USI president arrested

Local-womanizer

USI president John Louge was arrested this evening in the Dail for standing up and turning his back on the TDs.

There was an arranged address so TDs could talk directly to students in the public gallery about the Fees fiasco.

It's on Twitter if you follow USI, a picture of John Louge being hand cuffed by the Gardai.

http://twitter.com/search?q=#usi&src=typd

Mickey H

Local-womanizer wrote: »

USI president John Louge was arrested this evening in the Dail for standing up and turning his back on the TDs.

There was an arranged address so TDs could talk directly to students in the public gallery about the Fees fiasco.

It's on Twitter if you follow USI, a picture of John Louge being hand cuffed by the Gardai.

His own fault really...

irishgeo

arrested for what?

when did TDs become above the rest of us, last time i checked they were people too.

Napper Hawkins

What?

Local-womanizer

irishgeo wrote: »

arrested for what?

when did TDs become above the rest of us, last time i checked they were people too.

For standing up in the public gallery and turning his back.

He wasn't happen about an address from a TD I think about the fee fiasco.

Hippies!

Local-womanizer wrote: »

It's on Twitter if you follow...

Napper Hawkins

Local-womanizer wrote: »

For standing up in the public gallery and turning his back.

He wasn't happen about an address from a TD I think about the fee fiasco.

Link? Anything?

krudler

Local-womanizer wrote: »

For standing up in the public gallery and turning his back.

He wasn't happen about an address from a TD I think about the fee fiasco.

thats an arrestable offence? sweet jesus

Local-womanizer

Iam on a phone so can't link to twitter properly! Hopefully the link above works if you copy and paste it right.

Dave!

Local-womanizer wrote: »

For standing up in the public gallery and turning his back.

He wasn't happen about an address from a TD I think about the fee fiasco.

What was he charged with?

I'm sure he's rubbing his hands together at this, and thinking ahead to 2030 when he's a Minister and he sees himself on Reeling In the Years...

Non-story. Bad timing for him unfortunately - there's real news today.

EoghanIRL

Didn't realise you d be arrested for this

billybudd

Pretty stupid way to make a point. whatever about being arrested and the rights and wrongs of that it comes across as stupid and childish to attend a debate and then turn your back on it.

irishgeo

surely you cant

Professey Chin

irishgeo wrote: »

surely you cant

Apparently you can

And dont call me Shirley


had to be done

Micky Dolenz

Did he throw his shoes or wha?

wnolan1992

Ah lads, this was clearly all a misunderstanding!

He was getting up to bend over for Ruairi Quinn, isn't that what the TD's wanted ?

admiralofthefleet

what if you were to stand up to go for a piss during an address by the leader of the house?
i have done that in the public gallery before and was not arrested

pm1977x

Maybe he's half Greek and was simply reacting to news of Greece's goal via the medium of 'The Poznan'

kerry4sam

image from twitter:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7sTFo6CYAEYwPm.jpg

I still don't know the full story here.

eiresandra

Despite the handy campaign line about being arrested for "turning his back", Dublin journalists reporting on Twitter that there was screaming and jeering during Dail speeches and a refusal to leave. Usual unhelpful USI histrionics.

GRMA

Fianna Fáil gobsh!te in publicity stunt. Useless wanker just like the last USI president. He himself has a different position on fees tan the USI, just another power hungry **** like the last one hoping to parlay this gig into a political career.

Halfway to the gravy train!

GRMA

No way in hell it was for standing,been in there many many times myself and I always stand - many times having a quiet chat with the Garda - comparing the music we have on our ipods

MagicSean

Yes I'm sure he got arrested for standing up and turning around. There is absolutley no chance of it being for anything else.:rolleyes:

danniemcq

I remember being on the student Union in Sligo and bertie was showing up for a picture or some publicity in the next week and students were asked to be there.

I had the idea for everyone to turn their backs and it was agreed with, so all student reps told their classes the plan and it went without a hitch.

2 lines of students the whole way into the college slowly turning their back on him in complete silence. Even when he got inside there was complete silence.

It was by far the highlight of my college term!

M cebee

maybe he was sectioned
not arrested

Local-womanizer

MagicSean wrote: »

Yes I'm sure he got arrested for standing up and turning around. There is absolutley no chance of it being for anything else.:rolleyes:

Dunno myself, just heard that in the public gallery if you do something to bring the Dail and its members it's an offence. Haven't a clue if its true.

The matter of fact is though that this is a direct result of the fees and its mishandling. If students feel aggravated about that then I will support them.

I have friends who will have to drop at as the financial burden is just too much. If they knew this would pan out the way it did, they would have just search for employment instead of starting college.

