Manager/Owner stealing from charity box

drunkymonkey

Just saw the most blatant act of indecency I've ever seen.

Was in grabbing lunch for the workmates and myself in a fairly popular fast food place (that I'm not going to name) in the county I live in.

The whole time I was in there the server was apologizing to the customers that they had no change in the till to give them so they were rounding up when giving the change back.

While i was at the side of the counter waiting for the food to be brought out after paying, the owner/manager comes in and the server mutters to him that they had no change in the tills. He looks around puzzled, pats his empty pockets and then proceeds to open up the Charity tub on the counter in plain sight of the three customers queuing and myself.

Now you would think maybe he's going to go back later and replace the money he took but he was dumping it into the till without even counting what was going in.

I was just going to pipe up & say something, but the customer queuing at the counter got there before me. His excuse was that he will put it back.

It will make me think twice about throwing a few coins into the charity box next time.

Fromthetrees

Stab him in the furtha fooking head innit, blap blap, sum1 looks at me blap blap blap.:mad:

Shane-KornSpace

just as bad as the people who put like 10 cent in the charity sweet boxes when it clearly says €2.
scum.

Duggy747

Ya should've pulled a Michael Douglas in the fast food joint.

kowloon

Could he not have exchange money from the till for the equivalent change on front of the customer? Even then the charity box should be a no go area.

SteelyDanJalapeno

Thinly veiled I had lunch and regularly put money in charity boxes thread.

Be careful OP you'll get a nose bleed up there.

uch

Find out the charity and Report him to them

kingtut

Name and Shame ! :mad:

What was the name of the place OP so I can make sure never to spend a penny (pun not intended) there.

uberalles

Fromthetrees wrote: »

Stab him in the furtha fooking head innit, blap blap, sum1 looks at me blap blap blap.:mad:

+1

{:-)

drunkymonkey

uch wrote: »

Find out the charity and Report him to them

That would be a good idea if i did see the charity name, I'll be sure to pop in next time I'm passing and have a peep..... right after i hop his head off the counter.

Birneybau

TiltedBrain wrote: »

Thinly veiled I had lunch and regularly put money in charity boxes thread.

Be careful OP you'll get a nose bleed up there.

This post should fcuk off.

Attacking the post, not the poster.

drunkymonkey

Birneybau wrote: »

This post should fcuk off.

Attacking the post, not the poster.

Trolls go away quicker if you don't feed them.

SteelyDanJalapeno

Birneybau wrote: »

This post should fcuk off.

Attacking the post, not the poster.

drunkymonkey wrote: »

Trolls go away quicker if you don't feed them.

Guys!

This is after hours right?! get cucumber

SafeSurfer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9teL4_AFzdw

im invisible

i'm sure when the manager is cashing up, whatever money the till is over, will go in the charity box... :pac:

CrazyRabbit

Does this manager/owner also have part time job as a banker?

SEPT 23 1989

If if wasn't for the owner,the shop would not exist and there would be no place to put the charity box

Where To

I don't see the problem.


Then again, I don't believe in charity.

phasers

to be fair he couldn't magic up change from thin air and you don't actually know that he won't replace it.

drunkymonkey

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

If if wasn't for the owner,the shop would not exist and there would be no place to put the charity box

Doesn't mean they have to steal from it, and so blatantly obvious to the customers too.

So you're saying all owners should steal from the poor box to keep their till afloat? The customers put that change in the charity box for a reason and i doubt they will put it in there if the charity was called ' Straight into my till Fund'

drunkymonkey

phasers wrote: »

to be fair he couldn't magic up change from thin air and you don't actually know that he won't replace it.

I agree with that he couldnt pull it out of the air but the charity box is the last place you should go! He should have gone to change his own personal money first.

He dumped the change in , didn't even glance to guess how much he would need to replace!

mitosis

As has been pointed out, he can correct it after the till is balanced. He took an executive decision and in a manner that did not delay customers while he counted the pennies. It's not an ideal solution, but so long as he reimburses what the heck do you care.

