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H.R. 6566: FEMA To Mobilize For “Mass Fatality Planning”

  • 05-10-2012 8:38pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭


    Don't normally quote Jones but he explains the bill quite well.

    Something like this comes in line and is well times with the recent stock piling of up to 1.2 billion bullets including hollow point in the last six months for use in the US jurisdiction plus the mass quantities of Plastic FEMA coffins that have been lying up for some time.

    The United States Congress has passed a bill which mandates the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to prepare for “mass fatality planning” and funeral homes, cemeteries and mortuaries being “overwhelmed” in the aftermath of a mass terror attack, natural disaster or other crisis.

    The bill, H. R. 6566 or the Mass Fatality Planning and Religious Considerations Act, was posted on the govtrack.us website this morning having been approved by the House on September 28.


    http://www.infowars.com/fema-to-mobilize-for-mass-fatality-planning/

    H.R. 6566 Full Text.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 833 ✭✭✭snafuk35


    What's so strange about this?
    A major natural disaster - tsunamis along the East or West coast or nuclear attacks could cause hundreds of thousands of deaths or even millions of deaths and the dislocation of tens of millions and massive disorder.


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    snafuk35 wrote: »
    What's so strange about this?
    A major natural disaster - tsunamis along the East or West coast or nuclear attacks could cause hundreds of thousands of deaths or even millions of deaths and the dislocation of tens of millions and massive disorder.
    Or perhaps a hurricane that would take out infrastructure in a large area and would hamper the already under-prepared and ineffective emergency response.

    But it's not like anything like that could or has happened....


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 833 ✭✭✭snafuk35


    King Mob wrote: »
    Or perhaps a hurricane that would take out infrastructure in a large area and would hamper the already under-prepared and ineffective emergency response.

    But it's not like anything like that could or has happened....

    It's not clear what you are trying to say.:confused:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Doom


    All the fat Americans are going to spontaneously explode, hence all the preparation


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Doom wrote: »
    All the fat Americans are going to spontaneously explode, hence all the preparation
    From all the genetically modified corn that is legally produced in the country it wouldn't surprise me. :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    Don't normally quote Jones but he explains the bill quite well.

    Something like this comes in line and is well times with the recent stock piling of up to 1.2 billion bullets including hollow point in the last six months for use in the US jurisdiction plus the mass quantities of Plastic FEMA coffins that have been lying up for some time.

    The United States Congress has passed a bill which mandates the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to prepare for “mass fatality planning” and funeral homes, cemeteries and mortuaries being “overwhelmed” in the aftermath of a mass terror attack, natural disaster or other crisis.

    The bill, H. R. 6566 or the Mass Fatality Planning and Religious Considerations Act, was posted on the govtrack.us website this morning having been approved by the House on September 28.


    http://www.infowars.com/fema-to-mobilize-for-mass-fatality-planning/

    H.R. 6566 Full Text.

    From the proposed amendment -

    "(1) Emergency preparedness often plans for how to prepare and provide for survivors of a natural disaster, act of terrorism, or other man-made disaster, but fails to plan for how to prepare for and respond to mass fatalities that result from such an incident."

    Seems quite sensible to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    From the proposed amendment -

    "(1) Emergency preparedness often plans for how to prepare and provide for survivors of a natural disaster, act of terrorism, or other man-made disaster, but fails to plan for how to prepare for and respond to mass fatalities that result from such an incident."

    Seems quite sensible to me.
    But why come out with this type of macabre stuff in the twilight weeks of a US term of Presidency. :confused:

    Its like as if they are expecting something bad to happen and want to be prepared for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    But why come out with this type of macabre stuff in the twilight weeks of a US term of Presidency. :confused:

    Its like as if they are expecting something bad to happen and want to be prepared for it.

    It's their job. It's called planning. Look here's DEMA, it's from Denmark, it does the same thing.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Emergency_Management_Agency


    Wait you are not seriously suggesting Alex Jones is peddling it to a paranoid audience to sell more survival equipment on his website?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    It's their job. It's called planning. Look here's DEMA, it's from Denmark, it does the same thing.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Emergency_Management_Agency


    Wait you are not seriously suggesting Alex Jones is peddling it to a paranoid audience to sell more survival equipment on his website?

    I don't normally quote Jones.

    I did provide the raw link.