A day that the priorities if this country have been shown to be arse ways, from the absolute extreme to the complete farcical.

For all those bringing in the whole Fianna Fáil angle, Pearce Doherty has come out in support of the students on this matter.

eiresandra

eiresandra wrote: »

Despite the handy campaign line about being arrested for "turning his back", Dublin journalists reporting on Twitter that there was screaming and jeering during Dail speeches and a refusal to leave. Usual unhelpful USI histrionics.

How is that any different from what a lot of politicians do themselves?

Happyman42

A radical student in Ireland? Who'd have thought?;)

Senna

Local-womanizer wrote: »

For all those bringing in the whole Fianna Fáil angle, Pearce Doherty has come out in support of the students on this matter.

Support the students, not a jumped up little twat who obviously attempted to disrupt the dail, for which he was arrested.
Non story and done nothing to help the situation.

MadsL

Well, that escalated quickly!

Local-womanizer

Senna wrote: »

Support the students, not a jumped up little twat who obviously attempted to disrupt the dail, for which he was arrested.
Non story and done nothing to help the situation.

The head of the student representation in Ireland.

What's wrong with an elected rep standing up against those who decisions have directly resulted in the serious disruption of the educational standards of those who elected him?

The government have refused to take the concerns of the students on board. They issue a crappy apology and that's that. Last night the a Labour TD on Vincent Brown said that only one application was returned to the applicant, out of 66,000? They have only seen 3,000 applications at this stage, which is farcical.

I'd understand if he got up and urinated over the banister or punch a TD but this is silly.

Senna

I agreed, its disgraceful but the objective here should be to embarrass and maximise media attention, one loud mouth getting arrested does nothing. The first thing that jumps to my mind would be a peaceful protest, refuse to leave the gallery. Force them to handle a peaceful situation badly, rather than just make an arse out of yourself and hand them the opportunity to arrest.

phoenix999

Sure he's from Donegal. The new Rebel County don't ya know.

Local-womanizer

Senna wrote: »

I agreed, its disgraceful but the objective here should be to embarrass and maximise media attention, one loud mouth getting arrested does nothing. The first thing that jumps to my mind would be a peaceful protest, refuse to leave the gallery. Force them to handle a peaceful situation badly, rather than just make an arse out of yourself and hand them the opportunity to arrest.

The not leaving the gallery would have no effect though, as it would only come apparent after the TDs had left. In fairness they have been highlighting the issue in the media the last few weeks to no effect as well.

I would be totally against it if things had got violent but a bit of shouting is not violent, it garners attention and hopefully will bring the fees issue to the attention to a wider population tomorrow.

What should have been done was every student stood up and turn their back, but I'd still say the gardai would have still arrested Logue, being the president.

There would be giving out if nobody took a stand. I think it's good to see that there is people who feel strongly about issues today that they have protested.

NTMK

Senna wrote: »

I agreed, its disgraceful but the objective here should be to embarrass and maximise media attention

embrassing that shower of muppets would go unnoticed. They do that themselves on a daily basis at this stage which is depressing on so many levels

phoenix999

Protocol is big in Leinster House. Us serfs must know our position.

petersburg2002

Me thinks Leinster House is going to be under siege until Xmas. It's about time they earned those attendance allowances.

Son Of A Vidic

A pity he didn't squat over the edge of the balcony and shít onto the shít below.

Local-womanizer

Actually just read that all students did in fact stand up and turn around but Logue was asked to sit down, refused and arrested for breach of Dail rules.

He has been released since.

[Jackass]

It seems he was arrested for disobeying a direct order from a garda, nothing to do with Dail procedure per se.

Galwayguy35

I don't know what they would do if they lived in America where they would have to pay back all they money that was given to them as a loan when they started working.

It's time these people got real and realised the money isn't there anymore so if they want to stay in college then they will have to pay a bit more.

[Jackass]

Unfortunately, Ireland got used to the hand out society Bertie introduced during the bubble to buy votes.

Relative to other countries, we have it quite good here, especially when it comes to education. And I'm saying this as a mature student directly effected by everything they're protesting against.

We need to get real here. Yes, we will not be getting as much handouts as we used to, yes, you will have to pay more for services as subsidies can't be afforded any more, yes taxes will increase....

We're billions in debt and have to cut out a c. 14 billion blackhole in our budget...do people even realise the extent to which this country has been bankrupted by a decade of criminal mismanagement?

