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Can straight men recognise a good looking guy?

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    What WB said. Personally I can tell easy enough when it's obvious, but would be less accurate on men women might find attractive where it's more vague.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Reku


    Considering the amount of blokes I'd consider troll-like in aspect who women seem to fall all over I think it's safe to say I fail at this.:o


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,863 ✭✭✭RobAMerc


    I can tell if I think a lad is good looking or not.

    However whether or not women will find him attractive or not is totally beyond me as women seem to go for something no one can put their finger on. I hate to sound inflammatory about this but being in the public eye / having cash / being the chosen cool one in the group seems to have a huge baring on mens attractiveness to women.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,196 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    I think lads that claim they can never tell if another man is good-looking are generally just a bit homophobic tbh.

    Since attraction isn't based purely on looks (for either sex) however, we can often be wrong about which men many women would find attractive. Would Patrick Swayze have been considered anywhere near as attractive as he was if he hadn't played the dancer in Dirty Dancing? I really don't think so. If that moron on X Factor at the moment, Rylan wasn't such a simpering twit would women find him attractive? I think they would tbh.

    Reversing the roles: I can see that Rosanna Davison is good looking but I wouldn't be attracted to her in the least and know plenty of guys that would think the same. So why should it surprise me if a man that I can see is good looking wouldn't be considered attractive by many women?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,820 ✭✭✭floggg


    seachto7 wrote: »

    Anyhow, back on topic. I wouldn't consider Daniel Craig good looking. Is he? Yeah, he is buff, but from the neck up, would he be considered good looking?

    Oh god yes! It's the eyes that do it for me. Which is weird because I normally go for the more superficial stuff like chest/body (thankfully the bathing suit scene confirmed he's got that too). I could get lost in those eyes.

    Anyway, I have a straight friend who swears he couldn't pick the good looking one from brad Pitt and Peter crouch except by reputation. He even claimed he hadn't realised Pete crouch was considered ugly until I used him as an example.

    Even Peter crouch's mother realises he's ugly.

    My mate is full of it. And insecure or hiding something.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 943 ✭✭✭Real Life


    I would say most straight men can recognise whether a man is good looking or not. i know i certainly can. i would think most men that say they cant are just uncomfortable saying it. but then i know of lads who wouldnt have a clue, the same kind of lads that dont know how to dress themselves.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    Sure, at the extreme end of the scale. George Clooney, Brad Pitt are good looking guys. I've no idea if Tom Hanks or Matt Damon would be considered good looking if they were the postman.
    That said when I'm physically attracted to a woman - sometimes she's a little too petite and roundy of arse to be a supermodel.....sorry I drifted away there. So I'd imagine the same applies to girls/gay lads looking at guys.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Well I'm biased here, but if I play it the other way, a hot girl would definitely catch my attention, and I'd notice her as being very attractive. Guys are just the same, though probably not as taken aback, but know when a guy is good looking, they just won't admit it openly for fear that would fuck up how straight they appeared.

    Just because you're one way or the other doesn't make you blind to both.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 21,730 Mod ✭✭✭✭entropi


    Recognising a good looking man, is not the same as recognising an attractive man. Completely different type of man involved there.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 8,490 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fluorescence


    floggg wrote: »
    Even Peter crouch's mother realises he's ugly.

    Peter Crouch is not ugly. He grimaces a lot but he's far from an uggo.

    I think it depends more on the guy than sexuality, tbh. Some people (men and women) just aren't very observant. If the attractiveness-level of people around them isn't something they care about, then they won't really notice a particularly good looking man unless he's pointed out especially.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 526 ✭✭✭OnTheCouch


    Peter Crouch is not ugly. He grimaces a lot but he's far from an uggo.

    I think it depends more on the guy than sexuality, tbh. Some people (men and women) just aren't very observant. If the attractiveness-level of people around them isn't something they care about, then they won't really notice a particularly good looking man unless he's pointed out especially.

    Yeah I always thought Peter Crouch was pretty normal looking, save for his extreme height of course.

    Even in 2012 there are an awful lot of men who are worried they will be portrayed as homosexual should they point out the attractiveness of other men. Exceptions apply to icons who are almost more well known for their looks than anything else, eg Pitt, Gosling, Clooney.

    In addition, women do tend to be dreadful at judging other females, but they are so far off the mark sometimes that I suspect it's a ploy for the man then to say 'that's ridiculous' which in turn boosts the woman's own self-confidence compared to that lady.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭seachto7


    Men who get uncomfortable talking about another good looking man, are maybe not fully comfortable with themselves, or their sexuality? ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,076 ✭✭✭Eathrin


    I saw a good looking guy today.
    That said, unless they're exceptionally good looking I wouldn't really notice.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,508 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    I think I would be able to tell the difference between a good looking guy and someone who isn't.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    I don't think heterosexual men are particularly good at telling whether another man is attractive. Similarly. I don't think women are much good in the corresponding situation.

    For example, I've heard loads of women say that Angelina Jolie is hot. I don't, I think she has very masculine features (ignoring the whole skeletor thing) but I think this is why females tend to think she is so good looking, as they find masculine features attractive.

    So aesthetically, can we tell if someone is objectively good-looking? Probably, but can we tell whether another man will be a attractive? Maybe not. I've been mystified by some of the men woman have told me are attractive. This guy is a prime example , I would never in a million years think he would be attractive (maybe there's hope for us all....)


  • Registered Users Posts: 55,161 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    --Kaiser-- wrote: »
    I don't think heterosexual men are particularly good at telling whether another man is attractive. Similarly. I don't think women are much good in the corresponding situation.

    For example, I've heard loads of women say that Angelina Jolie is hot. I don't, I think she has very masculine features (ignoring the whole skeletor thing) but I think this is why females tend to think she is so good looking, as they find masculine features attractive.

    So aesthetically, can we tell if someone is objectively good-looking? Probably, but can we tell whether another man will be a attractive? Maybe not. I've been mystified by some of the men woman have told me are attractive. This guy is a prime example , I would never in a million years think he would be attractive (maybe there's hope for us all....)

    But that is all down to taste. I know women who really find Ryan Tubridy attractive. Me: I wouldn't say he was. He's not a minger, but he's not what I would call a good looking fellow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    Another guy who puzzles me is Daniel Craig.

    When he got the nod for James Bond, my first response is who? then wtf?

    He looks less than average to me...he doesn't have eyebrows and it looks like somebody took a shovel to his face a couple of times ffs

    Well dressed in the Bond movies and in real life, well built but how is he good looking?

    daniel-craig-2.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,075 ✭✭✭Rasmus


    Sometimes they can, but I don't think they have very good taste. They often miss nuances that can make someone attractive if they aren't traditionally 'hot'.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,076 ✭✭✭Eathrin


    Hazys wrote: »
    Another guy who puzzles me is Daniel Craig.

    When he got the nod for James Bond, my first response is who? then wtf?

    He looks less than average to me...he doesn't have eyebrows and it looks like somebody took a shovel to his face a couple of times ffs

    Well dressed in the Bond movies and in real life, well built but how is he good looking?

    daniel-craig-2.jpg

    I haven't seen any of his movies.
    Is he really that bad looking at all times:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭Festy


    The only reason Craig looks so good in the movies is because of makeup.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Eathrin wrote: »
    I haven't seen any of his movies.
    Is he really that bad looking at all times:eek:

    You've never seen Casino Royale onwards?!


  • Registered Users Posts: 964 ✭✭✭riveratom


    I'm as hetero as you can get, but anyone who says Daniel Craig is average looking is having a larf.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,076 ✭✭✭Eathrin


    1ZRed wrote: »
    You've never seen Casino Royale onwards?!

    Weren't they poorly rated anyway?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 787 ✭✭✭Emeraldy Pebbles


    --Kaiser-- wrote: »
    This guy is a prime example , I would never in a million years think he would be attractive (maybe there's hope for us all....)

    He's not. Yuck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Eathrin wrote: »
    Weren't they poorly rated anyway?

    The opposite I'd say. From then on out it was a reboot on the movie series. Quantum of Solace is mixed but they're still very well produced.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,028 ✭✭✭✭--LOS--


    I think anyone can recognise traditionally good-looking people and anything else is personal taste


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    anything A cemetrical an remotely chiselled...
    is good looking how ever confidence delivers it...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Not sure you'd call John Cusack good looking. Well I suppose he is but you'd wouldn't notice him down your local Tesco

    But dammit, every women seems to love him

    He's got something about him but I don't know what it is

    John_Cusack.jpg-6860.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,508 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Had a look a the "Who makes you drool" thread in TLL to see what kind of fella the women of Ireland class as a good looking guy and it generally seems to be reasonably well built lads who do a good bit of work in the gym.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,708 ✭✭✭Curly Judge


    I'm straight!
    Yet all my life I've loved Elvis Presley.
    In his hayday he was the nearest thing to a Greek God the twentieth century had produced.
    Did I feel embarressed? Not a bit of it!
    I loved the man.
    I would like to have been able to talk to him
    I would like to have been able to live with him.
    I would like to have been his friend and helped him in his hours of need.
    But, I would never have wanted to go to bed with him.
    I still don't see any contadiction in this explanation of brotherly love.
    Others may disagree?


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