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What happens when a drink driving ban is up?

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    #32
    Stheno
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    kneemos wrote: »
    They may have changed the rules but it certainly used to be the case.

    From Citizens Information
    Removal of a disqualification

    The rules which allow for the removal of a disqualification were changed from 5 March 2007. Under the rules only people who have been disqualified for the first time for a period of more than 2 years will be allowed to apply to the court to have their disqualification removed and their driving licence restored. At least half of the period of disqualification must have elapsed, however, before the person can apply for the restoration of their licence.

    The court may only reduce the overall period of the disqualification to a minimum of two-thirds of the period specified in the original disqualification order.

    When a court is considering an application for the restoration of a driving licence it will look at the nature of the offence, the character of the applicant and the conduct of the applicant after conviction.


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    #33
    bedirect
    Registered Users Posts: 198 ✭✭bedirect


    Your friend just carries on as normal from the date it is restored. The ban comes into affect 14 days after conviction, so it is 2 years or whatever from that date. You can go to court & look for it back earlier if you have half your time done (call into your local district court clerk office) its called " application to restore driving licence" .Represent yourself, i think you pay 30-50 euros, just apologise to the court & say you wont do it again. A solicitor will charge you 200 euros to do the same thing.


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    #34
    Rabidlamb
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭Rabidlamb


    Sorry, I'm late into the thread, I'm over from the Motors forum.

    Your friend has committed a heinous crime & should never be allowed drive again.
    What he has done is worse than murder, rape & murder, followed by another rape.
    He should have his endorsement tattooed on his forehead & be made pull the rock of shame behind his bicycle for the rest of his days.

    Cheers, thx, bi

    Mod: User banned.


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    #35
    HeyThereDeliah
    Closed Accounts Posts: 967 ✭✭✭HeyThereDeliah


    0ph0rce0 wrote: »

    I didn't give a **** cause I didn't do anything wrong, so I copied my license before it got stamped and always sent that in for insurance, yes I know fraud, wasn't paying 4000 to drive, when I got it back it was just handed back no retest

    When in the station the guards kept asking me Do You Have Anything To Say? YES I Said I wasn't even in my car nevermind ****ing driving, Scumbags.

    I don't understand the mentality of people paying for insurance like this by lying, why pay anything you are not insured if anything happens, it's a waste of money. The only person you are fooling is yourself.


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    #36
    gustafo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭gustafo


    Rabidlamb wrote: »
    Sorry, I'm late into the thread, I'm over from the Motors forum.

    Your friend has committed a heinous crime & should never be allowed drive again.
    What he has done is worse than murder, rape & murder, followed by another rape.
    He should have his endorsement tattooed on his forehead & be made pull the rock of shame behind his bicycle for the rest of his days.

    Cheers, thx, bi

    Don't talk ****.


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    #37
    kenyard
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    ill just leave this here



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    #38
    0ph0rce0
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    HeyThereDeliah wrote: »
    I don't understand the mentality of people paying for insurance like this by lying, why pay anything you are not insured if anything happens, it's a waste of money. The only person you are fooling is yourself.

    Well if I didn't I couldn't drive.


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    #39
    DAZP93
    Registered Users Posts: 345 ✭✭DAZP93


    kneemos wrote: »
    They may have changed the rules but it certainly used to be the case.

    I was told by a solicitor that if the convicted was given a sentence of 2 years and 1 day that the ban may be apealed. My friend was given a ban of 2 years!

    He can not appeal his ban. (His solicitor advised him of this)

    I may be totaly wrong but this is what he has been told :confused:


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    #40
    Sitec
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    you can drive again.


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    #41
    DAZP93
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    Rabidlamb wrote: »
    Sorry, I'm late into the thread, I'm over from the Motors forum.

    Your friend has committed a heinous crime & should never be allowed drive again.
    What he has done is worse than murder, rape & murder, followed by another rape.
    He should have his endorsement tattooed on his forehead & be made pull the rock of shame behind his bicycle for the rest of his days.

