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School Looking at Students Twitter Accounts

  • 12-11-2012 9:09pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 18


    I go to a Community School and today a student was asked by our Vice Principle to Delete his twitter because he was talking about students and Teachers on his Account. There is absolutely no reason a Teacher should be on a students Twitter account, it would not surprise me in the slightest if they were going through all our accounts. This same school that goes through peoples phones when they are confiscated...

    I find it kind of funny and if a Teacher tells me to delete mine i'll laugh at them, it can't be allowed can it?

    Anybody else hear about this happening anywhere else?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 555 ✭✭✭Hippies!


    The draaaaaaaaaaaaaama,
    Jaysus future of the country right here :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 346 ✭✭Big Bottom


    You shouldnt be using Twitter in school though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    OMG, like they totes can't do that :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 491 ✭✭Spiritual


    I go to a Community School and today a student was asked by our Vice Principle to Delete his twitter because he was talking about students and Teachers on his Account. There is absolutely no reason a Teacher should be on a students Twitter account, it would not surprise me in the slightest if they were going through all our accounts. This same school that goes through peoples phones when they are confiscated...

    I find it kind of funny and if a Teacher tells me to delete mine i'll laugh at them, it can't be allowed can it?

    Anybody else hear about this happening anywhere else?

    Do your homework.


  • Registered Users Posts: 97 ✭✭reginald


    I go to a Community School and today a student was asked by our Vice Principle to Delete his twitter because he was talking about students and Teachers on his Account. There is absolutely no reason a Teacher should be on a students Twitter account, it would not surprise me in the slightest if they were going through all our accounts. This same school that goes through peoples phones when they are confiscated...

    I find it kind of funny and if a Teacher tells me to delete mine i'll laugh at them, it can't be allowed can it?

    Anybody else hear about this happening anywhere else?


    That'll teach em


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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,572 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    When you defame them on Twitter, it's your god given right to absolute free speech. Conversely, when they look at it and object to it, it's the worst kind of fascism.

    I presume there's some kind of bull**** CSPE module on "Having Your Cake and Eating It" these days?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    Remember the days when in school you used to get educated?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭areyawell


    If a teacher ever demands your phone you have no obligation to give the phone to them. Under no circumstance give them your phone! Threatened me with suspension over it and rang my parents over it. Parents told them to cop I need it for work.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,233 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    If your twitter is public anyone with a computer can look at it, including teachers, employers etc. Nothing you can do about it other than make it private.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    Dey b dissing ya peeps


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 581 ✭✭✭phoenix999


    Try to remember that people have ended up in Jail in the UK for saying dumb things on Twitter. With bullying very much in the headlines lately, students should have the cop on not to be talking about other students or teachers on Twitter or Facebook. People are under enough pressure these days without little gits spreading crap on the interweb about them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭Cool_CM


    There is absolutely no reason a Teacher should be on a students Twitter account, it would not surprise me in the slightest if they were going through all our accounts.

    Why not? Especially seeing as the whole concept of cyber bullying is being bigged up so much right now.

    It's not like students don't try and track down teachers on Facebook etc...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,605 ✭✭✭Fizman


    I go to a Community School and today a student was asked by our Vice Principle to Delete his twitter because he was talking about students and Teachers on his Account. There is absolutely no reason a Teacher should be on a students Twitter account, it would not surprise me in the slightest if they were going through all our accounts. This same school that goes through peoples phones when they are confiscated...

    I find it kind of funny and if a Teacher tells me to delete mine i'll laugh at them, it can't be allowed can it?

    Anybody else hear about this happening anywhere else?

    What??

