local, but a lot of that stuff is soviet era stuff, maybe came from local armories? aircraft/AA weapons, especially the heli/aviation rocket launchers, looks lethal, to the operator, besides a few recoiless rifles and a couple of MG's mostly soviet era stuff.

Yes there is oil in Syria, how do I know? apart from the fighting? they are trying to say Assad is a dangerous murdering bstad, must be oil. Next it will be Venezuela, oh they tried that one already.