Creation Watches & Customs

jh79

Hi Guys,

How likely am I to be caught by customs if I use the FedEx delivery option?

Also whats the likely delivery time with the standard post?

Thanks

paddyh117

I've only bought from them once - but delivery was super-fast, couple of days, and there was no customs charge so i reckon go for it - you'll be grand!

iggy

I got my Orange Monster last week from Creation using FedEx.
Just received a bill for €24.50 from FedEx today.
I think if u choose the slower mail u have a better chance of not having to pay
Charges.
I think FedEx automatically pay the charges on your behalf and then pass on the bill to you.

CarltonBrowne

The Fedex thing with Creationwatches confuses me; my last purchase from Creation came via Fedex but there was no customs bill to follow (obviously my dispatch was to the UK) and I know a few others who have had this experience. I understand that at some point the EU shipments were landing elsewhere (France?) and going through customs there which might indicate why they don't appear on the Irish Revenue radar. Iggy's experience is the most recent so probably the most relevant or maybe he was just unlucky.

jh79

Would I get it before xmas with the slower mail?

Ryath

Ordered a watch yesterday selecting the snail mail and still got an email with a tracking number from Fedex saying watch was dispatched priority. Am buying expecting to pay customs but was hoping to avoid the fedex admin charges. Don't think An Post charge as much for the privilege of collecting the tax.

jh79

How much are the FedEx admin charges?

Ryath

jh79 wrote: »

How much are the FedEx admin charges?

Not sure remember reading some where it was a few euro over 5 any way maybe a bit more. Surprised Iggys bill is so low. Dutycalculator.com gives me a tax of €34.96 on a $199 dollar watch.

iggy

Ryath wrote: »

Ordered a watch yesterday selecting the snail mail and still got an email with a tracking number from Fedex saying watch was dispatched priority. Am buying expecting to pay customs but was hoping to avoid the fedex admin charges. Don't think An Post charge as much for the privilege of collecting the tax.

Yea that's what happened me. I selected snail mail and got FedEx tracking .
Just as well Creation mark the value down on the package otherwise the charges would be very high.
So for a watch that cost €160 I ended up paying €24.50 charges.

Ryath

iggy wrote: »

Yea that's what happened me. I selected snail mail and got FedEx tracking .
Just as well Creation mark the value down on the package otherwise the charges would be very high.
So for a watch that cost €160 I ended up paying €24.50 charges.

What value did they mark it at?

iggy

Ryath wrote: »

Not sure remember reading some where it was a few euro over 5 any way maybe a bit more. Surprised Iggys bill is so low. Dutycalculator.com gives me a tax of €34.96 on a $199 dollar watch.

Creation marked the value of package as $65 and marked it as ' measuring instrument '

Andrew76

I just ordered from them the other week, took a couple of days before it actually shipped because they didn't understand the Irish no-postcode address. Just replied saying yes I have no postcode and it went fine. I seem to remember Fedex being selected automatically but haven't been charged anything so far, fingers crossed.

Shipped Nov 28th and got here Dec 3rd, pretty good considering all the locations it went through: SINGAPORE SG --> GUANGZHOU CN --> KOELN DE --> PARIS FR --> STANSTED GB --> DUBLIN IE.

Ryath

iggy wrote: »

Creation marked the value of package as $65 and marked it as ' measuring instrument '

So €11.42 VAT on that value leaves €13.08 admin charge from Fedex thats taking the piss. Am ok paying the tax but the admin charge is creaming it. Hope my package is marked that low or I'll paying nearly €50. From my reading Fedex always collect the tax other couriers and postal are more hit and miss.

Maybe include a note on the order in the comments jh79 to insure it's dispatched regular post you should still have it for christmas.

iggy

Ryath wrote: »

So €11.42 VAT on that value leaves €13.08 admin charge from Fedex thats taking the piss. Am ok paying the tax but the admin charge is creaming it. Hope my package is marked that low or I'll paying nearly €50. From my reading Fedex always collect the tax other couriers and postal are more hit and miss.

