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Attaching TV bracket to 50mm plasterboard

  • 05-12-2012 12:50pm
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    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 16,724 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Lads
    Have the 12mm plasterboard backed with 38mm insulation, whats the best way to attach a tv bracket for a 40" tv to that?

    Cheers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,163 ✭✭✭homer911


    Is this an internal or external wall?

    I'd be nervous of hanging this on an internal wall

    If an external wall, get down to your nearest DIY shop and buy yourself some 120mm bolts and a good masonry drill bit...

    It isnt worth risking your expensive investment falling off the wall..


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 16,724 Mod ✭✭✭✭yop


    homer911 wrote: »
    Is this an internal or external wall?

    I'd be nervous of hanging this on an internal wall

    If an external wall, get down to your nearest DIY shop and buy yourself some 120mm bolts and a good masonry drill bit...

    It isnt worth risking your expensive investment falling off the wall..

    External wall. Blocks outside :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,857 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    yop wrote: »
    External wall. Blocks outside :)


    100-120mm frame fixers or else some 100mm self drive concrete screws an an 8mm SDS drill bit.:)


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 16,724 Mod ✭✭✭✭yop


    paddy147 wrote: »
    100-120mm frame fixers or else some 100mm self drive concrete screws an an 8mm SDS drill bit.:)

    Cud do the trick. Keep me busy for a while during this budget speech!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,857 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    yop wrote: »
    Cud do the trick. Keep me busy for a while during this budget speech!


    Yep,0.18% property tax for allmost all of us here.:mad:

    Id love to slap the smirk off Howlins face right now.:mad::mad::mad:


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 16,724 Mod ✭✭✭✭yop


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Yep,0.18% property tax for allmost all of us here.:mad:

    Id love to slap the smirk off Howlins face right now.:mad::mad::mad:

    I'm on the higher rate the fker!


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,352 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    If you are a bit handy at the DIY you could do what I did and cut away the plasterboard 1 1/2" bigger than the tv all-round and recess it in fixing it straight to the block wall you would then have to plasterboard the sides,top and bottom or you could do it with a wooden trim it's a bit more work but looks good in the end, you should also be able to get your cables down between the blobs and bring them out at ground level :D

    20121205_181036.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭sanbrafyffe


    jas fergal your lucky with 2 tvs in your room:D

    fergal.b wrote: »
    If you are a bit handy at the DIY you could do what I did and cut away the plasterboard 1 1/2" bigger than the tv all-round and recess it in fixing it straight to the block wall you would then have to plasterboard the sides,top and bottom or you could do it with a wooden trim it's a bit more work but looks good in the end, you should also be able to get your cables down between the blobs and bring them out at ground level :D

    20121205_181036.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,843 ✭✭✭Arciphel


    fergal.b wrote: »
    If you are a bit handy at the DIY you could do what I did and cut away the plasterboard 1 1/2" bigger than the tv all-round and recess it in fixing it straight to the block wall you would then have to plasterboard the sides,top and bottom or you could do it with a wooden trim it's a bit more work but looks good in the end, you should also be able to get your cables down between the blobs and bring them out at ground level :D

    20121205_181036.jpg

    There's a tv that's not going to last too long


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,352 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    Lasted over 4 years so far thats a Dimplex plasma bellow not an open fire.:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭harry21


    Plus one for the conrete screw. Best invention ever.

    Fergal... I love your boats, but not what you did with the telly, although it does look like you did a nice job.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,857 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    fergal.b wrote: »
    If you are a bit handy at the DIY you could do what I did and cut away the plasterboard 1 1/2" bigger than the tv all-round and recess it in fixing it straight to the block wall you would then have to plasterboard the sides,top and bottom or you could do it with a wooden trim it's a bit more work but looks good in the end, you should also be able to get your cables down between the blobs and bring them out at ground level :D

    20121205_181036.jpg


    The OP has 50mm insulated slab on the block wall,,cutting it out to make a recessed area for a TV just creates one big cold spot on the wall.;)


    Not a good idea at all.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,352 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    My chimney is on an internal wall and in quite a small room, the heat of the 50" is good enough that I never have to turn on the radiator if fact I can't even close the door in the room or I'll melt :D:D it works for me but I know where you guys are coming from :)
    Another option might be chemical fasteners, these would also help with the 50mm of bolt that has very little support from the plasterboard by spreading out the load a bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,447 ✭✭✭Audioslaven


    fergal.b wrote: »
    My chimney is on an internal wall and in quite a small room, the heat of the 50" is good enough that I never have to turn on the radiator if fact I can't even close the door in the room or I'll melt :D:D it works for me but I know where you guys are coming from :)
    Another option might be chemical fasteners, these would also help with the 50mm of bolt that has very little support from the plasterboard by spreading out the load a bit.