    If my old principle was going through my phone after it was confiscated.....I would have punched her in the ovaries.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 491 ✭✭Spiritual


    I remember that the teachers would give you a swift kick up the arse and pass no apology.
    Retaliation was expected and then everyone just got back to learning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,005 ✭✭✭✭Toto Wolfcastle


    They might not be able to get to to remove your account but depending on the Code of Behaviour they might be able to discipline you for what you write on it. I've seen many students suspended over what they have written about teachers and students on Twitter and Facebook.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 777 ✭✭✭boogle


    You have no right to post any comment, in a public arena, which may defame a teacher. You want to bitch about your teachers? Fine, just TALK to your friends about it. Just like the good old days.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭juan.kerr


    I go to a Community School and today a student was asked by our Vice Principle to Delete his twitter because he was talking about students and Teachers on his Account. There is absolutely no reason a Teacher should be on a students Twitter account, it would not surprise me in the slightest if they were going through all our accounts. This same school that goes through peoples phones when they are confiscated...

    I find it kind of funny and if a Teacher tells me to delete mine i'll laugh at them, it can't be allowed can it?

    Anybody else hear about this happening anywhere else?

    And what did this student have to say about his fellow students and his teachers?

    All positive I'm sure.

    I can understand why you might not want teachers going through your phone contents (ever heard of locking it?) but don't see the issue with them looking at your tweets.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    If i was to walk out on the street naked in front of everybody to see and people I don't want looking start looking,should i feel like the victim?


    No,put some fooking clothes on.


    now lets translate this

    If i put my whole life up on public display on the internet for everybody to see,should i be offended when people i don't want looking at it,see it?


    No,stop plastering your **** all over a public domain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 967 ✭✭✭HeyThereDeliah


    I go to a Community School and today a student was asked by our Vice Principle to Delete his twitter because he was talking about students and Teachers on his Account. There is absolutely no reason a Teacher should be on a students Twitter account, it would not surprise me in the slightest if they were going through all our accounts. This same school that goes through peoples phones when they are confiscated...

    I find it kind of funny and if a Teacher tells me to delete mine i'll laugh at them, it can't be allowed can it?

    Anybody else hear about this happening anywhere else?

    I don't think the school can make you close the account but they can take action if someone is spreading rumours about the school and teachers.
    It's not a good idea to be talking about people on twitter or any Internet forum for that matter.

    I'm not preaching to you but a little bit of respect for teachers goes a long way, they are trying to do their job, students are not always cooperative either.

    I'm sure there is a no phone policy in the school, if students are caught using the phone during the day then expect it to be confiscated.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    This same school that goes through peoples phones when they are confiscated...

    well that's their own faults for being too stupid to turn it off.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,515 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    Children should not be allowed to post on twitter. They should be allowed to view and search tweets. At this age they have no real contribution to give.

    If the kids do not have the intelligence to use an alias then the future is bleak.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Children should not be allowed to post on twitter. They should be allowed to view and search tweets. At this age they have no real contribution to give.

    You could say the same about 99.9% of tweeters.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    Fizman wrote: »
    What??

    If my old principle was going through my phone after it was confiscated.....I would have punched her in the ovaries.
    Remove the sim card.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    At this age they have no real contribution to give.

    the ones who use twitter probably won't in the future either from what i've been exposed to.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭Optimalprimerib


    Teachers are dead right to be checking twitter accounts with what was going on with cyber bullying the last year or so and if you have anything slandering a student or teacher you deserve the punishment.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    Thats why you dont use your real name. Never yet have I used my real name on a social website nor any information that will compromise my identity.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    You have no right to write stuff about other people and put it on display for everyone. Either make it private or don't use it.

    People get offended, you shouldn't put up things that offend other people on public places. Teachers are people too, if you didn't know and they're doing their jobs to make a living.

    You can have your little bitchy moan about teachers to your friends in private all you want.

    And whoever said you're not obliged to hand over your phone, cop on. All schools have rules, it will say mobile devices will be confiscated if used in classes, both students and parents sign these rules. If you don't like it, leave. You should've never joined the school.

    Coming from another student


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,144 ✭✭✭Katgurl


    Are you for real?

    1) Publishing something publicly to the net and then complaining about someone looking at it - that's the whole point, it's public.

