Buses and Cycling (Split from "Dublin bus driver here, ask questions")

Qualitymark

rp wrote: »

You're OK as of 1st October this year - bicycles now *can* use the contraflow bus lanes, too.

Though it names a specific numbered sign, which appears to show a bus and a bicycle. There's no bicycle shown on the Stephen's Green contraflow, only a bus. Is this a different sign, making the contraflow lane bus-only? Or not?

mrbike

Qualitymark wrote: »

Though it names a specific numbered sign, which appears to show a bus and a bicycle. There's no bicycle shown on the Stephen's Green contraflow, only a bus. Is this a different sign, making the contraflow lane bus-only? Or not?

The section referring to contra-flow bus lanes is here:

Bus Lanes

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(b) A contra-flow bus lane shall be indicated by means of traffic sign number RUS 030 used in association with traffic sign number RRM 024.

(2) A person shall not enter a bus lane with a vehicle other than a large public service vehicle or a pedal cycle during the period of operation of the bus lane indicated on an information plate.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2012/en/si/0332.html

Bikes have been specifically included.

BostonB

Hurrah. Made no sense having to do a huge loop to avoid contra-flow bus lanes on my route.

What the Heck are those signs?

mrbike

BostonB wrote: »

Hurrah. Made no sense having to do a huge loop to avoid contra-flow bus lanes on my route.

What the Heck are those signs?

They are listed here :

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1997/en/si/0181.html

RUS 030 is the contra-flow sign (there is no picture of a bike) http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/images/s60187647CF995.jpg

RRM 024 is the road marking Lana Bus. http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/images/si14ba59647cf99a.jpg

BostonB

Cheers thanks for that.

Tombo2001

A Question to no-one in particular......

The flow of traffic in places like Phibsboro, Northstrand, Rathmines Road, Harolds Cross......the commuter funnels......is typically (if its moving) at about 30k or 40k an hour.

My question for this.....

Is the 'margin for error' for a 40ft bus driving at this speed the same as it is for a 7ft car.

As a cyclist, I always feel a bit more nervous when a bus swishes past me at this speed. THat is to say, if something happened in front of the bus it would take it longer to stop......also, it couldnt swerve as easily as a car, to avoid something.

mrbike

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Is the 'margin for error' for a 40ft bus driving at this speed the same as it is for a 7ft car.

I know the section of road in Phibsobro very well. The bus lane is far too narrow to accommodate a car overtaking a cyclist, let alone a bus. If a bus or taxi overtakes you at speed in this lane (without moving to the right into the other lane) then it is dangerous overtaking.

I just 'take the lane'. I ride a few feet from the kerb (as recommended), and this leaves no room for a dangerous overtaking maneuver. If you get beeped at, just ignore it. It's recommended and perfectly legal.

There's some more information here : http://dublincycling.com/node/365

ThisRegard

Hot topic at the moment on Live Line, first caller seems to be an amalgamation of all the stupid things ever said about cyclists in the history of boards.ie.

Qualitymark

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