H.R. 6566: FEMA To Mobilize For “Mass Fatality Planning”

Run_to_da_hills

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I always produce facts and links to back up my statements some even contain the original EO / HR source or from Whitehorse Documents.

Cept you always leave out facts that are uncomfortable and twist them to fit into your fantasy, then ignore any points you can't answer.
Everyone calls you on it.

You have not been able to answer the questions about what specifically in the NDAA allows for any of the things your claim, nor provide a single example of it being used, nor explain why it's needed in the first place.

You were shown repeatedly both here and it other forums that your claims about the ammo bought by the DHS are wrong.
You simply ignored those points.

And then you just post links from news sites you believe without questions ad nauseum.

Witcher

MikeGil wrote: »

You think 240 million rounds of ammo a year is ok? 657,534 rounds of ammo a day is mundane? Are you an Xbox head that plays gar games?

Split the purchased ammuntion between every DHS agent over 5 years...that includes;

Their annual allowance of ammunition and a quantity kept in reserve for each agent should it be needed.

A sizeable amount for training and annual re-certification for every agent.

Another large amount amount to be kept back to be distributed to new agents .

A large quantity to be kept at the ready for unforseen circumstances.

The quantity of ammo which is bought up by the US military and state departments is huge, as I said earlier these contracts are put out every few years and they buy vast amounts of ammo....people with no understanding of these practices are attaching meaning to it now when it has always been done this way, in the past the only people who noticed were civilian shooters who noticed it in the reduced availability and thus price increases in ammo.

Run_to_da_hills

King Mob wrote: »

Cept you always leave out facts that are uncomfortable and twist them to fit into your fantasy, then ignore any points you can't answer.
Everyone calls you on it.You have not been able to answer the questions about what specifically in the NDAA allows for any of the things your claim, nor provide a single example of it being used, nor explain why it's needed in the first place.

You were shown repeatedly both here and it other forums that your claims about the ammo bought by the DHS are wrong.
You simply ignored those points.

And then you just post links from news sites you believe without questions ad nauseum.

Ok, I may be wrong,

Obama has decided to arm all his departments to the teeth because he is expecting an epidemic of Canada geese to flood America very soon.

Are you happy now that I have given a reasonable explanation for him ordering so many bullets.

THe funny thing is that if Obama said the above his followers would believe every bit of it. LOL.

MikeGil

Blay wrote: »

Split the purchased ammuntion between every DHS agent over 5 years...that includes;

Their annual allowance of ammunition and a quantity kept in reserve for each agent should it be needed.

A sizeable amount for training and annual re-certification for every agent.

Another large amount amount to be kept back to be distributed to new agents .

A large quantity to be kept at the ready for unforseen circumstances.

The quantity of ammo which is bought up by the US military and state departments is huge, as I said earlier these contracts are put out every few years and they buy vast amounts of ammo and have always done it that way.

I think you are missing the point I am trying to make.

THIS ISNT NORMAL

Anyone that breaks it down to be an Ok thing to be doing is insane so congratulations on the notion that training to kill people is ok.

Unforeseen circumstances? Like a 32 year old mother of 4 in her SUV with no gun is a difficult target? Get a grip.

MikeGil

MikeGil wrote: »

You think 240 million rounds of ammo a year is ok? 657,534 rounds of ammo a day is mundane? Are you an Xbox head that plays gar games?

Yes, spread out over the entire country to be used in training by thousands of people in hundreds of departments.
It was pointed out in that thread what really happens to the ammo once the scaremongering and spin is stripped away.

MikeGil wrote: »

People make the exact same predictions all the time and they always fail?

Yes. People have been saying that the goverment is just about to take over. RtdH and alex jones and others have been claiming exactly that for years.
Whenever they make a prediction, it fails.

MikeGil wrote: »

Larry took out insurance weeks before the attack and made a couple of billion off the destruction. Zionists run Wall St and own the media so go get off your arse and wipe your eyes as you have been fed lie after lie.

Lol, irony. accusing me of believeing lies when everything you just claimed about 9/11 is.

MikeGil wrote: »

Well the things is People have the right to have their own opinion,

Cept for me cause my opinion doesn't agree with yours?