    2) Do you know what's going on in the world, cyber bullying is getting huge amount of attention, of course schools are monitoring students web activity and taking steps to protect students and teachers. In fact even before the age of social media any decent school had an anti-bullying strategy, but bullying was a bit harder to detect then. Putting it in writing with your name beside it is the height of stupidity.

    3) Lock your phone.

    4) Grow up. In most cases your teachers are only doing their jobs. They are actual human beings with feelings so try to bear that in mind when you launch a personal cyber attack on them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    Remove the sim card.

    What will that prevent, most kids have smartphones and BlackBerrys and send messages and im's without using the phone network


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    I go to a Community School and today a student was asked by our Vice Principle to Delete his twitter because he was talking about students and Teachers on his Account. There is absolutely no reason a Teacher should be on a students Twitter account, it would not surprise me in the slightest if they were going through all our accounts. This same school that goes through peoples phones when they are confiscated...

    I find it kind of funny and if a Teacher tells me to delete mine i'll laugh at them, it can't be allowed can it?

    Anybody else hear about this happening anywhere else?
    Anyone with their profile open for the public to view has no argument, be it twitter, facebook or whatever. Young people need to understand that it doesn't stop when you're at school either, companies offering jobs 'screen' their potential employees. Guess what, the world is bigger than students and their social lives.. It's also a tool for anyone looking for information on you.

    If your twitter is public anyone with a computer can look at it, including teachers, employers etc. Nothing you can do about it other than make it private.
    Boom.
    phoenix999 wrote: »
    Try to remember that people have ended up in Jail in the UK for saying dumb things on Twitter. With bullying very much in the headlines lately, students should have the cop on not to be talking about other students or teachers on Twitter or Facebook. People are under enough pressure these days without little gits spreading crap on the interweb about them.
    ^ This.
    pmcmahon wrote: »
    If i was to walk out on the street naked in front of everybody to see and people I don't want looking start looking,should i feel like the victim?


    No,put some fooking clothes on.


    now lets translate this

    If i put my whole life up on public display on the internet for everybody to see,should i be offended when people i don't want looking at it,see it?


    No,stop plastering your **** all over a public domain.

    Annnnd.... Boom.


  • Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭bob the bob


    PogMoThoin wrote: »
    What will that prevent, most kids have smartphones and BlackBerrys and send messages and im's without using the phone network

    The SIM card connects you to the data network as well as the voice network.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin



    The SIM card connects you to the data network as well as the voice network.

    I fail to see what that prevents when the device has Wi-Fi


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,279 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    In loco parentis is the phrase that covers it I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,427 ✭✭✭Morag


    Check the code of conduct for the school, some of the Community schools have a policy that
    Circulating, publishing or distributing (including on the internet) material associated with school activities including but not limited to material in relation to staff and students were such circulation undermines, humiliates or causes damage to another person is considered a serious breach of school discipline and may result in disciplinary action.

    As part of such disciplinary action the Board of Management reserves the right to suspend or expel a student or students where it considers the actions to warrant such sanctions.


    Anyone who is stupid enough to be spouting off on twitter with a non locked account about students or teachers or the school is going to be found out and is an idiot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,427 ✭✭✭Morag


    Children should not be allowed to post on twitter. They should be allowed to view and search tweets. At this age they have no real contribution to give.

    There is no age restriction on twitter for setting up accounts.
    I've seen 12 year olds publicly tweeting at each other treating it like text messages cos they were using the app on their phones.
    If the kids do not have the intelligence to use an alias then the future is bleak.

    Their parent's don't have a clue, there are at least two generations out there who don't know why a person would use a handle.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 491 ✭✭Spiritual


    spurious wrote: »
    In loco parentis is the phrase that covers it I think.

    My parents are nuts. Good parents though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,378 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Fizman wrote: »
    What??

    If my old principle was going through my phone after it was confiscated.....I would have punched her in the ovaries.

    I would have wanted to know what they were doing in my house.

