12 weeks in Jail for offensive web posts about poor April Jones

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Wow. This is unreal. 3 months in jail for what?

It's an idiotic thing to joke about a child like that, but they sent him to jail for that?

Posts like this are hilarious;

I have young kids too, and you can be sure they'll never post something as bad online

This is laughable Mountainsandh, how exactly do you know what your kids will and will not do?

saintsaltynuts

Although i don't condone jokes about this little girl but if something like this happens and somebody says something sick about it it's like they get the blame.Alot of angry people out there have to vent their anger somewhere so they do it towards some eejit who is probably too thick to even think about what he was doing.

BASHIR

1984 springs to mind to be honest. We'll be afraid to say anything in case it might offend someone. As much as I think the joke is disgusting, how in hell is this a criminal offence.

Madam_X

Until the British state imprisons people for criticising the government/appearing to be critical of the government; spies on people in their homes; forbids any discussion/criticism of same, 1984 comparisons are comparing like with unlike.

A bit too RTDH to be making such statements.

Icepick

Even if it was a crime, this is just a waste of taxpayers' money. Fines and/or community service would be much more appropriate.

dirtyden

No sympathy for him.

Disgusting thing to do.

If racism online is a crime (incitement to hatred or whatever they call it) I dont see why something like this should not be.

BASHIR

Madam_X wrote: »

Until the British state imprisons people for criticising the government/appearing to be critical of the government; spies on people in their homes; forbids any discussion/criticism of same, 1984 comparisons are comparing like with unlike.

A bit too RTDH to be making such statements.

I never compared it, I said it sprang to my mind. Also I doubt he was smart enough to have his profile private but if it were then I would argue against your second point. Plus I dont know what RTDH is cant comment on that.

Allyall

dirtyden wrote: »

No sympathy for him.

Disgusting thing to do.

If racism online is a crime (incitement to hatred or whatever they call it) I dont see why something like this should not be.

Sympathy for him is irrelevant. He posted a joke (Few jokes) online, and is in prison.

:eek:

Run_to_da_hills

Today you will get arrested for a sick joke.

Tomorrow you will arrested for daring to suggest 7/7 was an inside job.

True sign of the up and coming fascist police state.

Allyall

UK "Freedom of Speech"

The UK is known around the world for its respect for and tolerance of free speech. Although free speech has long been recognised as a common law right in Britain, it also has a statutory basis in Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights (the "Convention"), which has been incorporated into UK law by the Human Rights Act 1998.

In fact, Article 10 of the Convention goes beyond free "speech" and guarantees freedom of "expression," which includes not only the spoken word, but written material, images and other published or broadcast material.

When, however, you begin to consider the possible range of expression --including, say, hate speech that incites violence -- it becomes apparent that even a tolerant society has to put some limits on freedom of expression. Therefore, much of the law relating to free speech is concerned with trying to strike the right balance between freedom of expression and the use (or abuse) of that freedom in a way that harms society.

Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights itself recognises the need for some limits on free expression. It provides, however, that limits can only be imposed in order to achieve certain specified aims, and only in so far as is necessary to achieve those aims. The Convention lists several permitted reasons for limiting free speech, including national security, the protection of health or morals, and protection of peoples' rights and reputations.

In my opinion, the people that incited hate speech that incites violence, are the ones that decided to get a Posse together, and call around to his house.

Should they not be arrested also??
If i was locked up "For my own safety", because 50 nutjobs had got together to call around to my house, i would want, at the very least, the "leaders" or Organisers arrested also. - As a matter of fact, I'd demand it.

Probably 5,000 or more people read his pages of sick jokes, and 50 or so, got together to beat him.. How the fúck does it make sense, that he's the one arrested?

Happyman42

steve9859 wrote: »

IMO that doesnt mean that you dont try, and just wash your hands of it. Personally I think the UK authorities are doing a decent job of sending a message about what is acceptable. When explaining to your kids what they shouldn't be posting on-line, it's a hell of a lot easier when you're able to point to someone who is in a prison cell for what they did

If they (your kids) don't heed your message will you clapping the Gardai on the back as they haul your son/daughter off to jail?

dirtyden

Allyall wrote: »

Sympathy for him is irrelevant. He posted a joke (Few jokes) online, and is in prison.

:eek:

I have to agree with your opinion I guess if I was to reflect on what it actually means. Jailing him is probably not a good idea. And it does indeed open a can of worms and set a precedent. There is a lot of offensive stuff out there that people could start reporting.

Still though, I find this kind of stuff obnoxious, especially timing of it, so no sympathy in this particular case.

El Weirdo

BASHIR wrote: »

Plus I dont know what RTDH is cant comment on that.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Today you will get arrested for a sick joke.

Tomorrow you will arrested for daring to suggest 7/7 was an inside job.