When have I told someone not to express their opinion?
Or am I just not allowed to disagree with people?

MikeGil wrote: »

Where do you get your information from? I would like to know why you think what you have to say has more truth than what I have to say?

Basic research and critical thinking.
It tends to ruin most conspiracy theories.

Run_to_da_hills

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Ok, I may be wrong,

Obama has decided to arm all his departments to the teeth because he is expecting an epidemic of Canada geese to flood America very soon.

Are you happy now that I have given a reasonable explanation for him ordering so many bullets.

THe funny thing is that if Obama said the above his followers would believe every bit of it. LOL.

And then when faced with just how little your claims have behind them and how many holes and unanswered questions there are you come out with childish nonsense like this.

Witcher

MikeGil wrote: »

I think you are missing the point I am trying to make.

THIS ISNT NORMAL

Anyone that breaks it down to be an Ok thing to be doing is insane so congratulations on the notion that training to kill people is ok.

Unforeseen circumstances? Like a 32 year old mother of 4 in her SUV with no gun is a difficult target? Get a grip.

How is it not normal?

That is how the departments in the US have always bought their ammo...that's how they do things there...just because you're not used to it happening here doesn't mean it's not normal. Every country puts ammo contracts out to tender..the US, UK, Ireland, France, Germany....everywhere. The only difference is that the US has a population of 300m+ and the quantities which their government has to buy probably equals the ammo purchases all of Europe.

'Training to kill people' ffs will you at least have a rational discussion here...the Gardai buy ammunition for their armed officers to 'kill people'..the defence forces train to 'kill people' too..bet that doesn't inspire your CTs though..no only the US 'kills people':rolleyes:

Unforseen circumstances like..higher than anticipated recruitment which depletes the amount set aside for new agents...anything bought on a long term contract has extra included for projection errors etc.

enno99

enno99 wrote: »

Ok let me guess

they were slow and ineffectual/stupid or they are heartless money grabbing/power hungry c*nts

I think I will go with the latter

But supplying healthcare for 9/11 heroes would have been a political slam dunk.
It cost practically nothing, looks amazing and caring.
If the conspiracy you are imagining exists, there's no reason for them to block that law.

Yet because of partisan nonsense and the labyrinthine nature of congress and law, a simple clearly good bill with no downside at all took 9 years to get made after the event.

So considering that this Fema plan would have required them to find out what went wrong in Katrina, research the problem, propose solutions, research and test them, then get approved by the people needed to approve it in Fema, thenget it into the process of making it law....
(And this is of course excluding all the committees and reviews it would be bounced around during all of that.)
Relatively speaking, just 7 years is quick.

Run_to_da_hills

King Mob wrote: »

And then when faced with just how little your claims have behind them and how many holes and unanswered questions there are you come out with childish nonsense like this.

OK you explain why he has ordered so many bullets.

MikeGil

“I agree that while on the air, Alex Jones is a disinfo agent for the Jews and Israel. Obama, whom Jones criticizes, is an African American whose administration is infiltrated with Jews and Israel-Firsters. The communists, to whom Alex Jones and his guests refer, who influence and surround Obama, are also Jews. The banksters and the elite groups they talk about are dominated by the Zionists. There would not be the powerful Rockefeller dynasty had not the Jewish Israel-Firsters, the Rothschilds, financed it.

Israel did 9/11 - Mossad did 9/11. The low-life Larry Silverstein should be arrested and asked to take a lie detector test because of his involvement and benefit from the destruction of the twin towers. I am very disgusted with the decision of Alex Jones to revert to his former refusal to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth as to the identity of the criminals who are destroying the USA.”

http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=387

Run_to_da_hills

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

OK you explain why he has ordered so many bullets.

It's been repeatedly explained to you both in the original thread, on a different forum and now again here by Blay. He's putting it better than I could.

Do you not see the irony in you demanding I answer a question when you are constantly ignoring them?

Witcher

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

OK you explain why he has ordered so many bullets.

You've been told several times why that contract was put out to tender RTDH on several forums here...by both serving/ex military users and civilian shooters and you continue to use the argument and when you're challenged on it you go quiet on the issue for a few weeks then use it again...why?