    I have 100mm boards and I used the screws another guys said above. Just put a good few in and it will be grand to support the tv.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 368 ✭✭Morph the Cat


    fergal.b wrote: »

    20121205_181036.jpg

    That looks terrible, TBH. Cut a big hole in your wall to hang a TV? A bracket would actually have worked (and looked) better IMO + easier access to the cables. What if you want to change TV? And if you're going to bother to try and recess it, at least make it flush. Plus you can see the edges of the plasterboard - too big a gap. Should put a bit of trim around it to make the edges look tidier. There shouldn't be more than a 1mm gap between the plastebopard + TV so it looks snug, but you have a couple of cm.

    Just my opinion... looks a mess...


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,352 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    The TV is on a bracket that I can move in and out and tilt so no problem getting at the cables, a 1mm gap would not allow for the ventilation that the TV needs and the resin I recessed it was to allow the projector screen to come down over it. Fair play to you if you can see the edge of the plaster board as I put angle bead all around the cutout.

    Just my opinion, I love the way it looks and with the surround sound on the way it sounds :D





    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,488 ✭✭✭SweetCaliber


    That looks terrible, TBH. Cut a big hole in your wall to hang a TV? A bracket would actually have worked (and looked) better IMO + easier access to the cables. What if you want to change TV? And if you're going to bother to try and recess it, at least make it flush. Plus you can see the edges of the plasterboard - too big a gap. Should put a bit of trim around it to make the edges look tidier. There shouldn't be more than a 1mm gap between the plastebopard + TV so it looks snug, but you have a couple of cm.

    Just my opinion... looks a mess...

    I think it looks rather sexy. It blends with the electric fire below.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 368 ✭✭Morph the Cat


    Just my opinion, lads.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,352 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    How about now :D I had to tell the kids that Santa can now travel down HDMI cables so it's ok to block up the chimney;)

    20121210_091029.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭shooter69


    fergal.b wrote: »
    How about now :D I had to tell the kids that Santa can now travel down HDMI cables so it's ok to block up the chimney;)

    20121210_091029.jpg
    Dude make sure you put some sort of shelf between fire and bottom of tv , it needs something to deflect heat from fire away from underneath of tv . Just put ours in and installer says he always advises people to put in something (for gas or solid fuel fire) as any heat will eventually buggar up the tv . We have a 4" deep one in and it looks pretty snazzy :-)


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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,352 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    I don't use the heated panels on the fire it's just for effect, you get warm just looking at it :D or if I want to cool down.

    20121210_103308.jpg


  • Posts: 7,497 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    TV over fireplace
    classy


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,857 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    would those santa socks not be in danger of catching fire on that electric fire????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,488 ✭✭✭SweetCaliber


    paddy147 wrote: »
    would those santa socks not be in danger of catching fire on that electric fire????

    That made me LOL :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,857 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    As far as I know, its against fire and building regulations to have a skirting board under a fire (danger and possible source of ignition/fire.

    You should idealy take out the wooden skirting and install a granite or marble plinth instead


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,857 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Just read that its an electric fire for show only and no heat from it.


    Sorry for asking this...but whats the point of it then,if you dont get any heat from it??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,488 ✭✭✭SweetCaliber


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Just read that its an electric fire for show only and no heat from it.


    Sorry for asking this...but whats the point of it then,if you dont get any heat from it??

    I suppose he has it just for show, it does look really nice and has just gave me an idea for my room.

    Central heating etc.. could heat up the room otherwise.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,352 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Just read that its an electric fire for show only and no heat from it.


    Sorry for asking this...but whats the point of it then,if you dont get any heat from it??

    There are ceramic tiles each side of the fire that radiate heat if you want it. The fire is a repetitive sound and image and you can pick from a selection of others like the fish tank, waves crashing on the beach,river running and so on.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,857 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    fergal.b wrote: »
    There are ceramic tiles each side of the fire that radiate heat if you want it. The fire is a repetitive sound and image and you can pick from a selection of others like the fish tank, waves crashing on the beach,river running and so on.