True sign of the up and coming fascist police state.

Right on cue.

juan.kerr

An unfortunate situation for all concerned.

dlofnep

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Today you will get arrested for a sick joke.

Tomorrow you will arrested for daring to suggest 7/7 was an inside job.

True sign of the up and coming fascist police state.

Hopefully they'll lock you up first, so we don't have to read your insane posts anymore. That is of course, if the Lizard people don't get you first.

AnonoBoy

dirtyden wrote: »

If racism online is a crime (incitement to hatred or whatever they call it) I dont see why something like this should not be.

There's a difference between racism and incitement to hatred.

BASHIR

Madam_X wrote: »

Until the British state imprisons people for criticising the government/appearing to be critical of the government; spies on people in their homes; forbids any discussion/criticism of same, 1984 comparisons are comparing like with unlike.

A bit too RTDH to be making such statements.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Today you will get arrested for a sick joke.

Tomorrow you will arrested for daring to suggest 7/7 was an inside job.

True sign of the up and coming fascist police state.

El Weirdo wrote: »

Right on cue.

Ah, Penny drops.

Im offended by your statements and so is my 50 strong mob.
See you in court :pac:

The guy was an ignorant idiot, but yobs can do serious GBH to an elderly person and not see jail at all.

RossyG

saiint wrote: »

but lets hope he gets butt f*cked before he gets out

So you see rape as a just punishment for making sick jokes?

Does that go for women, too, or just men?

Damathon111

I'm worried Ireland will become like this. England is becoming a fascist country even though it's the liberals who are doing this which is very ironic. You can't criticize Islam in England without getting a slap on the wrist. Not to mention they've banned Michael Savage and a Dutch M.P. for criticizing Islam. I bet they wouldn't ban those guys if they criticized Christianity.

Our free speech is being taken from us even though religions are a lifestyle choice and not something permanent like skin colour. It's sickening.

Helix

saiint wrote: »

but lets hope he gets butt f*cked before he gets out

that post right there would see you get 12 weeks in jail in the uk for the very same reasons the guy you're posting about got 12 weeks in jail

Wee Willy Harris

i saw one guy post in the thread i dared not visit often '5yo goes missing in wales' that it if she ended up being sold off; she'd be 'loved' regardless and i just thought "what does he mean, who is he... could be a paedophile having a gloat" maybe like long term member 'pdfile' but eh; could be a joke so what eh.. but its just the anonymous nature of it really.. the problem i have is if its that comedian up on stage, his fans know what to expect its the precise opposite of hiding behind something as a suspicious, undetermined anomnity.

i understand the internet may be a haven for repressed paedophiles but I believe we should be setting a good example... and maybe a touch of class might creep in because this is all a bit too savage for me, and i certainly don't want a scenario where trying to set a good example draws the ire of the powers that be and bans happen for that, instead because then we really would be on the fast track to hell.

i dont know whats happening with the mods here, may be some old lurking deadwood over the best part of a decade and counting is preventing the newer, more interactive ones from setting a better example as the more established authority? There can be a murky atmosphere where practical gimps on chains and probable pdfiles post nonsense, for years yet sensible folk or bleeding hearts may get clipped off.. and not for drawing the ire of the public but seemingly for a mods personal grievance, i've also coined the phrase the modgelene laundry for a reason so work on it - the children shouldn't have to suffer nor feel repressed so bit of personality, bit of interaction bit of heart would suffice so lets all lay a better example. that is all

Fratton Fred

Damathon111 wrote: »

I'm worried Ireland will become like this. England is becoming a fascist country even though it's the liberals who are doing this which is very ironic. You can't criticize Islam in England without getting a slap on the wrist. Not to mention they've banned Michael Savage and a Dutch M.P. for criticizing Islam. I bet they wouldn't ban those guys if they criticized Christianity.

Our free speech is being taken from us even though religions are a lifestyle choice and not something permanent like skin colour. It's sickening.

Those two people weren't just criticising Islam, they were preaching hate islamophobic bile.

Incidentally, the UK has also banned Islamic preachers for preaching hate as well, which is often overlooked by the right wing.

This guy got the max sentence he could from an over sensitive magistrate. It will be appealed in two weeks, the sentence dropped to two weeks and he will be home, having served a painful lesson.

The sentence is ridiculously ott, but its difficult to have any sympathy for the guy.