ChubbyHubby

TiltedBrain wrote: »

Thinly veiled ....

Jesus christ. Why is this nonsense and thank whoring tolerated in after hours?

SEPT 23 1989

drunkymonkey wrote: »

Doesn't mean they have to steal from it, and so blatantly obvious to the customers too.

So you're saying all owners should steal from the poor box to keep their till afloat? The customers put that change in the charity box for a reason and i doubt they will put it in there if the charity was called ' Straight into my till Fund'

The owner of the shop is doing the charity a big favour letting them put their begging bowl in his establishment

Let him have a few cent when the greasy till is a few coppers shy

1ZRed

The exact reason why I never throw a few euro into those boxes, because you don't have a clue into which pocket it ends up going and how much of that €10 or whatever makes it to it's indented destination.

Those collections are fine and I'll give what I can, and if the charity is reputable and worthwhile to me I'll consider something like these charity boxes, but I'd rather be more hands on and volunteer as my form of charity.

ScouseMouse

He's asking for trouble doing it in that way, but its not unusual.

I empty out my poor box regularly and when the priest arrives, he is delighted to find notes in it. It saves him hassle as well.

He's a fecking ejit doing it so openly as people can and will think he is robbing it.

HAHAH, reminds me of the time I opened it in front of a cashier and asked her to count it with me. She was shocked,

"WHAT ARE YOU DOING? I'M NOT TOUCHING THAT":mad:

Come on and help, I have a motorike to pay for, I said.;)

When she saw me putting in notes, she was mortified:D

"I cannot believe you thought I was stealing from a poor box.....:D:D"

chasm

drunkymonkey wrote: »

The whole time I was in there the server was apologizing to the customers that they had no change in the till to give them so they were rounding up when giving the change back.

mitosis wrote: »

As has been pointed out, he can correct it after the till is balanced. He took an executive decision and in a manner that did not delay customers while he counted the pennies. It's not an ideal solution, but so long as he reimburses what the heck do you care.

But when the till is balanced will they take into account that they rounded up change for some customers, or does the charity box cover that?

Ficheall

I would have done exactly the same thing in the manager's position and then put back in the money when closing up. I know folks might argue that he didn't count it - but it's fairly easy to estimate, and I'd have no difficulty throwing an extra couple of euro in to a charity box to make sure I covered what I'd taken.
I'd certainly sooner give the extra money to the charity than to the whingy ****e customers evidenced in the OP.

fishy fishy

isn't it lovely that people are so negative that they see what is probably an innocent gesture and turn it around to accuse somebody of doing something that probably never entered their head. Go in with all guns blazing to accuse and attack.

In all the uproar about the person "stealing" from a charity, not one of you thought that the guy might put the overages back into the charity box once he balanced the till. Did ye not get that far in your thought process.

Would ye have thought that he was just doing what he thought was the quickest option to help out a customer. How do you know he didn't count the money going into the till. I assume he didn't just open the till, and throw the money in so it would land all over the place in different compartments. But hey why let reason get in the way of a good story. :o

Hopefully there are still some people that gives people the benefit of the doubt and not automatically assumes that everyone is out to rob people.

shame.


edit: after reading all the posts, I do now see that there are actual people that don't automatically think the worst of people (thank goodness)

connundrum

Duggy747 wrote: »

Ya should've pulled a Michael Douglas in the fast food joint.

Or had a Brad Pitt on the counter.

drunkymonkey

Ficheall wrote: »

I'd certainly sooner give the extra money to the charity than to the whingy ****e customers evidenced in the OP.

Where did i say they whinged? Nobody complained, the server was just apologizing out of courtesy.

endacl

TiltedBrain wrote: »

Thinly veiled I had lunch and regularly put money in charity boxes thread.

Be careful OP you'll get a nose bleed up there.