One thing I do agree with though is that the time frame by which grants are being processed is an absolute disgrace, and par for the course for one of the most expensive, over paid and over staffed public sector that they can't get anything done in a way that resembles anything like effeciency...

ballsymchugh

i was hoping for a gladiator vs emperor standoff myself.

i'm disappointed.

Local-womanizer

[Jackass] wrote: »

It seems he was arrested for disobeying a direct order from a garda, nothing to do with Dail procedure per se.

No, he was asked to sit down by Dail security, refused and was arrested.

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

I don't know what they would do if they lived in America where they would have to pay back all they money that was given to them as a loan when they started working.

It's time these people got real and realised the money isn't there anymore so if they want to stay in college then they will have to pay a bit more.

It's a moot point though. We don't live in America, we live in Ireland where the government provide the financial support for someone who is willing to educate themselves in a certain sector. If the government said "no grants, pay your own way" grand, but they don't. They way that have handle the grants and fees situation has been a disgrace, to say otherwise would be ludicrous.

Many people have moved to college and begun their courses, yet are still waiting for their grant, and in the meantime they have no way to pay their way. That to mean is extremely unfair.

Galwayguy35

Local-womanizer wrote: »

No, he was asked to sit down by Dail security, refused and was arrested.



It's a moot point though. We don't live in America, we live in Ireland where the government provide the financial support for someone who is willing to educate themselves in a certain sector. If the government said "no grants, pay your own way" grand, but they don't. They way that have handle the grants and fees situation has been a disgrace, to say otherwise would be ludicrous.

Many people have moved to college and begun their courses, yet are still waiting for their grant, and in the meantime they have no way to pay their way. That to mean is extremely unfair.

Of course the delay is unfair, but that's not the point I was making.

Chances are that some of the people in college today will possibly be members of Government in 20 or 30 years time so I would imagine at least some of them would have an idea of the mess the country is in and realise that the good times are over.

Lyaiera

An Irish Have I Got News For You odd one out round.

Gerry Adams, Nelson Mandela, This USI President, Bertie Ahern

They're all politicians except for the USI President who is only a wannabe politician.

Local-womanizer

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Of course the delay is unfair, but that's not the point I was making.

Chances are that some of the people in college today will possibly be members of Government in 20 or 30 years time so I would imagine at least some of them would have an idea of the mess the country is in and realise that the good times are over.

Yup, I know the country is in a mess and things have to be cut.

What I don't want to see is the government abandon all support for young people looking to get into 3rd level education, I think this would be a backward step and do the country more harm in the long run.

The grants I found were not even that substantial for when I was in college (4 years ago) and I was in a financial situation that was less than comfortable. I was lucky to find part time employment later on thankfully.

What I did find unfair was the grants mature students received, not to mention the book grant they get. The grant system is very skewed between a person of 22 years of age and a person of 23 years of age. If they balanced out the grant system it would be beneficial to all.

I find it strange in AH that every day people say that the Irish are happy enough to sit back and let the government walk all over them, then when someone actually makes a stand they are labelled as self serving tw@ts looking to further their own agenda and get a leg up into politics. Sometimes Ireland baffles me, it really does!

Lyaiera

Local-womanizer wrote: »

I find it strange in AH that every day people say that the Irish are happy enough to sit back and let the government walk all over them, then when someone actually makes a stand they are labelled as self serving tw@ts looking to further their own agenda and get a leg up into politics.

In fairness, the majority who rose to the top in the USI were self serving twats who wanted to get into politics. The few who weren't were usually in the rights based sections of the organisation, and I still see them to this day campaigning on rights based issues.

banquo

GRMA wrote: »

Fianna Fáil gobsh!te in publicity stunt. Useless wanker just like the last USI president. He himself has a different position on fees tan the USI, just another power hungry **** like the last one hoping to parlay this gig into a political career.

Halfway to the gravy train!

Clearly you have absolutely no idea what USI has done for young people in the last few years. They have done incredible amounts for awareness and stigma of mental health issues (not to mention fundraising), achieved substantial increases in assistance funds for the students that need it most, and changed some pretty key areas of irish education policy.

Our man in Havana

banquo wrote: »

Clearly you have absolutely no idea what USI has done for young people in the last few years. They have done incredible amounts for awareness and stigma of mental health issues (not to mention fundraising), achieved substantial increases in assistance funds for the students that need it most, and changed some pretty key areas of irish education policy.

Sweet fanny adams living off of capitation grants of students.

banquo

Our man in Havana wrote: »

Sweet fanny adams living off of capitation grants of students.

There is no such thing as a capitation grant. If you mean money that students pay for students unions to exist, almost 100% of that goes towards clubs and societies, hardship funds and scholarships.

But this troll is full I fear.