    Ah right,so you can have the heated panels on or off...what ever floats your boat (excuse the pun).;):D


    Fair play to you so......does look nice.:)


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 368 ✭✭Morph the Cat


    fergal.b wrote: »
    The fire is a repetitive sound and image and you can pick from a selection of others like the fish tank, waves crashing on the beach,river running and so on.

    The same things a TV could also do? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭dp639


    The same things a TV could also do? :confused:

    Frame fixings are the right job and handiest. Also fanastic for use with curtain rails - especially in a house full of kids who like to swing on the curtains. Our curtains came down twice prior to the frame fixings and never since.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 368 ✭✭Morph the Cat


    dp639 wrote: »
    Frame fixings are the right job and handiest. Also fanastic for use with curtain rails - especially in a house full of kids who like to swing on the curtains. Our curtains came down twice prior to the frame fixings and never since.

    The fook are you talking about?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭dp639


    The fook are you talking about?

    Weirdly enough I was just answering the posters original question..........


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 368 ✭✭Morph the Cat


    dp639 wrote: »
    Weirdly enough I was just answering the posters original question..........

    Then why did you quote me?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    fergal.b wrote: »
    How about now :D I had to tell the kids that Santa can now travel down HDMI cables so it's ok to block up the chimney;)

    20121210_091029.jpg

    Looks good to me anyway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭Juwwi


    ................................................................................................................................^^^^^^^^

    That snowman is gona melt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    All the experts here, Jesus.

    This man built a boat FFS!

    I thinks it's fair to say he knows what he is doing in relation to fitting a TV on a wall. And FWIW, the early pics of the tv in place throw what is most likely a shadow, which makes the surrounding gap unsightly. I'm sure in the flesh it is a neat job.

    Personally ferg, I'd have cut out and recessed only the bracket, but heh, everyone to their own. :o


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 368 ✭✭Morph the Cat


    dodzy wrote: »
    This man built a boat FFS!
    Maybe he'll give you his autograph if you ask nicely.

    Firstly, building a boat doesn't automatically mean he knows what looks good. You essentially said that yourself, and I agree with you:
    Personally ferg, I'd have cut out and recessed only the bracket, but heh, everyone to their own. :o

    He cut a hole in his wall to fit a TV that has a shelf life of around 5 years. If he, as you said, just cut it to fit the bracket, then he could easily change the TV - but he has customised his wall for this exact make & model of TV, because every single one is different. Plus, it's not even flush with the wall.
    In addition, he has what's essentially a TV underneath it instead of a fireplace. So he has basically put a screen on top of another screen. And to the right of that he has his iMac screen. So he's sitting there staring at 3 screens. Hardly the best use of space IMO...


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,352 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    As I have said I recessed the TV to allow the projector screen to come down over it "screen number 4" :D
    I built the wall boarded and plastered it so have no problem customising to fit any TV.

    Quote
    "Firstly, building a boat doesn't automatically mean he knows what looks good."

    You could be right :D

    DSC01078.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Maybe he'll give you his autograph if you ask nicely.
    Whats wrong with a poster pointing out and possibly even admiring the boat building skills?
    Firstly, building a boat doesn't automatically mean he knows what looks good.
    No, but it would certainly indicate competency in a great range of DIY type tasks, such as the proper mechanical fixing of a tv bracket.

    What looks good to one person maybe different to another.
    He cut a hole in his wall to fit a TV that has a shelf life of around 5 years. If he, as you said, just cut it to fit the bracket, then he could easily change the TV - but he has customised his wall for this exact make & model of TV, because every single one is different. Plus, it's not even flush with the wall.
    In addition, he has what's essentially a TV underneath it instead of a fireplace. So he has basically put a screen on top of another screen. And to the right of that he has his iMac screen. So he's sitting there staring at 3 screens. Hardly the best use of space IMO...

    I have a feeling, customizing the wall for his next tv will be of little trouble, this man built a boat ffs...


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,857 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Jeez lads its Christmas Eve



    Wheres all the festive spirit and joy gone to???


    Everyone has their own styles and tastes,so lets not be bashing each other around and giving out about one another.