Run_to_da_hills

Blay wrote: »

You've been told several times why that contract was put out to tender RTDH on several forums here...by both serving/ex military users and civilian shooters and you continue to use the argument and when you're challenged on it you go quiet on the issue for a few weeks then use it again...why?

I use it again now because it is beginning to make sense.

Put two and two together.

Loads of bullets ordered and mass fatality planned.

MikeGil

King Mob wrote: »

It's been repeatedly explained to you both in the original thread, on a different forum and now again here by Blay. He's putting it better than I could.

Do you not see the irony in you demanding I answer a question when you are constantly ignoring them?

Listen mate, just because you 'explain' something to me doesn't mean you are right or the info you dish is right either. You read it off a website yes? You believe everything you are told by the US government right? Its ok for them to kill one million civilians in Iraq is it? You are regurgitating words that murders wrote. its called propaganda.

I understand English and I also understand that the US government has been infiltrated. They are operating illegally so it doesn't matter to me how many different ways you dress up the elephant in the corner. I know I am right and you think what you say is right but unfortunately the real facts speak for themselves and not the spin that the government has given you to digest and be happy with.

Why dont you join the US government? You obviously love their work.

Witcher

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I use it again now because it is beginning to make sense.

Put two and two together.

Loads of bullets ordered and mass fatality planned.

Right:rolleyes:

As I said to you in AH a few weeks ago..I recall you saying martial law would be imposed no later than November. So when November comes and goes with no martial law as it inevitably will, you will come on this forum, start a thread and admit you were talking sh1te?

MikeGil

MikeGil wrote: »

Listen mate, just because you 'explain' something to me doesn't mean you are right or the info you dish is right either. You read it off a website yes? You believe everything you are told by the US government right? Its ok for them to kill one million civilians in Iraq is it? You are regurgitating words that murders wrote. its called propaganda.

Lol, again with the irony.

Where precisely did you get the figure of one million civilians?

MikeGil

Blay wrote: »

Right:rolleyes:

As I said to you in AH a few weeks ago..I recall you saying martial law would be imposed no later than November. So when November comes and goes with no martial law as it inevitably will, you will come on this forum, start a thread and admit you were talking sh1te?

Its already in effect, you two just don't see it.

'' If you tossed a frog into already-boiling water, it would leap out. But a frog placed into a pan of water with a low flame under it will slowly be boiled alive, the temperature change being too subtle for the frog to notice.''

Witcher

MikeGil wrote: »

Its already in effect, you two just don't see it.

No no:pac:..RTDH stated unreservedly that November was the tipping point, you and the other CT drones can't help him out of this one..he's laid his cards on the table for once and we'll see how the dice falls on this one...I predict RTDH to ignore all who question him on it...as usual and general hilarity to ensue:pac:

Blay

Blay wrote: »

he's laid his cards on the table for once:

Oh no, this is not the first time he's made a solid prediction.
He claimed that there would be something at the Olympics.
Didn't work out so well.

Witcher

King Mob wrote: »

Oh no, this is not the first time he's made a solid prediction.
He claimed that there would be something at the Olympics.
Didn't work out so well.

My god you're right...he ignored all the questions about his failed prediction then too....it's almost like RTDH is talking constant sh1te and ignores everyone when he's called up on it...shocker:pac:

MikeGil

King Mob wrote: »

Lol, again with the irony.

Where precisely did you get the figure of one million civilians?

Are you sure you dont work for the US government? You do like to defend their actions. You are looking for holes in the facts.

Source Casualties Time period

Opinion Research Business survey 1,033,000 deaths as a result of the conflict March 2003 to August 2007

humanji

MikeGil wrote: »

“I agree that while on the air, Alex Jones is a disinfo agent for the Jews and Israel. Obama, whom Jones criticizes, is an African American whose administration is infiltrated with Jews and Israel-Firsters. The communists, to whom Alex Jones and his guests refer, who influence and surround Obama, are also Jews. The banksters and the elite groups they talk about are dominated by the Zionists. There would not be the powerful Rockefeller dynasty had not the Jewish Israel-Firsters, the Rothschilds, financed it.