    Cheers, thx, bi


    D**khead!!


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    #42
    HeyThereDeliah
    Closed Accounts Posts: 967 ✭✭✭HeyThereDeliah


    0ph0rce0 wrote: »
    Well if I didn't I couldn't drive.

    you were driving without insurance, you ok with this? If you hit someone what would you do ?


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    #43
    gustafo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭gustafo


    DAZP93 wrote: »
    I was told by a solicitor that if the convicted was given a sentence of 2 years and 1 day that the ban may be apealed. My friend was given a ban of 2 years!

    He can not appeal his ban. (His solicitor advised him of this)

    I may be totaly wrong but this is what he has been told :confused:

    yes thats correct, that's why most solicitors ask in court for the extra day, so if you get 2 years and a day you can get you licence back after 16 months off the road.


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    #44
    0ph0rce0
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    HeyThereDeliah wrote: »
    you were driving without insurance, you ok with this? If you hit someone what would you do ?

    But I did have insurance kind of, chances are 50/50 getting your license inspected.

    Plus if I crashed and had to pay up, chances are again it would have been cheaper than paying 4000 a year for 3 years, thats 12000.

    Better to be stopped by the guards and have insurance than none.

    Needed a car for work, so nothing I could do, and like I said I couldn't care less because the guards are lying scum and I did nothing wrong.


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    #45
    Sunnyisland
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    Rabidlamb wrote: »
    Sorry, I'm late into the thread, I'm over from the Motors forum.

    Your friend has committed a heinous crime & should never be allowed drive again.
    What he has done is worse than murder, rape & murder, followed by another rape.
    He should have his endorsement tattooed on his forehead & be made pull the rock of shame behind his bicycle for the rest of his days.

    Cheers, thx, bi


    Ye be aswell going back over there so :)


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    #46
    StephenHendry
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    i thought you had to start from scratch again op, not that it would encourage to chance a few drinks and drive home from the pub :p


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    #47
    HeyThereDeliah
    Closed Accounts Posts: 967 ✭✭✭HeyThereDeliah


    0ph0rce0 wrote: »
    But I did have insurance kind of, chances are 50/50 getting your license inspected.

    Plus if I crashed and had to pay up, chances are again it would have been cheaper than paying 4000 a year for 3 years, thats 12000.

    Better to be stopped by the guards and have insurance than none.

    Needed a car for work, so nothing I could do, and like I said I couldn't care less because the guards are lying scum and I did nothing wrong.

    You realise your insurance is invalid in this situation, if you had an accident your insurance will not cover you.
    If you killed someone could you put a price on their life?

    The guards did not make you tell a lie to your insurance company.


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    #48
    0ph0rce0
    Registered Users Posts: 3,918 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    HeyThereDeliah wrote: »
    You realise your insurance is invalid in this situation, if you had an accident your insurance will not cover you.
    If you killed someone could you put a price on their life?

    The guards did not make you tell a lie to your insurance company.

    Like I said I took a chance, had to be done, no other way.

    No they didn't make me lie, but they lied in court in the first place and got me into the situation I was in.


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    #49
    kneemos
    Registered Users Posts: 20,410 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    0ph0rce0 wrote: »
    But I did have insurance kind of, chances are 50/50 getting your license inspected.

    Plus if I crashed and had to pay up, chances are again it would have been cheaper than paying 4000 a year for 3 years, thats 12000.

    Better to be stopped by the guards and have insurance than none.

    Needed a car for work, so nothing I could do, and like I said I couldn't care less because the guards are lying scum and I did nothing wrong.

    It was the judge that convicted you.


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    #50
    0ph0rce0
    Registered Users Posts: 3,918 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    kneemos wrote: »
    It was the judge that convicted you.

    No **** Sherlock

    Because of the lies that the guards told


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    #51
    gustafo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭gustafo


    0ph0rce0 wrote: »
    Like I said I took a chance, had to be done, no other way.

    No they didn't make me lie, but they lied in court in the first place and got me into the situation I was in.