Maybe include a note on the order in the comments jh79 to insure it's dispatched regular post you should still have it for christmas.

Yea those figures are close enough.
I will get the exact breakdown of charges later when I'm home.
In the last few weeks I've got 2 watches from Hong Kong using snail mail and didn't have to pay any charges.
Basically I think if Creation ship your watch via FedEx you will have to pay charges.
Maybe i will email them and ask why when I chose snail mail , and they used FedEx

jh79

How long did it take for the watches to arrive from hong kong?

iggy

jh79 wrote: »

How long did it take for the watches to arrive from hong kong?

One took 10 days and the other took 2 weeks.

Mitch Buchannon

I also ordered a watch from Creation Watches yesterday. I received an email this morning saying the item has been shipped. I have an order number but no tracking number.

I'll update this thread once I have more info.

CarltonBrowne

Ryath wrote: »

From my reading Fedex always collect the tax other couriers and postal are more hit and miss.

Having ordered bicycle parts from the US I know that UPS also seem to do the Revenue's work for them pretty much automatically.

One other thought about Creation is that they may dispatch from different places and this may also reflect on dispatch method and likely customs charges. I have definitely read that they ship their Japan Domestic Market Seikos from Japan and that these are almost guaranteed to incur charges. I wonder whether there is a difference if they send from Singapore or Hong Kong?

iggy

CarltonBrowne wrote: »

Having ordered bicycle parts from the US I know that UPS also seem to do the Revenue's work for them pretty much automatically.

One other thought about Creation is that they may dispatch from different places and this may also reflect on dispatch method and likely customs charges. I have definitely read that they ship their Japan Domestic Market Seikos from Japan and that these are almost guaranteed to incur charges. I wonder whether there is a difference if they send from Singapore or Hong Kong?

Mine was shipped from Singapore
Here's the journey it went


Shipment Travel History
Nov 22, 2012 12:39 PM
Delivered
Location
CO DUBLIN IE
Nov 22, 2012 8:37 AM
On FedEx vehicle for delivery
Location
DUBLIN IE
Nov 22, 2012 8:32 AM
International shipment release - Import
Location
DUBLIN IE
Nov 22, 2012 8:32 AM
At local FedEx facility
Location
DUBLIN IE
Nov 22, 2012 6:02 AM
At destination sort facility
Location
DUBLIN IE
Nov 22, 2012 5:06 AM
In transit
Location
STANSTED GB
Nov 22, 2012 4:02 AM
Departed FedEx location
Location
PARIS FR
Nov 22, 2012 3:36 AM
In transit
Location
PARIS FR
Nov 21, 2012 10:14 PM
Departed FedEx location
Location
PARIS FR
Nov 21, 2012 5:41 PM
Arrived at FedEx location
Location
PARIS FR
Nov 21, 2012 5:41 PM
In transit
Location
PARIS FR
Nov 21, 2012 1:20 PM
Arrived at FedEx location
Location
PARIS FR
Nov 21, 2012 12:44 PM
In transit
Location
KOELN DE
Nov 21, 2012 12:16 PM
Departed FedEx location
Location
KOELN DE
Nov 21, 2012 10:07 AM
Arrived at FedEx location
Location
KOELN DE
Nov 21, 2012 5:19 AM
Departed FedEx location
Location
GUANGZHOU CN
Nov 21, 2012 1:38 AM
Arrived at FedEx location
Location
GUANGZHOU CN
Nov 20, 2012 10:06 PM
In transit
Location
SINGAPORE SG
Nov 20, 2012 9:38 PM
In transit
Location
SINGAPORE SG
Nov 20, 2012 9:38 PM
In transit
Location
SINGAPORE SG
Nov 20, 2012 2:59 PM
Left FedEx origin facility
Location
SINGAPORE SG
Nov 20, 2012 11:44 AM
Picked up
Location
SINGAPORE SG
Nov 16, 2012 10:55 PM
Shipment information sent to FedEx

Lex Luthor

any time I got stuff shipped from the US with fedex they always have held up the shipment until the customs has been cleared, usually by them giving me a phone call or by post

jh79

off topic, but I was looking at the seiko 5's on creation but then saw this on amazon

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000SA8UWC/ref=s9_simh_gw_p241_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0EBJH59M475CSZ9BXPE5&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=317828027&pf_rd_i=468294

is this a good price for a japan made seiko 5 sports?