    Merry Christmas to all.:)




    PS-Fergal...thats a beautifull boat and some skill by you to build that from scratch.:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Jeez lads its Christmas Eve

    No ceasefire till midnight I thought:D


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,352 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    If I can just figure out how to fit a tv in the dash of the boat I'll be sorted :D
    At least I can still do a bit of work outside unlike two years ago.
    Happy Christmas guys :D "This post is starting to go way of topic"

    DSC00844.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    OK, I'm with the festive spirit thing and kindness to all men ;)

    Ah to hell with it !

    Ferg.....

    -You made a right bollix fitting the TV
    -You have it too high
    -You cut a hole wayyy too big
    -Its a Samsung, and a sh1tty one at that
    -Its too small
    -Its over a fire (I dont care if the fire works or not )
    -It is a plasma fire cum aquarium, so its useless
    -Your Imac is too close to the fire
    -Your Imas is too small
    -Your boat looks sh1t
    -I hate the interior
    -And I hate the varnished finish
    -The motor looks like something retro fitted from a Harley Davidson
    -Oh, yeah, and its full of snow.
    -You take crap pictures ( should have called Paddy147 )
    -You obviously have wayyy too much money and time on your hands

    Happy fcking Christmas :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,857 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    dodzy wrote: »
    OK, I'm with the festive spirit thing and kindness to all men ;)

    Ah to hell with it !

    Ferg.....

    -You made a right bollix fitting the TV
    -You have it too high
    -You cut a hole wayyy too big
    -Its a Samsung, and a sh1tty one at that
    -Its too small
    -Its over a fire (I dont care if the fire works or not )
    -It is a plasma fire cum aquarium, so its useless
    -Your Imac is too close to the fire
    -Your Imas is too small
    -Your boat looks sh1t
    -I hate the interior
    -And I hate the varnished finish
    -The motor looks like something retro fitted from a Harley Davidson
    -Oh, yeah, and its full of snow.
    -You take crap pictures ( should have called Paddy147 )
    -You obviously have wayyy too much money and time on your hands

    Happy fcking Christmas :D


    ROFL....:pac::D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    dodzy wrote: »
    OK, I'm with the festive spirit thing and kindness to all men ;)

    Ah to hell with it !

    Ferg.....

    -You made a right bollix fitting the TV
    -You have it too high
    -You cut a hole wayyy too big
    -Its a Samsung, and a sh1tty one at that
    -Its too small
    -Its over a fire (I dont care if the fire works or not )
    -It is a plasma fire cum aquarium, so its useless
    -Your Imac is too close to the fire
    -Your Imas is too small
    -Your boat looks sh1t
    -I hate the interior
    -And I hate the varnished finish
    -The motor looks like something retro fitted from a Harley Davidson
    -Oh, yeah, and its full of snow.
    -You take crap pictures ( should have called Paddy147 )
    -You obviously have wayyy too much money and time on your hands

    Happy fcking Christmas :D

    Ye forgot to ask for the autograph


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,857 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    robbie7730 wrote: »
    Ye forgot to ask for the autograph


    Ah shyte with bells on.......and to think that theres a 6 x 4 picture frame sitting on the side board just waiting for it.:D


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,352 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Ah shyte with bells on.......and to think that theres a 6 x 4 picture frame sitting on the side board just waiting for it.:D

    Just for you :D

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 368 ✭✭Morph the Cat


    That's one slick boat!!

    My point though, dodzy, was that just because you say "he built a boat FFS", doesn't make any of my points irrelevant. So why bring it up? The TV job should stand alone.

    If I'm a plumber, and I do an amateur job on a bathroom, do you think saying to the client "yeah, but I did a deadly one last week" should make any difference to their leaking toilet? Not that Fergal's TV mount is 'amateur', but IMO it has it's flaws which I'm entitled to point out and discuss without being dismissed, just because he did something else excellent.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,857 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    That's one slick boat!!

    My point though, dodzy, was that just because you say "he built a boat FFS", doesn't make any of my points irrelevant. So why bring it up? The TV job should stand alone.

    If I'm a plumber, and I do an amateur job on a bathroom, do you think saying to the client "yeah, but I did a deadly one last week" should make any difference to their leaking toilet? Not that Fergal's TV mount is 'amateur', but IMO it has it's flaws which I'm entitled to point out and discuss without being dismissed, just because he did something else excellent.


    You're a plumber????:eek::pac::D


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