    But you will be caught soon enough, there is a new thing coming in where insurance company's are going to be able to check the persons driving history before they insure them, it was supposed to come in in january but it's been delayed,

    So how are you going to explain that one to the insurance company when your renewal is up and they can check you out before insuring you??


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    #52
    0ph0rce0
    Registered Users Posts: 3,918 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    gustafo wrote: »
    But you will be caught soon enough, there is a new thing coming in where insurance company's are going to be able to check the persons driving history before they insure them, it was supposed to come in in january but it's been delayed,

    So how are you going to explain that one to the insurance company when your renewal is up and they can check you out before insuring you??

    this was years ago so I have a clean license now, doesn't really matter anymore.


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    #53
    HeyThereDeliah
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    0ph0rce0 wrote: »
    Like I said I took a chance, had to be done, no other way.

    No they didn't make me lie, but they lied in court in the first place and got me into the situation I was in.

    No you got you into the situation you were in same as the choice you made to lie to your insurance company, it's your own doing no one else's but keep telling yourself its everyone else's fault if it makes you feel better.

    You were done for drunk in charge and then to add to it you decided to drive around without insurance or drivers licence giving no thought to the consequences of what would happen if you were involved in an accident.


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    #54
    kneemos
    Registered Users Posts: 20,410 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    0ph0rce0 wrote: »
    No **** Sherlock

    Because of the lies that the guards told

    Do tell.


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    #55
    gustafo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭gustafo


    0ph0rce0 wrote: »
    this was years ago so I have a clean license now, doesn't really matter anymore.

    ohh yes it will because when you get insurance you have to declare your convictions,

    So if you tell then you have no convictions and they check it out and it shows you have what are you going to do then?


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    #56
    0ph0rce0
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    HeyThereDeliah wrote: »
    No you got you into the situation you were in same as the choice you made to lie to your insurance company, it's your own doing no one else's but keep telling yourself its everyone else's fault if it makes you feel better.

    You were done for drunk in charge and then to add to it you decided to drive around without insurance or drivers licence giving no thought to the consequences of what would happen if you were involved in an accident.

    I was done for drink driving, driving erratically around roads. LIES!!!!

    I never drove without insurance, fair enough it wasn't 100% legit, but I had it and never drove without a license.


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    #57
    HeyThereDeliah
    Closed Accounts Posts: 967 ✭✭✭HeyThereDeliah


    0ph0rce0 wrote: »
    this was years ago so I have a clean license now, doesn't really matter anymore.

    So if your insurance ask you were you ever convicted of any driving offences will you tell the truth?
    Will you admit you used a fake licence while of the road to get insurance?


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    #58
    Stheno
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    0ph0rce0 wrote: »
    I never drove without insurance, fair enough it wasn't 100% legit, but I had it and never drove without a license.

    Your driving ban invalidated your insurance and while banned you had no licence, so the above two statements are untrue.


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    #59
    0ph0rce0
    Registered Users Posts: 3,918 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    HeyThereDeliah wrote: »
    So if your insurance ask you were you ever convicted of any driving offences will you tell the truth?
    Will you admit you used a fake licence while of the road to get insurance?

    Yes, I have and always have since the endorsement was removed from my license, and always been fine, no price increases because of it. €350 every year.


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    #60
    Yellowblackbird
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    0ph0rce0 wrote: »
    this was years ago so I have a clean license now, doesn't really matter anymore.


    I'd say you were done for "drunk in charge" and not drunk driving. Meaning you were caught before you started driving.


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    #61
    HeyThereDeliah
    Closed Accounts Posts: 967 ✭✭✭HeyThereDeliah


    0ph0rce0 wrote: »
    I was done for drink driving, driving erratically around roads. LIES!!!!

    I never drove without insurance, fair enough it wasn't 100% legit, but I had it and never drove without a license.

    what part of disqualified to drive do you not understand?

    you had no insurance and no license because you should not be driving.

    we will leave out the fraud, to complicated for you.


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