    I feel old.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,553 ✭✭✭✭Copper_pipe


    Remember the Bebo stunnahs


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    Remember the Bebo stunnahs

    how could i forget.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 948 ✭✭✭Muir


    It's possible that there are parents who actually give a **** out there and check their children's twitter account & reported it to the school. While I wouldn't blame a school for looking to try & keep track of bullying etc. do schools really have the resources to be looking for the Twitter accounts of all students?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    Muir wrote: »
    It's possible that there are parents who actually give a **** out there and check their children's twitter account & reported it to the school. While I wouldn't blame a school for looking to try & keep track of bullying etc. do schools really have the resources to be looking for the Twitter accounts of all students?

    well if a school has a staff of around 20 they could power through every students page in a day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,005 ✭✭✭✭Toto Wolfcastle


    Muir wrote: »
    It's possible that there are parents who actually give a **** out there and check their children's twitter account & reported it to the school. While I wouldn't blame a school for looking to try & keep track of bullying etc. do schools really have the resources to be looking for the Twitter accounts of all students?
    Or they might have been told by a student. That happens quite often.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 948 ✭✭✭Muir


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    well if a school has a staff of around 20 they could power through every students page in a day.

    Yeah but they have jobs & lives. I can't see them all sitting there looking for each student, and then they'd probably have to do the same on Facebook etc. and search through it.

    Bobblehead Panda, yeah, easily could have been a student too.

    I think anyone using the internet really needs to understand the implications. When my niece was starting secondary I was chatting with the principal and she told me that one of the first things she tells students is not to post anything on the internet that you wouldn't put up on the noticeboard in school or the mantelpiece at home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,384 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    I go to a Community School and today a student was asked by our Vice Principle to Delete his twitter because he was talking about students and Teachers on his Account. There is absolutely no reason a Teacher should be on a students Twitter account, it would not surprise me in the slightest if they were going through all our accounts.



    If your account is public anyone can read it. You can't stop teachers from reading it. If you have a problem with them reading it set it to private. If you are going to slag off your teachers online in the public domain and possibly say slanderous things about them be prepared for the backlash.

    If you defame their characters or those of other students you may find yourself on the receiving end of a few solicitor's letters.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    Remember the days when in school you used to get educated?


    Really? When did they start doing this?

    It was Irish poetry and coordinate geometry of the circle in my day


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    Really? When did they start doing this?

    It was Irish poetry and coordinate geometry of the circle in my day

    granted the irish poetry part,but maths in school believe it or not actually works in the real world.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Solair


    OP, you realise that putting stuff on Twitter is publishing it into the public domain, right?

    Anyone can browse what you're saying on Twitter, that's exactly how Twitter works unless you're sending PMs and even in that case, I wouldn't be entirely confident that they'd be secure either.

    Basically, if you're going to say something on Twitter you should be able to do the following:

    A tweet should comply with the following simple test:

    Can you :

    1: Stand over it legally i.e. it's not defamatory or otherwise libelous and would not constitute harassment, racism, incitement to hatred etc.

    2: Could you say it to someone's face?

    3: Is it something you would be happy with your friends, family, colleagues etc reading now or at any time in the future.

    If it doesn't pass those three tests, don't Tweet it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    I go to a Community School and today a student was asked by our Vice Principle to Delete his twitter because he was talking about students and Teachers on his Account. There is absolutely no reason a Teacher should be on a students Twitter account, it would not surprise me in the slightest if they were going through all our accounts. This same school that goes through peoples phones when they are confiscated...

    I find it kind of funny and if a Teacher tells me to delete mine i'll laugh at them, it can't be allowed can it?

    Anybody else hear about this happening anywhere else?

    OF course it's a disgrace, but I have fairly little sympathy - it doesn't take 30 seconds to lock your Twitter and password protect your phone to prevent this kind of snooping.

    Not justifying the school's behavior, but if you give people in authority the ability to stick their nose in, they will. Better to just pre-empt that and ring fence your online self from general creeping.


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