Waterford Airport.

looksee · 21-06-2017 10:49am

I think it is only the Luton flights available today, the others will follow shortly.

Deiseen · 21-06-2017 10:50am

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

Has anyone booked flights yet ?. On the website any dates I put in shows none available.

It appears to not be working correctly. Website seems very flakey.

Deiseen · 21-06-2017 10:50am

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

Has anyone booked flights yet ?. On the website any dates I put in shows none available.

It appears to not be working correctly. Website seems very flakey.

JCX BXC · 21-06-2017 10:51am

Are you booking after July 24th? No flights before then.

Squidvicious · 21-06-2017 11:31am

Deiseen wrote: »

I think check in still closes 45 mins before take off. I'd only aim to be in Dublin 2 hours before because of any potential issues on the way up really.

That's true but I'd be wary of showing up in Dublin unless you're there 2 hours before. Most of the time, you'd be fine but if the security queues are long, you can find the time going fairly quickly. As you say, there's always a risk of a delay I Dublin. Or maybe I'm just too cautious:D.

Squidvicious · 21-06-2017 11:33am

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

Has anyone booked flights yet ?. On the website any dates I put in shows none available.

That's exactly what I found too. Either they've been incredibly successful and are booked out already or there's a glitch on their website. Or I'm f*cking up my search:eek:

dzilla · 21-06-2017 11:47am

they should remove the "search" function for departure and destination. A drop down would be perfect and less clunky. Its not as if they will have 30 or so destinations going forward so a the list is not exhaustive. A drop down menu is more user friendly.

sillysocks · 21-06-2017 11:56am

The airport Facebook says that the site is down but they're working on it. Not a good start!

JCX BXC · 21-06-2017 12:52pm

Looks like quite a rush job.

Let's hope it's traffic volumes that caused it to crash

Edit: Extra security protocol, looks more like a cyber attack

dzilla · 21-06-2017 1:36pm

The site made by a company who deliver booking engines for small airlines with niche and limited destinations, the website is perfect for a small operation trying to maximize profit without all the add on's associated with low fares websites

Luckycharms_74 · 21-06-2017 1:42pm

JCX BXC wrote: »

Are you booking after July 24th? No flights before then.

Yeah trying September flights.

dark crystal · 22-06-2017 9:07pm

No dates in August available for me either. Are they all sold out or is the site just not working properly??

23-06-2017 5:25pm

Not off to a good start, WLR reporting at 12 today, that the airline had to stop selling tickets as they do not have a licence.

Deiseen · 23-06-2017 5:35pm

914 wrote: »

Not off to a good start, WLR reporting at 12 today, that the airline had to stop selling tickets as they do not have a licence.

A license for what? Either way that is really not good....

23-06-2017 5:37pm

Deiseen wrote: »

A license for what? Either way that is really not good....

They said a "Tour" licence. Not sure what that means.

questionmark? · 23-06-2017 6:10pm

914 wrote: »

Not off to a good start, WLR reporting at 12 today, that the airline had to stop selling tickets as they do not have a licence.

The whole thing so far seems really premature. Announcing flights before the website was up and running, saying three routes are starting but only selling Luton at the start which is a contradiction to the intial headlines, just over a months notice for the first flight when many book much further in advance, website going down almost straight away with what looks like a security attack hence the I'm not a robot checks to get into the website and now unable to book a flight due to not having a licence. It's almost like they want it to fail!!!

CelticRambler · 23-06-2017 7:40pm

Probably a tour operator's licence. No-one can sell airline tickets other than the airline itself (if it has an operating license itself) or someone holding a tour operator's licence, which is specific to the state - so Aer Southeast would need an Irish one to sell tickets ex Waterford, and another to sell tickets ex UK.

JCX BXC · 24-06-2017 9:08am

Very poor for a service that needs everything available to it to get off the ground. It's causing it's fail before it begins.

dzilla · 24-06-2017 4:37pm

JCX BXC wrote: »

Very poor for a service that needs everything available to it to get off the ground. It's causing it's fail before it begins.

You called it

Deiseen · 24-06-2017 4:44pm

JCX BXC wrote: »

Very poor for a service that needs everything available to it to get off the ground. It's causing it's fail before it begins.

I can actually feel how much you want this venture to fail through my computer. I'll bet you'll be popping the champagne when it folds up and people lose their jobs.

JCX BXC · 24-06-2017 6:12pm

Deiseen wrote: »

I can actually feel how much you want this venture to fail through my computer. I'll bet you'll be popping the champagne when it folds up and people lose their jobs.

I want nothing but the opposite, I've vested interests in waterford and would love for this to succeed, sadly you can't see past fantasy it seems.

And people losing their jobs? Explain to me who will be losing their jobs? Seems like a very poor arguement for keeping a service that isn't viable. Don't the inefficient state companies use this excuse?