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    snafuk35 wrote: »
    It's not clear what you are trying to say.:confused:

    I am saying that this legislation is them simply fixing some of the problems that led to so many **** ups during Hurricane Katrina.
    A much more sane and rational explanation than another soon to be fail RDTH prophesy.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    King Mob wrote: »
    I am saying that this legislation is them simply fixing some of the problems that led to so many **** ups during Hurricane Katrina.
    A much more sane and rational explanation than another soon to be fail RDTH prophesy.

    That dose not make any sense.

    We are coming to the arse end of the US Hurricane Season.

    Why should Obama suddenly be concerned about storm related fatalities to bring in such legislation. :confused:


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That dose not make any sense.

    We are coming to the arse end of the US Hurricane Season.

    Why should Obama suddenly be concerned about storm related fatalities to bring in such legislation. :confused:
    Because government is slow and unwieldy. There are other potential disasters besides hurricanes. And at least it would be ready for next hurricane season.
    Please explain how that explanation is less likely that it's part of a secret plan to kill a bunch of people that they just happened to let slip so you, Alex Jones and other keyboard detectives could figure it out?

    What makes you think, other than your compulsion to make everything part of your conspiracy, that Obama was "suddenly" concerned? Or "concerned" at all?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    From the proposed amendment -

    "(1) Emergency preparedness often plans for how to prepare and provide for survivors of a natural disaster, act of terrorism, or other man-made disaster, but fails to plan for how to prepare for and respond to mass fatalities that result from such an incident."

    Seems quite sensible to me.

    makes you wonder what kind of nob heads were running the show up until now

    planning for natural disaster, act of terrorism, or other man-made disaster where nobody dies :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    King Mob wrote: »
    Because government is slow and unwieldy. There are other potential disasters besides hurricanes. And at least it would be ready for next hurricane season.


    7 years since Katrina kinda left it on the long finger alright guess they were just lucky they did not need mass fatality planning in all that time


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    enno99 wrote: »
    7 years since Katrina kinda left it on the long finger alright guess they were just lucky they did not need mass fatality planning in all that time
    Yes, because governments are slow and ineffectual.
    What's your point?

    Any comment on the rather gaping hole in the logic of the theory?


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The US Government under Obama is anything but slow when it comes to arming itself up to the teeth and spying against US citizens . :)
    But in the real world, government is slow and stupid.
    The real point of the matter is:

    NDAA AKA Martial Law.

    FEMA Concentration Camps and coffins.

    Massive Militarisation of DHS, police and other government agencies such as the weather service.

    Massive increase in surveylance, CCTV Spy drones etc amongst ordinary people.

    Just start connecting up all the dots and you will get the picture. :)
    None of those things are true though.
    In every single thread where you've lied and distorted and scaremongered about those, it's been shown again and again and again that what you claim isn't true.
    You were called out about NDAA being martial law and not only could you not point to a single example of it being used you could not explain how it makes martial law, or why it was needed in the first place.

    For your claim about arming the DHS it was pointed out to you by everyone that the figure was in context and with the facts you left out (such as it being over a few years) was not that much. You simply refused to acknowledge that point.

    You've never been able to show any increase in drones or surveillance or the bull**** about FEMA camps or coffins, those being based on the same lies and distortions you spread about everything else.

    So the real point of the matter is are you being dishonest on purpose or just don't realise how dishonest you are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    King Mob wrote: »
    But in the real world, government is slow and stupid.


    Rather quick to get their finger out when its time to protect civilians in other peoples countries you know like no fly zones/ arming terrorists/killing civilians with drones etc

    Or is that not real enough for you ?


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    enno99 wrote: »
    Rather quick to get their finger out when its time to protect civilians in other peoples countries you know like no fly zones/ arming terrorists/killing civilians with drones etc

    Or is that not real enough for you ?
    No it's not real enough for me as your points are over-simplistic, biased and childish.

    Do you think that RDTH has been correct so far when he had claimed that the NDAA enacts martial law? Or when her claimed that the DHS is arming itself for the upcoming takeover? Or about this pissy little bit of legislation being part of the conspiracy?

    Still no comment on the gaping hole in the theory?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 MikeGil


    Isnt Marshall law in silent effect in the US already?

    http://rt.com/usa/news/obama-executive-order-national-929/

    1.2 Billion rounds of ammo is a strange thing for the DHS to stock up on.

    Mass unrest is coming or at least that is what the secret government want.