Don't think so. Who would thinly veil having lunch in a fast food sh1thouse?

fishy fishy

just a quick question for the OP. You say that the person at the till was "rounding up" the change. I assume your change was also "rounded up". Just wondering did you go back to the counter with your "rounded up" change and tell the server to now take back the overage of change he gave you previously once there was proper change in the till. Or did you keep it tight in your little pocket. If so, what would you call that?? :p

Turtyturd

drunkymonkey wrote: »

Just saw the most blatant act of indecency I've ever seen.

Was in grabbing lunch for the workmates and myself in a fairly popular fast food place (that I'm not going to name) in the county I live in.

The whole time I was in there the server was apologizing to the customers that they had no change in the till to give them so they were rounding up when giving the change back.

While i was at the side of the counter waiting for the food to be brought out after paying, the owner/manager comes in and the server mutters to him that they had no change in the tills. He looks around puzzled, pats his empty pockets and then proceeds to open up the Charity tub on the counter in plain sight of the three customers queuing and myself.

Now you would think maybe he's going to go back later and replace the money he took but he was dumping it into the till without even counting what was going in.

I was just going to pipe up & say something, but the customer queuing at the counter got there before me. His excuse was that he will put it back.

It will make me think twice about throwing a few coins into the charity box next time.

This is the real issue here, why the f*ck do shops expect you to take the hit for their lack of decent management.

'Sorry we have no 1 cent coins.' *closes till

'That's cool, just gimme a two cent coin and I will owe you a cent.' *stands there looking dumbfounded*

I'm looking at you Gamestop.

Ficheall

drunkymonkey wrote: »

Where did i say they whinged?

Your OP was a bit of a whinge.

drunkymonkey wrote: »

Nobody complained

You said you were going to say something and that the person in front of you got there before you. I get the impression that you weren't going to compliment them on their resourcefulness.

drunkymonkey

fishy fishy wrote: »

just a quick question for the OP. You say that the person at the till was "rounding up" the change. I assume your change was also "rounded up". Just wondering did you go back to the counter with your "rounded up" change and tell the server to now take back the overage of change he gave you previously once there was proper change in the till. Or did you keep it tight in your little pocket. If so, what would you call that?? :p

I was actually lucky enough to have the exact change this time, after the Jazz weekend i had lots of change.

Death and Taxes

drunkymonkey wrote: »

Just saw the most blatant act of indecency I've ever seen.

Was in grabbing lunch for the workmates and myself in a fairly popular fast food place (that I'm not going to name) in the county I live in.

The whole time I was in there the server was apologizing to the customers that they had no change in the till to give them so they were rounding up when giving the change back.

While i was at the side of the counter waiting for the food to be brought out after paying, the owner/manager comes in and the server mutters to him that they had no change in the tills. He looks around puzzled, pats his empty pockets and then proceeds to open up the Charity tub on the counter in plain sight of the three customers queuing and myself.

Now you would think maybe he's going to go back later and replace the money he took but he was dumping it into the till without even counting what was going in.

I was just going to pipe up & say something, but the customer queuing at the counter got there before me. His excuse was that he will put it back.

It will make me think twice about throwing a few coins into the charity box next time.

Why punish the charity? Surely if you were that incensed you would have walked out and gone elsewhere, and vowed never to eat their again!
Obviously your stomach is overriding your moral outrage!

oppenheimer1

Shane-KornSpace wrote: »

just as bad as the people who put like 10 cent in the charity sweet boxes when it clearly says €2.
scum.

Those charity sweet boxes are a load of rubbish, SFA actually goes to the charity. Its just business masquerading behind charity branding to get people to pay for overpriced sweets.

drunkymonkey

WileyCoyote wrote: »

Why punish the charity? Surely if you were that incensed you would have walked out and gone elsewhere, and vowed never to eat their again!
Obviously your stomach is overriding your moral outrage!

If you read my post properly you would see that I already paid for my food when this happened so I couldn't have simply walked out could I.

And I never said I wasn't giving to charity again, I can choose more reliable sources for it next time where I know that it's going straight to where I want it to go.

drunkymonkey

drunkymonkey wrote: »

While i was at the side of the counter waiting for the food to be brought out after paying, the owner/manager comes in and the server mutters to him that they had no change in the tills. He looks around puzzled, pats his empty pockets and then proceeds to open up the Charity tub on the counter in plain sight of the three customers queuing and myself.

WileyCoyote wrote: »

Why punish the charity? Surely if you were that incensed you would have walked out and gone elsewhere, and vowed never to eat their again!
Obviously your stomach is overriding your moral outrage!

I did you a favour by highlighting where you must have missed.

UCDVet

If you'd be upset to learn that some well-to-do businessman is getting rich off your charity donations - don't donate....

Because that's exactly what is going to happeng. It's a business. You don't think all those chuggers are coming up to you out of the goodness of their hearts, do you? And who do you think employees them? Up at the top, even of the more respectable charities, you'll find very rich business folk who earn loads and loads more money that you do; who do nothing but figure out ways to get people like you to donate to a charity.

But let's be honest - if you really cared about helping X - you wouldn't drop a few coins in after placing your lunch order. If you enjoy donating money/if you feel *good* for giving money, do it. But you aren't a customer. Charities have no obligation to you. They won't use your money as wisely as you would. Even the ones with the best of intentions have overhead. You could do some research, look into X, and do something for that cause on your own, and have full control over how your money is used....but that'd be a lot of work. And who has time?

randylonghorn

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

The owner of the shop is doing the charity a big favour letting them put their begging bowl in his establishment

Let him have a few cent when the greasy till is a few coppers shy

He's doing them a big favour by (according to you at least) allowing him an opportunity to steal?

Wow! The Diseased Celtic Kitten has sure left its mark on this country!

UCDVet wrote: »

....but that'd be a lot of work. And who has time?

And that's exactly why charities have become "professionalised" ... and I agree with you that it's not a positive move.

What in past generations was done on a voluntary basis, someone now has to be paid to do. Because after all, time is money, money is god, and why on earth would people choose to volunteer? :rolleyes:

A_Sober_Paddy

drunkymonkey wrote: »

Just saw the most blatant act of indecency I've ever seen.

Was in grabbing lunch for the workmates and myself in a fairly popular fast food place (that I'm not going to name) in the county I live in.

The whole time I was in there the server was apologizing to the customers that they had no change in the till to give them so they were rounding up when giving the change back.

While i was at the side of the counter waiting for the food to be brought out after paying, the owner/manager comes in and the server mutters to him that they had no change in the tills. He looks around puzzled, pats his empty pockets and then proceeds to open up the Charity tub on the counter in plain sight of the three customers queuing and myself.

Now you would think maybe he's going to go back later and replace the money he took but he was dumping it into the till without even counting what was going in.

I was just going to pipe up & say something, but the customer queuing at the counter got there before me. His excuse was that he will put it back.

It will make me think twice about throwing a few coins into the charity box next time.

In a place I used to work, the charity box was counted by the owner, he used the change and lodged a cheque for the total amount into the charities bank account...It was a charity which had an official partnership with the shop and that was deemed to be the safest/best way for the charity to collect the money and also not be stuck with a whole lot of coins

Intensive Care Bear

A few months ago i was in Mcdonalds ordering some food, i payed and as i walked away the woman behind the counter shouted at me to come back to the counter. I came back and she had a £10 note that was on the counter, she said it was mine but i was sure it wasn't and been the honest person that i am i decided we should put it in the charity box. She didn't seem to happy about that but i just popped it in and said goodbye. Anyway i walk out the door and into the shop next door open my wallet and realised it was my tenner, ha ha i was sickened.

The next day i was walking by and i decided to pop in and see if it was still there, i wasn't go to ask for it back (i'm not Larry David) i just had a feeling it would be robbed. Sure enough it was gone, the small pile of 2p's were still there so someone just took the tenner. Scumbags.

