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Request for YOUR feedback on Superthreads

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,973 ✭✭✭19543261


    raymann wrote: »
    theres almost a full front page of super threads that knock any new threads of the front very quickly before they get a chance to develop.

    why not have a separate board for the superthreads and then we get a normal board with loads of smaller topics for discussion emerging. if the mods thing they are unnecessary then they can just move them over and join them with the super threads.

    I feel this might stretch the discussion too thin.

    It could split the forum between the more regular posters/community and those who dont find they have the time - I dont think there are enough contributors here for that to work out; you'd have threads popping up of topics already run into the ground.

    I see sense in keeping the provincial superthreads, like everyone is saying, its when the traffic picks up that there's a problem. Each page cant facilitate what everyone wants to say, and when the page is full, the posts are effectively lost.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    If that's the main issue that stand's out, can we not call for more action from the mods under such circumstances by reporting posts that interupt the flow of the thread? Work is needed on the problem, instead of moving stuff elsewhere so it isn't seen.

    The problem is people are entitled to voice their opinions, and we can't moderate that. How do we draw a line in the sand, what constitutes as 'interrupting the flow'? I know exactly the type of post you mean, however if we moderate those posts we can receive a backlash from posters and we wouldn't have much ground to stand on when dealing with it.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,360 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    I think it works fairly well all ready to be honest.

    Is there any rule that stops a poster starting a thread on "Michael Bent for Ireland?" for example?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,356 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    .ak wrote: »
    The problem is people are entitled to voice their opinions, and we can't moderate that. How do we draw a line in the sand, what constitutes as 'interrupting the flow'? I know exactly the type of post you mean, however if we moderate those posts we can receive a backlash from posters and we wouldn't have much ground to stand on when dealing with it.

    I get that. It will always be difficult to moderate on perception and can be understandable when discussion get passionate/heated.

    My response was solely as a counterpoint to the other guy, not so much a call for more stringent moderation. It doesn't make sense for me to separate out, for the sake of avoiding discussion that can be troublesome and not worth reading through. If discussion goes down that path I just feel it's better for the forum that it'll dealt with, as opposed let stir and discussion moves on elsewhere to keep away from it.

    That's all the response was intended to put forward. It's the last thing any forum needs tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    I think it works fairly well all ready to be honest.

    Is there any rule that stops a poster starting a thread on "Michael Bent for Ireland?" for example?

    Oddly enough the super threads are community based, by that I mean we do not moderate anything, we don't move any threads back into super threads or visa versa. The situation is purely organic.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,406 ✭✭✭✭justsomebloke


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    Is there any rule that stops a poster starting a thread on "Michael Bent for Ireland?" for example?

    Truthfully if it is 'do people think Michael Bent's forum is good enough to warrant going straight into the squad?' then the Ireland thread is probably your best bet.

    If the question is a more rounder 'do people think we should be bringing in a player who only qualifies via the grand parent rule and putting him straight into the squad without any game time here?' then that should be put in a seperate thread. I think the questions Ciaran-Irl asked would also benefit from being in seperate threads
    Ciaran-irl wrote:
    You might want to follow a thread about the pros and cons of the 3 year residency rule, or you might be interested in the debate on youth over experience, or in a discussion about how the Irish team is afflicted by particular types of injuries etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭Gracelessly Tom


    Truthfully if it is 'do people think Michael Bent's forum is good enough to warrant going straight into the squad?' then the Ireland thread is probably your best bet.

    If the question is a more rounder 'do people think we should be bringing in a player who only qualifies via the grand parent rule and putting him straight into the squad without any game time here?' then that should be put in a seperate thread. I think the questions Ciaran-Irl asked would also benefit from being in seperate threads

    I see what you did there..... ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,320 ✭✭✭Teferi


    I think an Ireland subforum would be good. Easier to moderate the seagulls.

    No need for an International subforum as threads about other teams/games Ireland aren't involved in tend to have the more moderate and knowledgeable posters in them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭danthefan


    The last thing the board needs is harsher moderation imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,781 ✭✭✭eyeball kid


    Like a lot of other posters here, I also like the Provincial Superthreads. Pretty easy to read and generally very informative.

    The same however can't be said about the Ireland superthread at the moment. There's pages and pages of bickering and arguments. Most of it isn't fun or interesting to read. Any decent points seem to get lost in the noise.

    An Ireland subforum could be an answer. I think it would be interesting to trial it and see how it goes during the 6 nations. Outside of International windows I'd imagine it would be pretty quiet though.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,989 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I don't mind the superthreads, but I imagine that's because I'm a fairly heavy user and can keep track of them. The odd time I'm not on for a couple days I do have a habit of skipping a lot of pages in them - I'm just not going to wade through 20 pages of variable content. They're a good resource for regular, heavy users but offputting and slightly unhelpful for occasional users I think.

    Not really sure what the ideal solution is. I think the provincial subthreads work fine. The Ireland thread is a mess and the AI superthread is too generic - there is 5 different conversations going on at once in it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,636 ✭✭✭✭Tox56


    You could have an international sub-forum where there are superthreads for countries like France, England, Wales etc. and all the other threads Ireland related

    EDIT: Just realised that's already been suggested..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭Gracelessly Tom


    I'd lean toward an Ireland sub forum as opposed to an international sub forum.

    I love the provincial superthreads, very easy to follow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,037 ✭✭✭conf101


    How about an Ireland & International Rugby sub forum and a Club/Provincial one.

    Someone mentioned the Lions Superthread earlier. I think, come next Summer, that has the potential to be as bad as the Ireland thread. If all Lions chat was in the International forum it could solve that problem.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,519 ✭✭✭Higher


    Don't bother with a sub-forum, its not THAT busy.

    Just stop merging everything into the Ireland super thread. That's the only complaint I have. I reckon comments on Declan Kidney, comments on team selections and match analysis should be in separate threads. Could we not just keep the Ireland superthread to discussion on things like injuries, call ups, upcoming fixtures, seedings etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭PhatPiggins


    Is the 'Request for YOUR feedback on Superthreads' thread becoming a superthread ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    Request for feedback on superthreads not moderation. Start a thread in feedback if you wish to discuss moderation


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