Ryath

jh79 wrote: »

off topic, but I was looking at the seiko 5's on creation but then saw this on amazon

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000SA8UWC/ref=s9_simh_gw_p241_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0EBJH59M475CSZ9BXPE5&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=317828027&pf_rd_i=468294

is this a good price for a japan made seiko 5 sports?

If you like it it doesn't seem like bad value about €135. The seiko sngz15j1 I'm interested in is £110 + 10.90 delivery from amazon about €149.
http://www.creationwatches.com/products/seiko-automatic-sports-89/seiko-automatic-sports-snzg15j1-snzg15j-snzg15-mens-watch-2222.html

From creation its €99 But with VAT and fedex charges would be about €135. Still mulling it over if I order from creation again I'll be adding a note to make sure it is sent registered post not by fedex.

tommyombomb

lads thinking of order the watch below from creation. how much customs should i be expecting and if order tomorrow will i get it before christmas. also what % of chance is there i will get away with it

http://www.creationwatches.com/products/seiko-velatura-79/seiko-velatura-kinetic-direct-drive-srh005p1-srh005p-srh005-1280.html

93Cab

I've got 3 watches, and I've had to pay Fedex €25 on two (Monsters ) The other watch also a Seiko but a bit more expensive I had to pay €10!

Ryath

tommyombomb wrote: »

lads thinking of order the watch below from creation. how much customs should i be expecting and if order tomorrow will i get it before christmas. also what % of chance is there i will get away with it

http://www.creationwatches.com/products/seiko-velatura-79/seiko-velatura-kinetic-direct-drive-srh005p1-srh005p-srh005-1280.html

Based on full price €111.50 VAT + €10.50 fedex admin fee. Iggy said his package was marked in value to €65 from €199 so he didn't pay full amount so if yours is too you'll pay a lot less. Bear in mind if customs are not happy with declared amount they may look for evidence from what you really payed. If the watch was sent by post there is less chance of it being picked up for customs but I reckon it's getting tight to get by christmas.

Andrew76

Andrew76 wrote: »

I just ordered from them the other week, took a couple of days before it actually shipped because they didn't understand the Irish no-postcode address. Just replied saying yes I have no postcode and it went fine. I seem to remember Fedex being selected automatically but haven't been charged anything so far, fingers crossed.

Shipped Nov 28th and got here Dec 3rd, pretty good considering all the locations it went through: SINGAPORE SG --> GUANGZHOU CN --> KOELN DE --> PARIS FR --> STANSTED GB --> DUBLIN IE.

I spoke too soon. Got an invoice in the door from Fedex this morning, €9.70.

HDMI

Andrew76 wrote: »

I spoke too soon. Got an invoice in the door from Fedex this morning, €9.70.

Only €9.70? normally FedEx charge €10 as a handling fee + customs fees on top.

Andrew76

HDMI wrote: »

Only €9.70? normally FedEx charge €10 as a handling fee + customs fees on top.

Aye, maybe I got lucky. No price on the box it came in and watch was only €80 I think.

Ryath

Update on this watch came on the 11th and invoice from fedex this morning €24.52 total €10.50 fedex admin fee with €2.42 vat paid on this.

ThebitterLemon

Ryath,

I'm trying to use that duty calculator to find out how much tax I might have to pay on a Seiko I bought from creation watches value $235.

I entered the value and then"0" for shipping and insurance, when I hit the calculate button it says hat no duty is payable.

Am wondering am I using it right.

Tnx,

TbL

Ryath

ThebitterLemon wrote: »

Ryath,

I'm trying to use that duty calculator to find out how much tax I might have to pay on a Seiko I bought from creation watches value $235.

I entered the value and then"0" for shipping and insurance, when I hit the calculate button it says hat no duty is payable.

