Is there an Irish Secret Service?

deblacker

"Blacker" is my nickname

oppenheimer1

Shryke wrote: »

Neutral? Dev went down to the German embassy to give his condolences when Hitler died. Useless and misguided would be the kindest words, looking at the big picture.

So you think Ireland was sympathetic to the Axis powers?

An interesting but flawed view of history you have there I think.

Capt'n Midnight

You don't think the government really spent all that money on evoting machines and decentralisation do you ? It was just done to create a slush fund for you know who.

FanadMan

franktheplank wrote: »

(and where do I join?)

Are you sure you're not a re-reg of http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/member.php?u=411697

franktheplank

FanadMan wrote: »

Are you sure you're not a re-reg of http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/member.php?u=411697

No, plank is my nickname.

Shryke

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

So you think Ireland was sympathetic to the Axis powers?

An interesting but flawed view of history you have there I think.

An interesting but flawed view of my post you have there.

Remmy

Snap, I actually asked this question before. The consensus was there was no such thing and I am a massive walter mitty who should lay off watching spooks for a while. correct on both counts.

...__...

G2 is not in any way a secret service nor can it do most of what some here who have posted thinks FFS its a military intelligence branch ofthe Irish Army.

As was correctly stated the GARDAI take up the role of the secret service and the division iscallled C3 or crime and security for its full title.
Based out of the Phoenix park the handle intelligence along with subversives and threats to the state backed up by the sdu and nsu.
They also give codenames for operations and handle informers and slush funds for said informers. they would have acollation service wthin that would know everything about you.
Believe it or not they are very very good at what they do.

tricky D

It's a fluffy catch all.

Not G2 (military int) or ARW, not Garda Intelligence, not Diplomatic Corps though they all might have roles as and when needed. Not run out of any of the Gov Depts which are responsible for the already mentioned. The rest is a sekrit.

Praetorian Saighdiuir

SPQRI wrote: »

They are called the Irish Rangers who actively train with other international anti terrorist units abroad such as the S.A.S.
Selection is through the PDF which isn't easy.

Nope

kasper

i was talking to a guy in the pub one night who is an irish secret agent his name is seamus bond

Victor

tricky D wrote: »

It's a fluffy catch all.

Not G2 (military int) or ARW, not Garda Intelligence, not Diplomatic Corps though they all might have roles as and when needed. Not run out of any of the Gov Depts which are responsible for the already mentioned. The rest is a sekrit.

You mean the Revenue Commissioners? :pac:

tricky D

RC are not a Gov Dept:p

/pedant

Victor

Exactly!

Sofiztikated

Pottler wrote: »

Due to cutbacks, they've had to eliminate the Service, and just keep the Secret. Mammie O'Rourke keeps it in her apron. They were officially known as the "Special Police Assignment Service", but someone eventually noticed what that spelt so they changed it double quick to the "General Investigative Intelligence and Technical Service".

So, SPAS and GIITS. Did someone mess up making their witty abbreviation?

SPQRI wrote: »

They are called the Irish Rangers who actively train with other international anti terrorist units abroad such as the S.A.S.
Selection is through the PDF which isn't easy.

The Rangers/SAS are the hammer. The Secret Service the OP mentions, I assume, is the MI5, or the US equivalent, the CIA, are the arm.

As regards Ireland having one, I don't think so.

Garda Intelligence Bureau would be the equivalent of Scotland Yard, the smart coppers.

CIA/MI5 equivalent would be? Not this G2. That's Army Intelligence. The smart soldiers.

Hmmm.

I hope my intoxicated ramblings make sense in the morning.

irishgeo

We have one a couple of the budgets in the good times had money allocated to the irish secret service.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/budget-for-secret-service-increases-to-1m-2542266.html

Pottler

Just for the "oh yeah" factor, my wifes friends daughter is married to a lad who is in it.:) He gets to carry a gun, wear civvies and hide in a Nissan Primera watching scummers at funny hours of the day and night. Lucky sod. Part of the Gardai, btw. I'm surrounded by them - at family get togethers I win the "I've a dull job" award, and I don't, by any reasonable standards. Bit hard to compete with "well, last week we were in the US practising rapelling from a chopper over water" with "we repaired a big concrete slab"!!

GoodGunsGordon

Special Detective Unit Red Section back in the 70's when the Russians used Dublin as a British back door and the Troubles were trouble.

diomed

I hope the Irish secret service is a bunch of lads that go to embassy functions (others obv.), get locked, learn stuff, and can't remember it the next day.

