Off The Ball Official Thread <Mod Note - Post #1, #533, #6651>

Quintis

Ursus Horribilis wrote: »

I think Off the Ball has become very stale. It won't matter though because people will tune in regardless of who's presenting.

Joe nearly keeled over when one of the lads called Shane Ross a buffon as Minster for Sport on the paper panel today

Loafing Oaf

Quintis wrote: »

Joe nearly keeled over when one of the lads called Shane Ross a buffon

Tbh, I wasn't aware of the minister's outstanding goalkeeping skills either.:P

dxhound2005

I always thought Shane was a quare bird.

BUFF'ON,noun The Numidian crane, an African fowl.

PeterTheNinth

Quintis wrote: »

Joe nearly keeled over when one of the lads called Shane Ross a buffon as Minster for Sport on the paper panel today

I'd cut Joe a break on that one. The contributor just outright called him a buffoon with no real justification. So it was slanderous. I'd pull Joe up every time when he's being painfully politically correct, but I think he actually HAD to intervene there for legal reasons. It was very immature of the contributor to call him that anyway.

lawred2

jam83 wrote: »

The rugby is also the highlight for anyone else that follows the lions tour.
The rehashing of the old speeches is what gets on my wick. Keith wood going on about what it means to be a lion, who ****ing cares? Not all of the players feel that way, maybe none of them buy that stuff, maybe they just want to turn up to prove themselves among a 40 man squad of fellow internationals and don't give a toss about that rose tinted stuff about what it takes to make a lion.
They could shut up about all of that nonsense and just talk rugby. That's all I want anyway. I love the lions as a rugby team. It's the misty eyed bull**** that makes me begin to hate the whole tour the longer it goes on.

Listening to him today.. The amount of we and us bulls%%t about the lions..

There is no we and us ffs.. It's a supranational exhibition side.

lawred2

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

I'd cut Joe a break on that one. The contributor just outright called him a buffoon with no real justification. So it was slanderous. I'd pull Joe up every time when he's being painfully politically correct, but I think he actually HAD to intervene there for legal reasons. It was very immature of the contributor to call him that anyway.

Erm that's not slander. At all.

Legal reasons... lol

Ol' Donie

Ursus Horribilis wrote: »

I think Off the Ball has become very stale. It won't matter though because people will tune in regardless of who's presenting.

I would have agreed but the bits I've heard without either Joe or Ger recently actually had a decent bit of life about them.

Arghus

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Tbh, I wasn't aware of the minister's outstanding goalkeeping skills either.:P

He's more a political own goal kind of guy.

CatFromHue

I thought the way Joe handled that bit was very good. Getting Rouse to elaborate on the point was good radio and good thinking.

PeterTheNinth

lawred2 wrote: »

Erm that's not slander. At all. Legal reasons... lol

Given your superior condescending tone, I can only presume that you work in the legal profession. How is calling a former minister of health an alcoholic live on air any different from calling a present minister of sport an idiot? Both are calling the character of the person in to question.

PeterTheNinth

I'd say that OTB will get the next month out of the Connolly thing.

Quintis

CatFromHue wrote: »

I thought the way Joe handled that bit was very good. Getting Rouse to elaborate on the point was good radio and good thinking.

For sure, it was an extreme view but if Rouse could fully support his view then he was entitled to express it, it was good that Joe give him the opportunity rather than sweep it under the carpet

lawred2

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

Given your superior condescending tone, I can only presume that you work in the legal profession. How is calling a former minister of health an alcoholic live on air any different from calling a present minister of sport an idiot? Both are calling the character of the person in to question.

Seriously?

Everyone is entitled to express their own subjective opinions about someone else. You won't be sued for having an opinion. Someone could try I suppose.

You can be sued however for saying something about someone that you know to be untrue.

Jayesdiem

Guess what? They spent most of it talking about doping.......AGAIN!!!! Change the fcuking record or just stop watching sport lads, you clearly don't enjoy it or "believe" in it.

PeterTheNinth

lawred2 wrote: »

You can be sued however for saying something about someone that you know to be untrue.