Am wondering am I using it right.

Tnx,

TbL

Seems to be something up with the site it's not working for me either. VAT at 23% is all that is due so about €41 + €13 fedex admin charge. That's based on the full price though, creation seem to put a lower price on the invoice so you will likely pay a good bit less. Could try adding a request to the order to ensure its is sent by regular post I don't know the An Post charges but they surely don't milk it like fedex. Possibly worth paying the extra for the security of it being couriered though.

ThebitterLemon

Thanks Ryath,

That a big percentage whack to add on to the cost of the watch, but at least it's still considerably cheaper than buying the equivalent watch in Ireland.

I let ye know when it arrives.

Tnx,

TbL

ThebitterLemon

Got an e mail confirming that the watch was delivered.

Haven't seen it yet as I had it delivered to work.

I put the company name on the address for my attention and it doesn't look I was hit for any additional vat/tax.

I'll confirm when I pick it up tomorrow or Monday.

iggy

ThebitterLemon wrote: »

Got an e mail confirming that the watch was delivered.

Haven't seen it yet as I had it delivered to work.

I put the company name on the address for my attention and it doesn't look I was hit for any additional vat/tax.

I'll confirm when I pick it up tomorrow or Monday.

You won't get the FedEx bill for about a week after.
That's if it's gone through FedEx ?
Creation will lower the price so for a $200 , expect to pay
About €25. That's if they have lowered the value to about
$65.

ThebitterLemon

iggy wrote: »

You won't get the FedEx bill for about a week after.
That's if it's gone through FedEx ?
Creation will lower the price so for a $200 , expect to pay
About €25. That's if they have lowered the value to about
$65.

Yes Iggy it went through FedEx.

Thanks

TbL

ThebitterLemon

Still no sign of an additional bill from FedEx, got a Seiko solar at great value if the bill doesn't arrive

Lex Luthor

usually fedex dont release anything until the duty is paid...now that you have the goods its possible you might get away with the bill...fingers crossed

ThebitterLemon

Lex Luthor wrote: »

usually fedex dont release anything until the duty is paid...now that you have the goods its possible you might get away with the bill...fingers crossed

Cheers Lex,

The Irish and UK high street price for this watch was crazy, if I don't get any duty bill I reckon I've saved €100

TbL

macadam

Seems that customs etc have copped on to this and are pulling everything, here is details of one watch I purchased on the 7/1/15 from Creation watches using Express Priority shipping 2-4 days !!!!
I also purchased one from jomashop on the same day and its in the same boat hasnt arrived yet.
Monday, January 12, 2015 Location Time Piece
14 Processed for clearance at DUBLIN - IRELAND, REPUBLIC OF DUBLIN - IRELAND, REPUBLIC OF 05:04
1 Piece

13 Clearance event DUBLIN - IRELAND, REPUBLIC OF 05:04
1 Piece

12 Arrived at Delivery Facility in DUBLIN - IRELAND, REPUBLIC OF DUBLIN - IRELAND, REPUBLIC OF 05:00
1 Piece
11 Arrived at Sort Facility DUBLIN - IRELAND, REPUBLIC OF DUBLIN - IRELAND, REPUBLIC OF 04:02
1 Piece
Saturday, January 10, 2015 Location Time Piece
10 Customs status updated DUBLIN - IRELAND, REPUBLIC OF 09:15
9 Departed Facility in EAST MIDLANDS - UK EAST MIDLANDS - UK 06:17
1 Piece
8 Transferred through EAST MIDLANDS - UK EAST MIDLANDS - UK 06:16
1 Piece
7 Departed Facility in LEIPZIG - GERMANY LEIPZIG - GERMANY 03:02
1 Piece
Friday, January 09, 2015 Location Time Piece
6 Processed at LEIPZIG - GERMANY LEIPZIG - GERMANY 23:09
1 Piece
5 Arrived at Sort Facility LEIPZIG - GERMANY LEIPZIG - GERMANY 21:59
1 Piece
4 Departed Facility in SINGAPORE - SINGAPORE SINGAPORE - SINGAPORE 07:39
1 Piece
3 Processed at SINGAPORE - SINGAPORE SINGAPORE - SINGAPORE 06:25
1 Piece
Thursday, January 08, 2015 Location Time Piece
2 Arrived at Sort Facility SINGAPORE - SINGAPORE SINGAPORE - SINGAPORE 21:14
1 Piece
1 Shipment picked up SINGAPORE - SINGAPORE 17:59
1 Piece

macadam

Ive been in touch with Dhl and they are waiting proof of purchase, I havent received an invoice from CW so it will be at least 3 more days before I get my order.!!!!