    Obama will prob get re-elected or the elections will be postponed then **** will hit the fan and people will riot....they will drag people off to the 're-education camps' in small amounts...Who says that all these protesters that have been arrested are not in these FEMA camps today?

    I do trust the american people but I don't trust the secret illegal government that has hijacked their country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,171 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    MikeGil wrote: »
    Isnt Marshall law in silent effect in the US already?

    http://rt.com/usa/news/obama-executive-order-national-929/

    1.2 Billion rounds of ammo is a strange thing for the DHS to stock up on.

    That has been explained on several threads both here and on other forums on this site. It's no indicator of anything, government ammo purchases are common in the US. A few years ago they bought up so much .223/5.56 ammunition that it even reduced availability and raised prices in Europe. They buy their ammo every few years and when they do they buy just about every round of ammo that is on the market at that time.


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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    MikeGil wrote: »
    Isnt Marshall law in silent effect in the US already?

    http://rt.com/usa/news/obama-executive-order-national-929/
    What specifically in the law allows for martial law or any of the powers that RT and RtdHs and other biased, scaremongers claim?
    Please point to a single instance of it being used.
    MikeGil wrote: »
    1.2 Billion rounds of ammo is a strange thing for the DHS to stock up on.
    No it's not as has been pointed out. Also the fact you're leaving out is that it's 1.2 billion rounds of ammo over 5 years.
    MikeGil wrote: »
    Mass unrest is coming or at least that is what the secret government want.
    Yes, it's always just around corner. Like it has been for the last 30 or so years...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    King Mob wrote: »

    Any comment on the rather gaping hole in the logic of the theory?

    Yep the gaping hole in the logic of the theory is

    Logic would dictate that this type of preparation would be implemented immediatly after the so many **** ups during Hurricane Katrina. (as you put it)

    So as to be prepared for a similar situation that could arise at any time not to wait 7 years

    So in the absense of logic you put forward the excuse that government is slow and ineffectual/stupid hense the lapse of 7 years

    When it is pointed out to you that they are most effective and quick when it comes to waging wars no fly zones/ arming terrorists/killing civilians with drones etc

    And this type of statement(slow and ineffectual/stupid) dosent hold up

    You resort to name calling as per usual


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 MikeGil


    King Mob wrote: »
    What specifically in the law allows for martial law or any of the powers that RT and RtdHs and other biased, scaremongers claim?
    Please point to a single instance of it being used.

    No it's not as has been pointed out. Also the fact you're leaving out is that it's 1.2 billion rounds of ammo over 5 years.

    Yes, it's always just around corner. Like it has been for the last 30 or so years...

    ok so its normal to buy that amount of ammo but to me thats never a 'normal' thing to do.I guess we are 'used' to this behaviour. The Nazi's did take their time killing the Jews.

    Its been around the corner since the 60's for a reason. The illegal secret world government has failed quite a few times but they know the secret to winning this time is to incite unrest after all the top brass behind obama are the same insane army war mongering nutjobs from the 1960's the likes of kissinger.

    Also I asked the question about marshall law. Since when is asking a question making a statement?

    I may aswell ask another question.Did Zionist's bring down the twin towers? Why did Larry take out terrorist insurance before the incident? Why were the firefighters reporting explosions in the basement? Why was there molten steel found at ground zero up to 5 months after the 'attack'? Why did the tyres melt off each vehicle at ground zero? Why has there been over 6000 cases of cancer and 60 different types of cancer reported by people that were in the area and why is it a similar case to hiroshima?

    I also think Alex Jones is a Zionist shill and de facto Zionist agent and spin meister.
    It would explain a few things.

    1. Where he gets his info.
    2. Why he hasnt been silenced.
    3. Why any mention of his wife on his forum is instantly deleted.

    Anyway I couldnt care less, its been like this for centuries.


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I was referring the the gaping hole in RtdHs theory.
    But you are more interested in discussing me than it.
    enno99 wrote: »
    You resort to name calling as per usual
    You're welcome to report it.


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    MikeGil wrote: »
    ok so its normal to buy that amount of ammo but to me thats never a 'normal' thing to do.I guess we are 'used' to this behaviour. The Nazi's did take their time killing the Jews.
    It might not be normal to you, but that really doesn't matter. It's an argument from ignorance.
    It was repeatedly shown that that ammo used is mostly used in training and certification of the employees that need training and certification. And once this is taken into consideration, as well as the fact that the figure was over a period of years, the number of rounds use is completely mudane.

    But if like certain biased sources, you leave out facts, twist reality and make a scary sounding headline, you can make it look otherwise.
    MikeGil wrote: »
    Its been around the corner since the 60's for a reason.
    Yes, because people make the exact same predictions all the time and they always fail.
    MikeGil wrote: »
    Also I asked the question about marshall law. Since when is asking a question making a statement?
    When it's a veiled statement made in such a way to try and avoid supporting it.
    MikeGil wrote: »
    I may aswell ask another question.Did Zionist's bring down the twin towers? Why did Larry take out terrorist insurance before the incident? Why were the firefighters reporting explosions in the basement? Why was there molten steel found at ground zero up to 5 months after the 'attack'? Why did the tyres melt off each vehicle at ground zero? Why has there been over 6000 cases of cancer and 60 different types of cancer reported by people that were in the area and why is it a similar case to hiroshima?
    No. Because it they had been attacked by terrorists before and he was required by the purchase agreement to buy it, and he's never been able to make back his money. Explosions do not equal explosives. It wasn't. Flaming debris. Carcinogenic dust and smoke. It's not, notably due to the lack of radiation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    King Mob wrote: »
    I was referring the the gaping hole in RtdHs theory.
    But you are more interested in discussing me than it.

    You're welcome to report it.

    dont flatter yourself I just dont see where you pointed it out

    Please explain how that explanation is less likely that it's part of a secret plan to kill a bunch of people that they just happened to let slip so you, Alex Jones and other keyboard detectives could figure it out?

    this is the only thing I dont think I have addressed
    I dont recall the mention of a secret plan so I just dismissed this as your usual line of BS


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    enno99 wrote: »
    dont flatter yourself I just dont see where you pointed it out

    Please explain how that explanation is less likely that it's part of a secret plan to kill a bunch of people that they just happened to let slip so you, Alex Jones and other keyboard detectives could figure it out?

    this is the only thing I dont think I have addressed
    I dont recall the mention of a secret plan so I just dismissed this as your usual line of BS
    It took 9 years for a bill about providing health care to first responders at 9/11 to get made and passed.
    Why?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    King Mob wrote: »
    But in the real world, government is slow and stupid.


    None of those things are true though.
    That's what American Main Stream Television would like you to believe.

    The real point of the matter is:

    NDAA AKA Martial Law .FACT.


    FEMA Concentration Camps and coffins FACT, (EO's related to state of emergencies)

    Massive Militarisation of DHS, police and other government agencies such as the weather service. FACT.

    Massive increase in surveylance, CCTV Spy drones etc amongst ordinary people.

    Just start connecting up all the dots and you will get the picture. :) FACT.
    King Mob wrote: »


    In every single thread where you've lied and distorted and scaremongered about those
    Thats a sweeping statement.

    I always produce facts and links to back up my statements some even contain the original EO / HR source or from Whitehorse Documents.

    You are just too lazy to read them.

    In fact you are the very one that is distorting my threads and making them out to be untrue.
    King Mob wrote: »

    You've never been able to show any increase in drones or surveillance or the bull**** about FEMA camps or coffins, those being based on the same lies and distortions you spread about everything else.

    So the real point of the matter is are you being dishonest on purpose or just don't realise how dishonest you are.

    Again I have produced plenty of mainstream articles and valid links concerning Obama's craze for drones both killer and surveylance of which he will no doubt use against his own people in America,

    Warlords in Drone Frenzy – Global Rollout Planned
    King Mob wrote: »
    Yes, because governments are slow and ineffectual
    The US Government under Obama is anything but slow when it comes to arming itself up to the teeth, carrying out false flag attacks and spying against US citizens . :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 MikeGil


    King Mob wrote: »
    It might not be normal to you, but that really doesn't matter. It's an argument from ignorance.
    It was repeatedly shown that that ammo used is mostly used in training and certification of the employees that need training and certification. And once this is taken into consideration, as well as the fact that the figure was over a period of years, the number of rounds use is completely mudane.

    But if like certain biased sources, you leave out facts, twist reality and make a scary sounding headline, you can make it look otherwise.


    Yes, because people make the exact same predictions all the time and they always fail.


    When it's a veiled statement made in such a way to try and avoid supporting it.


    No. Because it they had been attacked by terrorists before and he was required by the purchase agreement to buy it, and he's never been able to make back his money. Explosions do not equal explosives. It wasn't. Flaming debris. Carcinogenic dust and smoke. It's not, notably due to the lack of radiation.

    You think 240 million rounds of ammo a year is ok? 657,534 rounds of ammo a day is mundane? Are you an Xbox head that plays gar games?

    It looks like you leave out facts, twist reality and make a scary sounding headline sound like a 'normal' day at the office.

    It also feels like you are defending the illegal government of Obama and we should all just sigh and say 'its ok, all of this is just mundane and normal' Lets go back to our slave ignorant reality.

    People make the exact same predictions all the time and they always fail?

    Larry took out insurance weeks before the attack and made a couple of billion off the destruction. Zionists run Wall St and own the media so go get off your arse and wipe your eyes as you have been fed lie after lie.

    Its pretty obvious that you sit on this site bullying people with your reality while forcing them to see it your way.
    Well the things is People have the right to have their own opinion, its called 'free speech' not 'listen to me speech'.

    Where do you get your information from? I would like to know why you think what you have to say has more truth than what I have to say?

    It would be quicker to just admit that you hate to be wrong.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    King Mob wrote: »
    It took 9 years for a bill about providing health care to first responders at 9/11 to get made and passed.
    Why?

    Ok let me guess

    they were slow and ineffectual/stupid or they are heartless money grabbing/power hungry c*nts

    I think I will go with the latter


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I always produce facts and links to back up my statements some even contain the original EO / HR source or from Whitehorse Documents.
    Cept you always leave out facts that are uncomfortable and twist them to fit into your fantasy, then ignore any points you can't answer.
    Everyone calls you on it.

    You have not been able to answer the questions about what specifically in the NDAA allows for any of the things your claim, nor provide a single example of it being used, nor explain why it's needed in the first place.

    You were shown repeatedly both here and it other forums that your claims about the ammo bought by the DHS are wrong.
    You simply ignored those points.

    And then you just post links from news sites you believe without questions ad nauseum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,171 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    MikeGil wrote: »
    You think 240 million rounds of ammo a year is ok? 657,534 rounds of ammo a day is mundane? Are you an Xbox head that plays gar games?

    Split the purchased ammuntion between every DHS agent over 5 years...that includes;

    Their annual allowance of ammunition and a quantity kept in reserve for each agent should it be needed.

    A sizeable amount for training and annual re-certification for every agent.

    Another large amount amount to be kept back to be distributed to new agents .

    A large quantity to be kept at the ready for unforseen circumstances.

    The quantity of ammo which is bought up by the US military and state departments is huge, as I said earlier these contracts are put out every few years and they buy vast amounts of ammo....people with no understanding of these practices are attaching meaning to it now when it has always been done this way, in the past the only people who noticed were civilian shooters who noticed it in the reduced availability and thus price increases in ammo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    King Mob wrote: »
    Cept you always leave out facts that are uncomfortable and twist them to fit into your fantasy, then ignore any points you can't answer.
    Everyone calls you on it.You have not been able to answer the questions about what specifically in the NDAA allows for any of the things your claim, nor provide a single example of it being used, nor explain why it's needed in the first place.

    You were shown repeatedly both here and it other forums that your claims about the ammo bought by the DHS are wrong.
    You simply ignored those points.

    And then you just post links from news sites you believe without questions ad nauseum.

    Ok, I may be wrong,

    Obama has decided to arm all his departments to the teeth because he is expecting an epidemic of Canada geese to flood America very soon.

    Are you happy now that I have given a reasonable explanation for him ordering so many bullets. :)

    THe funny thing is that if Obama said the above his followers would believe every bit of it. LOL.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 MikeGil


    Blay wrote: »
    Split the purchased ammuntion between every DHS agent over 5 years...that includes;

    Their annual allowance of ammunition and a quantity kept in reserve for each agent should it be needed.

    A sizeable amount for training and annual re-certification for every agent.

    Another large amount amount to be kept back to be distributed to new agents .

    A large quantity to be kept at the ready for unforseen circumstances.

    The quantity of ammo which is bought up by the US military and state departments is huge, as I said earlier these contracts are put out every few years and they buy vast amounts of ammo and have always done it that way.


    I think you are missing the point I am trying to make.

    THIS ISNT NORMAL

    Anyone that breaks it down to be an Ok thing to be doing is insane so congratulations on the notion that training to kill people is ok.

    Unforeseen circumstances? Like a 32 year old mother of 4 in her SUV with no gun is a difficult target? Get a grip.


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    MikeGil wrote: »
    You think 240 million rounds of ammo a year is ok? 657,534 rounds of ammo a day is mundane? Are you an Xbox head that plays gar games?
    Yes, spread out over the entire country to be used in training by thousands of people in hundreds of departments.
    It was pointed out in that thread what really happens to the ammo once the scaremongering and spin is stripped away.
    MikeGil wrote: »
    People make the exact same predictions all the time and they always fail?
    Yes. People have been saying that the goverment is just about to take over. RtdH and alex jones and others have been claiming exactly that for years.
    Whenever they make a prediction, it fails.
    MikeGil wrote: »
    Larry took out insurance weeks before the attack and made a couple of billion off the destruction. Zionists run Wall St and own the media so go get off your arse and wipe your eyes as you have been fed lie after lie.
    Lol, irony. accusing me of believeing lies when everything you just claimed about 9/11 is.
    MikeGil wrote: »
    Well the things is People have the right to have their own opinion,
    Cept for me cause my opinion doesn't agree with yours?

    When have I told someone not to express their opinion?
    Or am I just not allowed to disagree with people?
    MikeGil wrote: »
    Where do you get your information from? I would like to know why you think what you have to say has more truth than what I have to say?
    Basic research and critical thinking.
    It tends to ruin most conspiracy theories.


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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ok, I may be wrong,

    Obama has decided to arm all his departments to the teeth because he is expecting an epidemic of Canada geese to flood America very soon.

    Are you happy now that I have given a reasonable explanation for him ordering so many bullets. :)

    THe funny thing is that if Obama said the above his followers would believe every bit of it. LOL.
    And then when faced with just how little your claims have behind them and how many holes and unanswered questions there are you come out with childish nonsense like this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,171 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    MikeGil wrote: »
    I think you are missing the point I am trying to make.

    THIS ISNT NORMAL

    Anyone that breaks it down to be an Ok thing to be doing is insane so congratulations on the notion that training to kill people is ok.

    Unforeseen circumstances? Like a 32 year old mother of 4 in her SUV with no gun is a difficult target? Get a grip.

    How is it not normal?

    That is how the departments in the US have always bought their ammo...that's how they do things there...just because you're not used to it happening here doesn't mean it's not normal. Every country puts ammo contracts out to tender..the US, UK, Ireland, France, Germany....everywhere. The only difference is that the US has a population of 300m+ and the quantities which their government has to buy probably equals the ammo purchases all of Europe.

    'Training to kill people' ffs will you at least have a rational discussion here...the Gardai buy ammunition for their armed officers to 'kill people'..the defence forces train to 'kill people' too..bet that doesn't inspire your CTs though..no only the US 'kills people':rolleyes:

    Unforseen circumstances like..higher than anticipated recruitment which depletes the amount set aside for new agents...anything bought on a long term contract has extra included for projection errors etc.


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    enno99 wrote: »
    Ok let me guess

    they were slow and ineffectual/stupid or they are heartless money grabbing/power hungry c*nts

    I think I will go with the latter
    But supplying healthcare for 9/11 heroes would have been a political slam dunk.
    It cost practically nothing, looks amazing and caring.
    If the conspiracy you are imagining exists, there's no reason for them to block that law.

    Yet because of partisan nonsense and the labyrinthine nature of congress and law, a simple clearly good bill with no downside at all took 9 years to get made after the event.

    So considering that this Fema plan would have required them to find out what went wrong in Katrina, research the problem, propose solutions, research and test them, then get approved by the people needed to approve it in Fema, thenget it into the process of making it law....
    (And this is of course excluding all the committees and reviews it would be bounced around during all of that.)
    Relatively speaking, just 7 years is quick.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    King Mob wrote: »
    And then when faced with just how little your claims have behind them and how many holes and unanswered questions there are you come out with childish nonsense like this.

    OK you explain why he has ordered so many bullets. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 MikeGil


    “I agree that while on the air, Alex Jones is a disinfo agent for the Jews and Israel. Obama, whom Jones criticizes, is an African American whose administration is infiltrated with Jews and Israel-Firsters. The communists, to whom Alex Jones and his guests refer, who influence and surround Obama, are also Jews. The banksters and the elite groups they talk about are dominated by the Zionists. There would not be the powerful Rockefeller dynasty had not the Jewish Israel-Firsters, the Rothschilds, financed it.

    Israel did 9/11 - Mossad did 9/11. The low-life Larry Silverstein should be arrested and asked to take a lie detector test because of his involvement and benefit from the destruction of the twin towers. I am very disgusted with the decision of Alex Jones to revert to his former refusal to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth as to the identity of the criminals who are destroying the USA.”

    http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=387


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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    OK you explain why he has ordered so many bullets. :)
    It's been repeatedly explained to you both in the original thread, on a different forum and now again here by Blay. He's putting it better than I could.

    Do you not see the irony in you demanding I answer a question when you are constantly ignoring them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,171 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    OK you explain why he has ordered so many bullets. :)

    You've been told several times why that contract was put out to tender RTDH on several forums here...by both serving/ex military users and civilian shooters and you continue to use the argument and when you're challenged on it you go quiet on the issue for a few weeks then use it again...why?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Blay wrote: »
    You've been told several times why that contract was put out to tender RTDH on several forums here...by both serving/ex military users and civilian shooters and you continue to use the argument and when you're challenged on it you go quiet on the issue for a few weeks then use it again...why?
    I use it again now because it is beginning to make sense.

    Put two and two together.

    Loads of bullets ordered and mass fatality planned. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 MikeGil


    King Mob wrote: »
    It's been repeatedly explained to you both in the original thread, on a different forum and now again here by Blay. He's putting it better than I could.

    Do you not see the irony in you demanding I answer a question when you are constantly ignoring them?

    Listen mate, just because you 'explain' something to me doesn't mean you are right or the info you dish is right either. You read it off a website yes? You believe everything you are told by the US government right? Its ok for them to kill one million civilians in Iraq is it? You are regurgitating words that murders wrote. its called propaganda.

    I understand English and I also understand that the US government has been infiltrated. They are operating illegally so it doesn't matter to me how many different ways you dress up the elephant in the corner. I know I am right and you think what you say is right but unfortunately the real facts speak for themselves and not the spin that the government has given you to digest and be happy with.

    Why dont you join the US government? You obviously love their work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,171 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    I use it again now because it is beginning to make sense.

    Put two and two together.

    Loads of bullets ordered and mass fatality planned. :)

    Right:rolleyes:

    As I said to you in AH a few weeks ago..I recall you saying martial law would be imposed no later than November. So when November comes and goes with no martial law as it inevitably will, you will come on this forum, start a thread and admit you were talking sh1te?


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    MikeGil wrote: »
    Listen mate, just because you 'explain' something to me doesn't mean you are right or the info you dish is right either. You read it off a website yes? You believe everything you are told by the US government right? Its ok for them to kill one million civilians in Iraq is it? You are regurgitating words that murders wrote. its called propaganda.
    Lol, again with the irony.

    Where precisely did you get the figure of one million civilians?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 MikeGil


    Blay wrote: »
    Right:rolleyes:

    As I said to you in AH a few weeks ago..I recall you saying martial law would be imposed no later than November. So when November comes and goes with no martial law as it inevitably will, you will come on this forum, start a thread and admit you were talking sh1te?

    Its already in effect, you two just don't see it.

    '' If you tossed a frog into already-boiling water, it would leap out. But a frog placed into a pan of water with a low flame under it will slowly be boiled alive, the temperature change being too subtle for the frog to notice.''

    Vg4Jl.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,171 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    MikeGil wrote: »
    Its already in effect, you two just don't see it.

    Vg4Jl.jpg

    No no:pac:..RTDH stated unreservedly that November was the tipping point, you and the other CT drones can't help him out of this one..he's laid his cards on the table for once and we'll see how the dice falls on this one...I predict RTDH to ignore all who question him on it...as usual and general hilarity to ensue:pac:


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Blay wrote: »
    he's laid his cards on the table for once:
    Oh no, this is not the first time he's made a solid prediction.
    He claimed that there would be something at the Olympics.
    Didn't work out so well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,171 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    King Mob wrote: »
    Oh no, this is not the first time he's made a solid prediction.
    He claimed that there would be something at the Olympics.
    Didn't work out so well.

    My god you're right...he ignored all the questions about his failed prediction then too....it's almost like RTDH is talking constant sh1te and ignores everyone when he's called up on it...shocker:pac:


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