CRM Ireland

I cant stand charities. I dont know why I feel this way, but I feel really uncomfortable when I say no to them when they are at my car window at a traffic light. I feel guilty for not wanting to give my money to some random cause. A few times, its just been people with a bucket and a hi-vis vest on, no idea what charity they were representing, on pretending to represent.

I also dont understand why the Fire Brigade are out a lot doing it. I see them in Drogheda from time to time, at the lights, asking for money. Im sure we already pay for the fire service, so why do they need donations?

Its got to the point that I feel angry when I see them, and I dont want to feel angry. I also know of a few collectors going around for Troica, or whatever that famous Irish charity is called, and they are scamming it all the time. One came to work for me once and he was telling me some of the things they used to get up to. Id never give any money to any of them, and thats a real shame because Im sure there are loads of genuine good causes out there, but they are usually, almost certainly always, headed by filthy rich clowns taking advantage of gullible mugs who feel pressured into paying out.

What about the ones in town who ask if you want to donate for say "poor children" and when I say "no thanks" they retort with "You dont want to help the poor children?" to try and make me feel guilty. They disgust me and every time they try and embarrass me now, I am well prepared to completely embarrass them with a public showing up. I feel so annoyed by them, and prepare myself for them when I see them about to interrupt me on my business, that I almost feel disappointed when one of them is decent enough and accepts my initial "no thanks" with a "no problem, have a nice day".

We don't openly accept or allow beggars on the street, people who probably really desperately need immediate assistance, yet we are permitting professional begging on an epic scale.

Another thing which I dont like, is when kids try and pack my bags for me in a supermarket. Of course they want you to donate to whatever it is they represent, but I really dont want to give my money to anyone when under pressure like that. However I feel embarrassed to say no to a kid as its a bit scabby, so I give my girlfriend the money and let her pay and she has no problem saying no to them. I know that might sound petty, but why should I be bothered in an actual shop when Im just trying to do my shopping? Its put me off going to Dunnes.

Ive just realised what a miserable git I am....

homeless student

Turtyturd wrote: »

This is the real issue here, why the f*ck do shops expect you to take the hit for their lack of decent management.

'Sorry we have no 1 cent coins.' *closes till

'That's cool, just gimme a two cent coin and I will owe you a cent.' *stands there looking dumbfounded*

I'm looking at you Gamestop.

im looking at you easons, o connel st
bought something there l8ly, change was 1cent, I waited for it because I knew yer one serving me didnt wanna give it to me, she gave me the receipt, which said i had got my 1 cent change, which I hadnt, then she gave me a look like I was scum lol

fishy fishy

drunkymonkey wrote: »

I was actually lucky enough to have the exact change this time, after the Jazz weekend i had lots of change.

you could have stepped up to the counter and got rid of all your "change" to help them out - did you do that? Wouldn't that have been a much more positive experience for you, rather than wasting your energy trying to think you know what the manager was thinking ?

:rolleyes:

drunkymonkey

fishy fishy wrote: »

you could have stepped up to the counter and got rid of all your "change" to help them out - did you do that? Wouldn't that have been a much more positive experience for you, rather than wasting your energy trying to think you know what the manager was thinking ?

:rolleyes:

Some people just love to complain, whatever the topic!

And to reciprocate your favourite emoticon :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Now go away and stop fishing.

Capt'n Midnight

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

If if wasn't for the owner,the shop would not exist and there would be no place to put the charity box

That argument would make sense if the charity got the money.

The charity will loose out on money in other shops because people will think they have already contributed.

fishy fishy

drunkymonkey wrote: »

Some people just love to complain, whatever the topic!

And to reciprocate your favourite emoticon :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Now go away and stop fishing.

they do say that the "faults" you find in someone else are actually subconsciously your OWN faults. I refer you to the author of this thread. :rolleyes::D

gallag

Lots of shops do this. Take out change and put notes back. If this guy had bad motives he would not do it infrount of customers.