General General

Wee Willy Harris wrote: »

i saw one guy post in the thread i dared not visit often '5yo goes missing in wales' that it if she ended up being sold off; she'd be 'loved' regardless and i just thought "what does he mean, who is he... could be a paedophile having a gloat" maybe like long term member 'pdfile' but eh; could be a joke so what eh.. but its just the anonymous nature of it really.. the problem i have is if its that comedian up on stage, his fans know what to expect its the precise opposite of hiding behind something as a suspicious, undetermined anomnity.

i understand the internet may be a haven for repressed paedophiles but I believe we should be setting a good example... and maybe a touch of class might creep in because this is all a bit too savage for me, and i certainly don't want a scenario where trying to set a good example draws the ire of the powers that be and bans happen for that, instead because then we really would be on the fast track to hell.

i dont know whats happening with the mods here, may be some old lurking deadwood over the best part of a decade and counting is preventing the newer, more interactive ones from setting a better example as the more established authority? There can be a murky atmosphere where practical gimps on chains and probable pdfiles post nonsense, for years yet sensible folk or bleeding hearts may get clipped off.. and not for drawing the ire of the public but seemingly for a mods personal grievance, i've also coined the phrase the modgelene laundry for a reason so work on it - the children shouldn't have to suffer nor feel repressed so bit of personality, bit of interaction bit of heart would suffice so lets all lay a better example. that is all

They'll be handing out infractions for writing grammatically correct sentences next..

El Weirdo

Wee Willy Harris wrote: »

i saw one guy post in the thread i dared not visit often '5yo goes missing in wales' that it if she ended up being sold off; she'd be 'loved' regardless and i just thought "what does he mean, who is he... could be a paedophile having a gloat" maybe like long term member 'pdfile' but eh; could be a joke so what eh.. but its just the anonymous nature of it really.. the problem i have is if its that comedian up on stage, his fans know what to expect its the precise opposite of hiding behind something as a suspicious, undetermined anomnity.

i understand the internet may be a haven for repressed paedophiles but I believe we should be setting a good example... and maybe a touch of class might creep in because this is all a bit too savage for me, and i certainly don't want a scenario where trying to set a good example draws the ire of the powers that be and bans happen for that, instead because then we really would be on the fast track to hell.

i dont know whats happening with the mods here, may be some old lurking deadwood over the best part of a decade and counting is preventing the newer, more interactive ones from setting a better example as the more established authority? There can be a murky atmosphere where practical gimps on chains and probable pdfiles post nonsense, for years yet sensible folk or bleeding hearts may get clipped off.. and not for drawing the ire of the public but seemingly for a mods personal grievance, i've also coined the phrase the modgelene laundry for a reason so work on it - the children shouldn't have to suffer nor feel repressed so bit of personality, bit of interaction bit of heart would suffice so lets all lay a better example. that is all

So much bollocks all in the one post. How do you do it?

If you have a problem with the modding on the site, take it to Feedback. Don't do it in here.

Mountainsandh

Yamileth Wide Imp wrote: »

Wow. This is unreal. 3 months in jail for what?

It's an idiotic thing to joke about a child like that, but they sent him to jail for that?

Posts like this are hilarious;

I have young kids too, and you can be sure they'll never post something as bad online

This is laughable Mountainsandh, how exactly do you know what your kids will and will not do?

Yes I absolutely do know, because my kids are not raised to be insensitive idiots, simple. I'm an attentive parent & doubt they will manage to become that in my back either, if that was ever a possibility.

Happyman42

Mountainsandh wrote: »

Yes I absolutely do know, because my kids are not raised to be insensitive idiots, simple. I'm an attentive parent & doubt they will manage to become that in my back either, if that was ever a possibility.

Like myself, you should finish rearing them before you become absolute about stuff like that. Many's the parent got a rude awakening.

Wee Willy Harris

If we want to set oursleves apart from the uk; then let's not revel in our freedom to be degenerates ok - let's not see similar legal measures introduced here I've always had contempt for authority; but more from a standpoint of why should there even need to be one so let's not let it happen off the back of such instances? Thank you.

Damathon111

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Those two people weren't just criticising Islam, they were preaching hate islamophobic bile.

There's nothing wrong with Islamophobia. Being a Muslim is a lifestyle choice, not a permanent condition like Downs syndrome or autism. Muslims ARE NOT A RACE and should be open to criticism. This pussy-liberal attitude is the reason why that Norwegian guy went nuts and killed a load of future left wingers. This will happen in Britain and I look forward to it, the West needs a wake-up call and stop suppressing its own people just to appease Muslims, ethnics and multiculturalists.

People preach hate towards Christians all the time but as soon as it's done to Muslims, it's a big problem. The left wing in the West is always criticizing Christianity and you don't see Christians holding effigies.

Savage and the Dutch politician didn't preach hate, they said they hate Islam, not Muslims. I am of the same opinion, I hate the religion, not the people.

ALL religions should be open to criticism.

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The guy was drunk at a friend's house and he copy-pasta something from sickipedia and changed it around a bit. I know tons of people who post jokes from there on Facebook all the time. He was unlucky tbh, and doesn't deserve jail for this as has been said ad infinitum.