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Using N is being different for difference's sake. Should use R the same as NI.
"R" makes sense in other countries where the driver is restricted on speed, carrying passengers or the times they can travel alone.
I don't think that's being proposed here though.
Instead it's an alert to other motorists that there is a less experienced driver in their midst - a newbie if you like (or, as gaeilge, núb?
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Just because you have sold a few cars to newly qualified drivers and they were lacking the cop as you put it does not mean every young newly qualified driver is the same you can't just generalise your statement. As for experience I find that i seem to be in the minority of people who can use roundabouts proberly and drive on the motorways correctly. I drive 600km per week half on motorways and have no difficulty with my lack of experience. But then I was thought how to drive correctly by 2 parent who are both driving 25 years and a very good driving instructor. I am not the only one most newly qualified drivers are good drivers. Also did you ever think maybe they just weren't used to your car and were maybe nervous the fact they didnt own the car.
Perhaps you are in the minority re roundabouts and motorways for other reasons than you think...!
Of course people test driving cars are unused to my cars, but my job is, above all else, to make sure we return from the test drive in one piece.
But you're missing the point, IMO. I think an N or R, is a good thing for all road users and can see no down side.
My 18 year old is currently getting lessons at maynooth Leinster driving campus. Once she's finished them, she'll do the test and hopefully pass. She will drive home fully qualified. I would like other road users to give her the benefit of the doubt etc if she hasn't the full experienced ability of, say, you with your 600 km per week. What harm is it if she has N stickers for 2 years afterwards?
The only reason for negativity is when people see it as a stigma, but if everyone goes through it there should be no stigma.0 -
Just because you have sold a few cars to newly qualified drivers and they were lacking the cop as you put it does not mean every young newly qualified driver is the same you can't just generalise your statement. As for experience I find that i seem to be in the minority of people who can use roundabouts proberly and drive on the motorways correctly. I drive 600km per week half on motorways and have no difficulty with my lack of experience. But then I was thought how to drive correctly by 2 parent who are both driving 25 years and a very good driving instructor. I am not the only one most newly qualified drivers are good drivers. Also did you ever think maybe they just weren't used to your car and were maybe nervous the fact they didnt own the car.
Perhaps you are in the minority re roundabouts and motorways for other reasons than you think...!
Of course people test driving cars are unused to my cars, but my job is, above all else, to make sure we return from the test drive in one piece.
But you're missing the point, IMO. I think an N or R, is a good thing for all road users and can see no down side.
My 18 year old is currently getting lessons at maynooth Leinster driving campus. Once she's finished them, she'll do the test and hopefully pass. She will drive home fully qualified. I would like other road users to give her the benefit of the doubt etc if she hasn't the full experienced ability of, say, you with your 600 km per week. What harm is it if she has N stickers for 2 years afterwards?
The only reason for negativity is when people see it as a stigma, but if everyone goes through it there should be no stigma.0 -
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"R" makes sense in other countries where the driver is restricted on speed, carrying passengers or the times they can travel alone.
I don't think that's being proposed here though.
Instead it's an alert to other motorists that there is a less experienced driver in their midst - a newbie if you like (or, as gaeilge, núb?)
They are restricted - in how much they can drink and how often they can 'get away' with getting caught breaking the law, and I suspect more in future.
This really is just being different for no good reason.
I expect to find out that Noel Brett's cousins uncle's daughter's boyfriend owns the plant that'll make the N plates; rather than just letting us buy the reversible N/R plates that I suspect every Tesco and Halfords already stocks. :pac:0 -
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I can understand what you mean and really the plate would not bother me or the lower alcohol limit ( I don't drink anyway). But I don't know about the points 6 points just because you learns rely qualified driver it should just be 12 points for everyone the way it is now. also I don't know what you mean by the first line are you saying I'm using roundabouts wrong. I was saying that other road users don't use indicators on roundabouts. As said above the plate itself isn't going the make boy racers drive any slower and unfortunately its them who account for must young drivers in road accidents. And the rest of us young drivers who just want to drive safely and not cause accidents seem to suffer through high insurance etc.Perhaps you are in the minority re roundabouts and motorways for other reasons than you think...!
Of course people test driving cars are unused to my cars, but my job is, above all else, to make sure we return from the test drive in one piece.
But you're missing the point, IMO. I think an N or R, is a good thing for all road users and can see no down side.
My 18 year old is currently getting lessons at maynooth Leinster driving campus. Once she's finished them, she'll do the test and hopefully pass. She will drive home fully qualified. I would like other road users to give her the benefit of the doubt etc if she hasn't the full experienced ability of, say, you with your 600 km per week. What harm is it if she has N stickers for 2 years afterwards?
The only reason for negativity is when people see it as a stigma, but if everyone goes through it there should be no stigma.0 -
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