Deiseen · 24-06-2017 6:17pm

JCX BXC wrote: »

Deiseen wrote: »

I can actually feel how much you want this venture to fail through my computer. I'll bet you'll be popping the champagne when it folds up and people lose their jobs.

I want nothing but the opposite, I've vested interests in waterford and would love for this to succeed, sadly you can't see past fantasy it seems.

And people losing their jobs? Explain to me who will be losing their jobs? Seems like a very poor arguement for keeping a service that isn't viable. Don't the inefficient state companies use this excuse?

Whats the fantasy? Everyone on here knows what the company is up against and has stated the booking thing is a major mishap, including myself. You on the other hand have contributed nothing other than saying that its foolish and they well never succeed.

As for the jobs. I'm sure the company is run by bots and has absolutely no one working for it at the moment.

JCX BXC · 24-06-2017 6:25pm

Deiseen wrote: »

Whats the fantasy? Everyone on here knows what the company is up against and has stated the booking thing is a major mishap, including myself. You on the other hand have contributed nothing other than saying that its foolish and they well never succeed.

As for the jobs. I'm sure the company is run by bots and has absolutely no one working for it at the moment.

The only problem you seem to have is that I don't have the same opinion as you. Respectfully, take off the rose tinted glasses and look at the service. The chances of it succeeding are low, mishaps (already), no known name, high prices and low frequency. All things bad for a service. Without a big money pool this service has no chance of success, I suppose we'll find out soon enough how big the money pool is.

Sully · 26-06-2017 8:03pm

Hitting National News now;
http://www.breakingnews.ie/business/irish-airline-to-stop-selling-tickets-because-they-do-not-have-licence-795219.html

It does strike me as odd that they'd launch a service, media and advertising, selling tickets and then have to stop selling tickets because they didn't have all the boxes ticked in order to operate.

Just would have assumed this would have all been covered before they launched.

JCX BXC · 26-06-2017 9:55pm

Quite disappointing, not the start the service needed.

Deiseen · 26-06-2017 10:58pm

JCX BXC wrote: »

Quite disappointing, not the start the service needed.

You seem to know a bit more than most. Do you know if this is something that can't be sorted relatively quick?

JCX BXC · 26-06-2017 11:09pm

Deiseen wrote: »

You seem to know a bit more than most. Do you know if this is something that can't be sorted relatively quick?

I don't know what arrangement they plan to have, so no frankly I don't have a clue sorry.

Even if it is sorted, that's damage to sales and PR already. Hopefully they sort it soon.

Anyway, If you're to take an optimistic approach to it it may result in more people hearing about the airline, the old Ryanair approach of all PR is good PR.

Masala · 27-06-2017 12:29am

Deiseen wrote: »

You seem to know a bit more than most. Do you know if this is something that can't be sorted relatively quick?

If they taking people's money... I guess they will need some Bonds lodged with CAR. Tgat would mean getting a bank to back up same ... meaning you will need guarantees given... meaning backers putting assets/ property up as collateral.

As Richard Branson always said when asked 'how do u become a Millionaire' and the reply was start out a Billionaire and buy an airline!!!

gawd... this is a silly money business. Very easy to lose you shirt

CelticRambler · 27-06-2017 12:32am

Deiseen wrote: »

You seem to know a bit more than most. Do you know if this is something that can't be sorted relatively quick?

It's like any regulatory requirement: as long as you have all your documentation in order - and an insurance bond in place - then it's fairly straightforward.

But the fact that they didn't seem to know that they needed a TOL is strange, as it's one of the first things anyone embarking on this kind of project learns.

Contrary to what's frequently said on any of these threads, there's a great advantage to these kind of split operations, with the commercial side kept separate to the AOC. It keeps all the financial risk associated with operating the business away from the costs of maintaining and operating the aircraft. We'd have a much healthier regional airline network in Europe if ticket selling "virtual" airlines were encouraged, rather than obstructed (and constantly criticised on the internet!

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TheQuietFella · 27-06-2017 3:17pm

CelticRambler wrote: »

It's like any regulatory requirement: as long as you have all your documentation in order - and an insurance bond in place - then it's fairly straightforward.

But the fact that they didn't seem to know that they needed a TOL is strange, as it's one of the first things anyone embarking on this kind of project learns.

Contrary to what's frequently said on any of these threads, there's a great advantage to these kind of split operations, with the commercial side kept separate to the AOC. It keeps all the financial risk associated with operating the business away from the costs of maintaining and operating the aircraft. We'd have a much healthier regional airline network in Europe if ticket selling "virtual" airlines were encouraged, rather than obstructed (and constantly criticised on the internet! )

I then would ask who is running the show out there and why were they not aware of all necessities prior to the re-launch?
After this I would sack them as it explains thoroughly the reasons for our governments reluctance to invest in the future of Waterford Airport!

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