KyussBishop

Judging by the actions of the US and UK, wouldn't surprise me if they're at work with our telecoms companies, helping to tap the data centers of the online multinationals, and probably (while they're at it) the rest of us too.

Previous governments here have been known for corrupt wiretapping, so I don't see any reason why it wouldn't still be going on.

EireGun

Irish Defence Forces: Directorate of Intelligence (G2) Headquarters at the Department of Defence HQ at Station Road, Newbridge, County Kildare, Ireland



HQ of the Directorate of Intelligence (G2), the intelligence branch of the Irish Defence Forces (DF). The G2 is the national intelligence agency of Ireland, working alongside An Garda Síochána national specialist units, such as; Crime & Security Branch (CSB), Special Detective Unit (SDU) and National Surveillance Unit (NSU). The Directorate of Intelligence is based at the Department of Defence (DOD) HQ at Station Road, Newbridge Town, County Kildare, Ireland and carries out covert joint-operations with the Irish Army Ranger Wing (ARW), based in the Curragh Camp nearby.


Centre of Operations for the Directorate of Intelligence (G2) is McKee Barracks, Blackhorse Avenue, Dublin 7, Ireland.

An Garda Síochána: Crime and Security Branch (CSB) Headquarters, Phoenix Park, Dublin 8, Ireland

HQ of Ireland's domestic intelligence service, the Garda Crime & Security Branch (CSB) (counter-espionage and counter-terrorism), formerly known as "C3" at the Garda Headquarters, Phoenix Park, Dublin 8. This building houses the Security and Intelligence Unit and part of the Special Detective Unit (SDU) or "Special Branch", whose main centre of operations is at Harcourt Street, Dublin 2 (Garda Dublin Metropolitan Regional/DMR HQ). The National Surveillance Unit (NSU) is also based in the Phoenix Park and Harcourt St, along with the Emergency Response Unit (ERU). These units work alongside the Irish Defence Forces Directorate of Intelligence (G2), based in Newbridge, County Kildare at the Department of Defence HQ.

An Garda Síochána: Special Detective Unit (SDU) Headquarters, Harcourt Street, Dublin 2, Ireland

HQ of the premier counter-terrorism unit in Ireland, the Garda Special Detective Unit (SDU) or "Special Branch", at the Garda Dublin Metropolitan Region (DMR) HQ at Harcourt St, Dublin 2. The Special Detective Unit operates under the command of the Garda Crime & Security Branch (CSB), which is present at both Harcourt Street and the Phoenix Park, Dublin 8. The building also houses the Garda National Surveillance Unit (NSU) and Garda Emergency Response Unit (ERU), the latter of which is under the command of the Special Detective Unit. The SDU works closely with the Irish Defence Forces (DF) Directorate of Intelligence (G2), which is based in Newbridge Town, County Kildare, Ireland.

Old Irish Military Intelligence HQ: Irish Army G2 (Directorate of Intelligence) at Defence Forces GHQ, Parkgate, Infirmary Road, Dublin 7, Republic of Ireland.

WoollyRedHat

Finally, biding your time ey!

Has anyone come up with some good infiltration strategies?

foggy_lad

Whatever you say, say nothing, when you talk about you know what.
For if you know who should hear you, you know what you'll get...

Fred Swanson

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Dynamo Roller

me and my friendz

DEFTLEFTHAND

Remember when Mossad used stolen Irish passports for operatives to commit a murder in a Dubai hotel. The US reputedly told Ireland to drop it and shut their squawking beaks like good little chaps.

Who did they liaise with I wonder when conveying this message.

WilyCoyote

Opus Dei are the only ones that I know of.

WilyCoyote

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Remember when Mossad used stolen Irish passports for operatives to commit a murder in a Dubai hotel. The US reputedly told Ireland to drop it and shut their squawking beaks like good little chaps.

Who did they liaise with I wonder when conveying this message.

No prizes for that one!

average hero

dj jarvis wrote: »

there is, and always has been since 1918
its called g2 - Micheal Collins was its first director

read a book by Maurice Walsh - in defense of Ireland - Irish military intelligence 1918 -45 , very interesting read

at this present moment - Irish military intelligence has people who can speak fluent Arabic, monitoring " watched individuals " phone calls , texts and emails , they also have the ability to monitor Skype and other social media

along with having the ability of the un manned drones they purchased from Israel to monitor - do NOT under estimate the resources of G2

a real good ploy is to appear farcical and stupid and ill equipped
works wonders for the boys of G2



I have said enough

You seem to have a lot of (what I assume is) accurate information Jarvis!

sawdoubters

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directorate_of_Intelligence_(Ireland)