blindsider

macadam wrote: »

Ive been in touch with Dhl and they are waiting proof of purchase, I havent received an invoice from CW so it will be at least 3 more days before I get my order.!!!!

Did you not get an online confirmation or similar?

macadam

blindsider wrote: »

Did you not get an online confirmation or similar?

Yes I got an Order Confirmation but its vague to say the least, Ive also emailed them 4 ties and never got an acknowledgement I wont be using them again.

Order Confirmation from CreationWatches.Com

C

Thanks for shopping with us today!
The following are the details of your order.

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Order Number: 1

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8
Date Ordered: Wednesday 06 January, 2015

Products

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Order for: 1 x SK

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Shipping method: FedEx/UPS Express Shipping

Delivery Address

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Louth
Ireland

macadam

Both watches I purchased are stuck in customs, Creation watches are very difficult because of under declaring the item, this watch is now in Dublin since Saturday 10th, CW state that they have a 2-4 day delivery. Never again..

Jomashop also very difficult and poor delivery, watch stuck in Portlaoise awaiting clearance, purchased on 5/1/15 sitting in Portlaoise since last thrsday. Never ever again.

Am I just unlucky or is this run of the mill?

macadam

Jomashop delivery arrived €30.94 revenue tax and €7.00 handling from An Post.

Still waiting on the Creation watches delivery, could take another 3 days I'm told due to the item being under declared !!

macadam

macadam wrote: »

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Still waiting on the Creation watches delivery, could take another 3 days I'm told due to the item being under declared !!

Purchased two pieces from them in 2014, didn't have any issue but it did seem too good to be true. Was "afraid" for want of a better word to pull the trigger on a more expensive piece, no chance now it seems based on your experience.

macadam

Augeo wrote: »

Purchased two pieces from them in 2014, didn't have any issue but it did seem too good to be true. Was "afraid" for want of a better word to pull the trigger on a more expensive piece, no chance now it seems based on your experience.

The prices are great but customs seem to be pulling everything coming from the Asia, I have just got confirmation of delivery customs charges for this was €20.13 which worked out cheaper than the An Post rate, still worked out €100 cheaper than local stores, this was my first time dealing with them, I would just be careful if you were buying it as a gift.

80s Child

I'm just about to make a purchase with them; i'm assuming quality is ok foe the above posts and it's just customs etc that are the hassle?

I'm not belittling this, it's just that i can't get over their prices, so i thought something was up.

macadam

80s Child wrote: »

I'm just about to make a purchase with them; i'm assuming quality is ok foe the above posts and it's just customs etc that are the hassle?

I'm not belittling this, it's just that i can't get over their prices, so i thought something was up.

Cant fault the quality of what i got from Jomashop its just the delivery was 2-4 days it took 14 days with customs and the communication with Jomashop was very poor.
Im expecting Creation watches delivery tomorrow, purchased on the 5th of Jan, communication extremely poor, plus they under declared the watch and customs seem to coping onto this, still way cheaper than high street prices.

macadam

Still waiting on CW delivery, DHL seem to be a complete Joke

80s Child

To be honest, a few days of a delay wouldn't bother me too much if I knew that the quality was good as the prices are excellent!!

mad muffin

I bought a Seiko off them a couple of years ago. Quality was excellent. They sent it by FedEx so it was with me with in days and since FedEx pays customs and then bills you later means no delay.

I think the watch was €107 for the SNZG13 and €20 odd for customs. Still way cheaper.