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Master of the UniverseJoin Date:Posts: 35101
Hmm at least the Snes didnt need poxy addons
The Megadrive does not need a single add on. The only reason to have those add ons is for collectability and play the handful of good games on each console. I'd rather have add ons with more games to collect than no add ons at all.
Sure the Snes would have had an add on if the deal didn't fall through with Sony
And who please remind me is still making hardware?
What has that got to do with anything? Neither the Snes or the Megadrive are made anymore.And great games
Well, the only console out of the above which has had quite a few games released in the last few years is the Megadrive. Only one I can think of for the Snes is Nightmare Busters (which isnt out yet)And finally and most important Sega never had Boulder Dash on any of its consoles :eek:
Thank **** for that! Keep that trash for other systems
In conclusion, the Megadrive is the best, the Snes stinks and my dad would beat up your dad in a fight.0 -
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To continue the trolling...
Megadrive processor - Motorola 68000 @ 7.67 MHz
Snes processor - 65c816 @ 3.58 MHz
If you watch the Jame Rolfe Snes v Negadrive video...there's an interesting comparison of specs
Yet after all this time, I still can't decide which one is best. I don't think there is a single winner really, both are outstanding consoles.0 -
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Master of the UniverseJoin Date:Posts: 35101
That must be why the best genesis games don't even get near the third tier of top snes titles
Yep, because we all know, faster processor = worse games.
You my good man, are talking through your arse. Examples or your comment is automatically voided.
Actually, you know what, I'll give you examples.
Say, there are 10 games per 'tier'. So that would mean we're looking for a game from the snes top games, 21-30.
I'll take Retro-Sanctuary for example and give you a Megadrive game in each genre which is better.
30 - Hagane: The Final Conflict Snes - The Revenge of Shinobi and Shinobi 3 are superior.
29 - Populous. I dont need to say anything here.
28 - Contra III: The Alien Wars - This is one of those forever debatable ones, but Contra Hard Corps on the Megadrive is a far better game (and thankfully it's not fun of Michael Bay type gratuitous mode 7 effects)
27 - Axelay. The Megadrive, being the 'shmup console' has about a bazillion games better than this. I won't bore you by listing them all.
26 - Spindizzy Worlds - just. just no.
25 - Actraiser - Herzog Zwei
24 - Mortal Kombat 2. Both crap ports. Moving on.
23 - Super Castlevania IV. Whoever made this list was an idiot. This should be in the Snes top 10. Castlevania: Bloodlines gives it a very good run for it's money on the MD.
22 - R-Type III: The Third Lightning - ah, another slow, treakle like Snes shmup bettered by that above bazillion Megadrive ones.
21 - Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals - Phantasy Star IV.0 -
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If you watch the Jame Rolfe Snes v Negadrive video...there's an interesting comparison of specs
Yet after all this time, I still can't decide which one is best. I don't think there is a single winner really, both are outstanding consoles.
James Rolfes comparison of the specs is kind of BS though. Figures don't matter at all and stuff like MHz aren't an indicator of performance, stuff like ARM chips with low clock speeds will totally out perform many chips with much higher clock speeds.
A lot of those specs true but totally impractical in practice. The SNES has more sprites on screen but in practice with only a few on screen it's slowdown city. The high res mode is used by one game that I know of and in the character select screen of SoM and Secret of Evermore. It's a much lower resolution in all other games.
I think that was the weakest part of that video series, he really didn't have a clue about the tech specs of both consoles. I happened to find the tech war between the two consoles fascinating especially how clever megadrive programmers managed to fake effects like transparencies, rotation and scaling out of the megadrive when it really shouldn't have been able to do it.
Again to reiterate, both are amazing machines.
Phantasy Star 4 is better than Chrono Trigger!
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o1s1n is to the Megadrive what Pyongyang is to Darius.
Anytime something negative is said about the MD o1s1n can sense something is wrong with the Universe and dives onto the Internet asap. Lashing out buckets of info to prove it's the best. Then retires back to admire the gold wallpaper. :P
Nothing wrong with any of the above either, just makes for excellent reading. Love it! 0 -
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o1s1n is to the Megadrive what Pyongyang is to Darius.
Anytime something negative is said about the MD o1s1n can sense something is wrong with the Universe and dives onto the Internet asap. Lashing out buckets of info to prove it's the best. Then retires back to admire the gold wallpaper. :P
Nothing wrong with any of the above either, just makes for excellent reading. Love it!
Kinda like me with Boulder Dash
But im right o1s1n is wrong
That is all:D0 -
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the groutch wrote: »yeah, everyone has their "don't diss" game, mine is Final Fantasy X
Defend this:
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Jebus, so much seriousness going on here! What with people questioning other members console choices and what not.
I was just running around the daisy covered meadows of Jamma+ while someone played the harp and I come back to this
I'm back off to Jamma+:)0 -
Yep, because we all know, faster processor = worse games.
You my good man, are talking through your arse. Examples or your comment is automatically voided.
I deleted my post yet you still quoted it, thats bang out of order
Anyway I`ll bite
Games like Castlevania 4, donkey kong country 3, megaman x2 x3 and 7, super evermore, havest moon, super aleste, f-zero, starfox, sunset riders, super punch out, super turrican etc would it make into my own personal list of around the 30-20 games on the snes mark, these are only the games I own so you could throw in alot more rpgs into that list like lufia 1 and 2 and more rarer titles
The ones quoted in the article you mentioned I own hagane and some others from there
Imo yes those games are better than genesis games. Obviously the genesis does have some gems but for some reason they never show on the best games of all time lists while the lists are crowded with snes titles
If you want my top 20 games I`ll glady answer it
Every thread being turned into a how great the genesis is thing is seriously starting to grind my nuts on this forum0 -
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I deleted my post yet you still quoted it, thats bang out of order
I know. Shame on me. Imagine that, quoting something and replying to it on a forum. How dare I.
You saw how long my post was, right? I clearly wrote it while you were deleting it. You should delete your ninja posts quicker :PEvery thread being turned into a how great the genesis is thing is seriously starting to grind my nuts on this forum
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Retr0gamer wrote: »You're all talking as if the PC-Engine never existed
Aye. Could it be argued the PCE was the more impressive machine when you look at the quality of it's arcade ports?
Remind me again - it's considered a 16-bit machine because of the 2 x 8-bit processors?0 -
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Aye. Could it be argued the PCE was the more impressive machine when you look at the quality of it's arcade ports?
Remind me again - it's considered a 16-bit machine because of the 2 x 8-bit processors?
It had an 8-bit processor but it 16-bit graphics processors. 8-bits don't mean anything really, the 8-bit processor was blisteringly fast and with the fantastic video architecture taking a huge load off of the CPU it was more than a match for the Megadrive and totally outpaced the SNES for sprite pushing. Anything that wasn't related to pushing sprites however was a bit more difficult to code which was a limitation of the system. It could display way more colours than the Megadrive as well. It's never a case of MHz ratings or 'bits', it's always a lot more complicated with different strengths and weaknesses.
The PC Engine had a decent library of games and some good arcade ports but it's no where near as good as the MD and SNES library especially since you need the CD add-on to get most of the best games on the system.
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