Yeah, but as Joe said, he has to back it up with some substantiating information. He did go on to make a valid point about how completely unsuited Ross was to the job. Just remembering when Ross referred to Thomas Barr as Thomas Barry... :pac:

https://www.buzz.ie/sport/watch-shane-ross-gets-thomas-barrs-name-wrong-twice-160495

Tell me how

Jayesdiem wrote: »

Guess what? They spent most of it talking about doping.......AGAIN!!!! Change the fcuking record or just stop watching sport lads, you clearly don't enjoy it or "believe" in it.

I see a bit of irony here.

Drugs in sport is very relevant because it is so prevalent at the moment. It is topical as the story of the Russian team broke last week. With the Tour de France starting next week and the on-going conversation relating to Sky.

I think it needs to be discussed or it will become accepted and that, for me, would be a very dangerous event.

PeterTheNinth

Tell me how wrote: »

Drugs in sport is very relevant because it is so prevalent at the moment. It is topical as the story of the Russian team broke last week.

Yeah, I only heard about that when I switched on the soccer yesterday. But it seemed a big enough story to justifying covering it....

siblers

I actually quite enjoy their coverage of doping, it's one of the few areas they cover that seems to actually suit Joe and Ger's personalties/attitudes without them coming across as being obnoxious

monstermag

It seems pretty obvious to me what Jim Gavin is doing in having a TV media blackout. He's trying to light a fire under his team, creating an us against them mentality, maybe the spark is missing in training. There going for the 3 in a row which doesn't happen that often, Gavin will do anything to achieve it. This spat with the media will galvanize the team. He's also been clever in that he didn't ban print journalist, keeping them on side was crucial. Connolly himself been a leader on the pitch will appreciate Gavin going to bat for him, and no douth he will go to war with his team this summer.
What I can't understand is that Joe and the other lads haven't mentioned this as a possible motivation for Gavin. There supposed to be sports journalist but missed the obvious, I'm no Sherlock Holmes or even Matlock but even I can see what's happening with Connolly gate.

Californeeway

monstermag wrote: »

What I can't understand is that Joe and the other lads haven't mentioned this as a possible motivation for Gavin. There supposed to be sports journalist but missed the obvious, I'm no Sherlock Holmes or even Matlock but even I can see what's happening with Connolly gate.

The two guests they had on at half seven, Horan and Quirke both made this point I think. Canavan did to on the Matt Cooper show. Personally I don’t think Gavin is doing that, he’s just p’d off with spillane and the sensationalist attitudes of the tv pundits who turn what he had hoped to be swept under the carpet into a big thing. So now he’s not talking to them like alex ferguson used to do with the bbc. But I don’t think its related to a some sort of siege.

Conservative

Pretty sure given a few weeks McIntyre and Richie McCormack would be labelled PC saps as well. Definitely the latter anyway.

In Wooly at least they had someone to call them out on their bollocks. Seems to be a free for all since he left.

PeterTheNinth

*Text comes in saying that Joe has OCD*

Joe:"Well before I say anything, I wouldnt want to belittle OCD, which is a very serious condition for those who have it. "


DEAR GOOOOOD !!!!!!

monstermag

Californeeway wrote: »

The two guests they had on at half seven, Horan and Quirke both made this point I think. Canavan did to on the Matt Cooper show. Personally I don’t think Gavin is doing that, he’s just p’d off with spillane and the sensationalist attitudes of the tv pundits who turn what he had hoped to be swept under the carpet into a big thing. So now he’s not talking to them like alex ferguson used to do with the bbc. But I don’t think its related to a some sort of siege.

Yes l heard Horan making that point, but that was 45 mins into the show.
Funny how OFTB constantly have a go at Dunphy but never criticize Spilliane or Brolly, both have been guilty of saying some nasty things about amateur players, they dare not utter a critical word about GAA hacks. Personally l like both Spilliane and Brolly, but I don't see a lot of differences between Brolly and Dunphy's tv persona, yet Dunphy is routinely ridiculed, granted he says some pretty outlandish things but Brolly is not shy either. Anytime he's on the paper review the lads are like school boys fawning all over him like he's some kind of Pulitzer prize winning writer or whatever the equivalent is for journalists.
I have a lot of respect for Dunphy, anyone u lines out for Millwall wearing a black armband after bloody Sunday deserves some respect, in his prime he wrote some fine pieces and a pretty good book on U2, l know I'm going to get slated for this post but what the he'll. Don't know what went down at Newstalk when he left, a lot of bad blood it seems. But from what l heard Dunphy is pretty good to work with, and don't forget he volunteered a pay cut at RTE when the **** hit the fan back in 08 not something Duffy, Tubbs, Finuciane were not to happy about.
Ger and Joe are great pontificating about soft issues but never really put themselves out there on more controversial topics. Ger in particular has a chip o his shoulder about Dunphy never misses an opportunity to get a dig in. Just last week Joe layed all the blame on Dunphy for Glenn Whelan's distrust of the Irish media, it's not as if OFTB haven't been critical of Whelan from time to time. For me its just become easy for people to slag Dunphy when u know it's a safe bet.
Bizarrely enough I think it was Joe.ie who done a poll a few months back asking who was Ireland's favourite pundit, yes u guessed it Dunphy came out on top, Ger was in the studio when one of the lads briefly mentioned it, i'd say his jaw is still on the floor.

PeterTheNinth

I'm not sure if you've seen this monstermag, but this story is doing the rounds today.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/joe-brolly-defends-complete-independence-sunday-game-pundits-enjoy-and-calls-his-pat-spillane-remarks-panto-stuff-35870838.html

Turns out that he was just getting Pat Spillane back for some remark he made about Brolly at the Galway Races. I don't know why they give him such prestige either. He can be funny at times, but most of the things he says are just to keep his own name in the news, and doesn't really have anything to do with proper commentary.

dr.kenneth noisewater

monstermag wrote:

Yes l heard Horan making that point, but that was 45 mins into the show. Funny how OFTB constantly have a go at Dunphy but never criticize Spilliane or Brolly, both have been guilty of saying some nasty things about amateur players, they dare not utter a critical word about GAA hacks. Personally l like both Spilliane and Brolly, but I don't see a lot of differences between Brolly and Dunphy's tv persona, yet Dunphy is routinely ridiculed, granted he says some pretty outlandish things but Brolly is not shy either. Anytime he's on the paper review the lads are like school boys fawning all over him like he's some kind of Pulitzer prize winning writer or whatever the equivalent is for journalists. I have a lot of respect for Dunphy, anyone u lines out for Millwall wearing a black armband after bloody Sunday deserves some respect, in his prime he wrote some fine pieces and a pretty good book on U2, l know I'm going to get slated for this post but what the he'll. Don't know what went down at Newstalk when he left, a lot of bad blood it seems. But from what l heard Dunphy is pretty good to work with, and don't forget he volunteered a pay cut at RTE when the **** hit the fan back in 08 not something Duffy, Tubbs, Finuciane were not to happy about. Ger and Joe are great pontificating about soft issues but never really put themselves out there on more controversial topics. Ger in particular has a chip o his shoulder about Dunphy never misses an opportunity to get a dig in. Just last week Joe layed all the blame on Dunphy for Glenn Whelan's distrust of the Irish media, it's not as if OFTB haven't been critical of Whelan from time to time. For me its just become easy for people to slag Dunphy when u know it's a safe bet. Bizarrely enough I think it was Joe.ie who done a poll a few months back asking who was Ireland's favourite pundit, yes u guessed it Dunphy came out on top, Ger was in the studio when one of the lads briefly mentioned it, i'd say his jaw is still on the floor.

I think its mainly due to Soccer being Ger and Joes favourite sport and the fact that they prob dont watch the Sunday game.

Ol' Donie

Surely golf is Joe's favourite sport?

And Ger's favourite sport is saying doz instead of does.

Utopia Parkway

dr.kenneth noisewater wrote: »

I think its mainly due to Soccer being Ger and Joes favourite sport and the fact that they prob dont watch the Sunday game.

I'd say golf is Joe's number one. Probably wears Rory McIlroy pyjamas to bed.

gormdubhgorm

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

I'd say golf is Joe's number one. Probably wears Rory McIlroy pyjamas to bed.

That golf weekly podcast is certainly an acquired taste!

DEFTLEFTHAND

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

*Text comes in saying that Joe has OCD*

Joe:"Well before I say anything, I wouldnt want to belittle OCD, which is a very serious condition for those who have it. "


DEAR GOOOOOD !!!!!!

Oh man, I have OCD but I also have a sense of humour about it. I'm not going to go into a meltdown because somebody takes the piss out of it on the radio.

PeterTheNinth

So no discussion of the Pat Hickey interview on OTB??

I wonder was that part of the conditions of the interview.