Israel did 9/11 - Mossad did 9/11. The low-life Larry Silverstein should be arrested and asked to take a lie detector test because of his involvement and benefit from the destruction of the twin towers. I am very disgusted with the decision of Alex Jones to revert to his former refusal to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth as to the identity of the criminals who are destroying the USA.”

http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=387

Quoting an antisemitic site doesn't help your argument and we'd rather you didn't post that crap on this site.

MikeGil

MikeGil wrote: »

Opinion Research Business survey 1,033,000 deaths as a result of the conflict March 2003 to August 2007

Oh so you didn't go out to verify these figures yourself?
Did you just read about it on a website?

MikeGil

Blay wrote: »

My god you're right...he ignored all the questions about his failed prediction then too....it's almost like RTDH is talking constant sh1te and ignores everyone when he's called up on it...shocker:pac:

It is known that an olympic attack was purposely spun out there by Zionists to make people like 'us' look like fools....its called discrediting.

why not go join up with the US Army seeings as tho you love those murderers so much?

MikeGil

King Mob wrote: »

Oh so you didn't go out to verify these figures yourself?
Did you just read about it on a website?

Yes and your tactic isnt going to work. Im simply stating one thing.

We both get our information from the internet so thats a level playing field.

What makes you so sure that your information is correct?

Witcher

MikeGil wrote: »

It is known that an olympic attack was purposely spun out there by Zionists to make people like 'us' look like fools....its called discrediting.

why not go join up with the US Army seeings as tho you love those murderers so much?

Ah yes..'Zionists' one of the many buzzwords that when added to a CT make it all the more interesting and 'real' in the eyes of a CT'er..also a handy way to get out of a prediction...blame the failure of the prediction on Zionists/Mossad/Israel/Obama..any one or a combination of them will do and you're home free.

Where did I state I loved murderers? A simple, quotation of where I said that will do fine...if no quote is forthcoming I'll be forced to assume you're a sensationalist CT drone..though I'm almost at the stage of thinking that already there's not far to go:pac:

MikeGil

humanji wrote: »

Quoting an anti semitic site doesn't help your argument and we'd rather you didn't post that crap on this site.

Its not antisemitic. There is a difference between Jews and zionists.

'In order to recognize Zionism for what it is, one has to know about Judaism, about Zionism -- the opposite and negation of Judaism, and about Jewish history. In the time allotted to me, I am not going to talk about the actions of the Zionists; they will be adequately dealt with by others. As a Jew, I plan to discuss Zionism, which is rebellion against G-d and treason to the Jewish people.'

http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/differencejudzion.html

MikeGil

MikeGil wrote: »

Yes and your tactic isnt going to work. Im simply stating one thing.

We both get our information from the internet so thats a level playing field.

What makes you so sure that your information is correct?

Because I apply logic and critical thinking.

How do you know that the figure your are repeating is true?
Have you tried to verify it or check if it's true yourself? Or did you just believe it immediately?

MikeGil

Blay wrote: »

As yes..'Zionists' one of the many buzzwords that when added to a CT make it all the more interesting and 'real' in the eyes of a CT'er..also a handy way to get out of a prediction...blame the faliure of the prediction on Zionists/Mossad/Israel/Obama..any one or a combination of them will do and you're home free.

Where did I state I loved murderers? A simple, quotation of where I said that will do fine...if no quote is forthcoming I'll be forced to assume you're a sensationalist CT drone..though I'm almost at the stage of thinking that already there's not far to go:pac:

Defending a murderers actions is another way of loving them.

sensationalist CT drone? what does that mean?

Witcher

MikeGil wrote: »

Defending a murderers actions is another way of loving them.

sensationalist CT drone? what does that mean?

I presume you know what sensationalist means so I won't explain that to you...but if you need some help I can give it:)

A CT drone is my own term for someone who blindly follows these theories...they usually quote websites and Wordpress blogs to give credence to these theories. They tend to flock to RTDH threads and back him up without question...like his own personal Mossad:pac: It's a bit of fun to spar with them until RTDH posts and you can shred his ideas and throw them to the wind like confetti at a wedding:pac: