Who else has no timetable for Monday?

iPhone Crusader

I'n starting first year English studies on Monday and from the looks of it I'll be turning up to my first day of college with just my dick in my hands. I really don't want to miss my first day's lectures, especially considering the fact that a lot if valuable information will probably be given out during the day.

I know a lot of freshers seem to be in the same position, but I'm starting to think that if the university is this badly organised is it really worth the effort of turning up and getting a degree from them? Might as well just stay in bed and go on the social....

Anyone got any further details or are in the same position?

Larianne

Did you contact your course office?

Did you contact your tutor failing a reply from your course?

The college has only introduced a new system this year so lots of things aren't working out for them at the moment. It is ridiculous, I do agree.

The student union was advising students to contact their course departments re: timetables. If you're on facebook I'd suggest like the page as they usually give up to date information on things like that. https://www.facebook.com/tcdsu?ref=ts

If you have no joy from your course office, maybe get onto the student union education officer: education@tcdsu.org (Rachel covering for Dan at the moment)

iPhone Crusader

Hmm so I as a first year student have to go chasing the college administration for basic information? One question really, is it too late to switch to UCD?

emma__

I don't have a timetable either..
I contacted my course office but they said 'they are not at liberty to disclose any information at present'. And I haven't been assigned a tutor either.

This is getting ridiculous, 2 days until we start and I have absolutely nothing.

I also lost a part time job on thursday (which I really needed) because I wasn't able to tell them what hours I could work

Larianne

iPhone Crusader wrote: »

Hmm so I as a first year student have to go chasing the college administration for basic information? One question really, is it too late to switch to UCD?

Won't stop after first year either! :pac:

Probably not too late. (TCD is nicer than UCD though, )

Emma, contact Rachel, at the email address above and see if you can get it sorted it from there.

If all else fails, go to your course office on Monday and see what the story is.

tyty

iPhone Crusader wrote: »

Hmm so I as a first year student have to go chasing the college administration for basic information? One question really, is it too late to switch to UCD?

The college can't constantly spoonfeed each and every one of its students especially when there are so many issues with the new system (which in the long term, however, will make more information more easily accessible for the students). Going to college (no matter if it's TCD, UCD or any other) requires at least a little bit of autonomy and responsibility from the students' side as well.

galwayjohn89

tyty wrote: »

The college can't constantly spoonfeed each and every one of its students especially when there are so many issues with the new system (which in the long term, however, will make more information more easily accessible for the students). Going to college (no matter if it's TCD, UCD or any other) requires at least a little bit of autonomy and responsibility from the students' side as well.

Exactly, one thing I noticed is a lot of people didn't understand the role of staff at college was nothing like school, we had to do stuff on our own and find out stuff on our own. It's not ideal the whole system is a bit flakey at the moment but that is to be expected.

bscm

iPhone Crusader wrote: »

Hmm so I as a first year student have to go chasing the college administration for basic information? One question really, is it too late to switch to UCD?

College isn't secondary school, it's up to you to find out where you're meant to be and what you're meant to be doing. Yes, timetables are a bit all over the place this year, but (as the SU advised) you should contact your department, or at least contact someone who has.

Freshman Executive Officer - SADLER, MS. DIANE
Lecturer and Director of Teaching & Learning (Undergraduate) - COLEMAN, DR. PHILIP
Lecturer and Head of Junior Freshman - KILLEEN, DR. JARLATH

That's what's on portal for your course. If anyone of them can't help you, then try emailing the secretary. Departments know that they have to get timetables to students, chances are you'll get an email first thing on Monday.

Everything from exam timetables to tutorial groups will be posted online or else at your department notice board, and it's up to you to find and view them. Some departments will send a general email when information is available, but some will expect you to know by yourself.

UCD would have the same approach, so no use complaining.

iPhone Crusader

emma__ wrote: »

I also lost a part time job on thursday (which I really needed) because I wasn't able to tell them what hours I could work

Sue the university. Seriously.

tyty wrote: »

The college can't constantly spoonfeed each and every one of its students especially when there are so many issues with the new system (which in the long term, however, will make more information more easily accessible for the students). Going to college (no matter if it's TCD, UCD or any other) requires at least a little bit of autonomy and responsibility from the students' side as well.

So I'm holding down a job, starting out in college while trying to acclimatise to my new environment and I'm also expected to do the college administrations job? No, that's absolute nonsense, it isn't spoon feeding to provide students with information required to attend their cours.

galwayjohn89

iPhone Crusader wrote: »

Sue the university. Seriously.

:rolleyes:

Curlyhatescurls

Hey,
I'm going into JS English- no timetable yet either. I rang the office and they said they were hoping to have it pinned to the noticeboard byyesterday evening, but that it probably wasn't going to be put online for a while. So check the freshman english noticeboard, across from Diane's office on the fourth (I think!) floor.

iPhone Crusader

bscm wrote: »

College isn't secondary school, it's up to you to find out where you're meant to be and what you're meant to be doing. Yes, timetables are a bit all over the place this year, but (as the SU advised) you should contact your department, or at least contact someone who has.

College isn't school? Well thanks for that gem you absolute sage. They're the administration, they should at the very least tell new students what their timetable is. They have a new system? Great, so are they surprised by the fact that there are new students entering the college this year? No, they knew what was coming, they should have been prepared.

I've asked left right and centre and there's no information. Don't present it like I'm not looking for the information myself. It's not there and that is THEIR FAULT!

galwayjohn89

iPhone Crusader wrote: »

College isn't school? Well thanks for that gem you absolute sage. They're the administration, they should at the very least tell new students what their timetable is. They have a new system? Great, so are they surprised by the fact that there are
new students entering the college this year? No, they knew what was coming, they should have been prepared.

I've asked left right and centre and there's no information. Don't present it like I'm not looking for the information myself. It's not there and that is THEIR FAULT!

I'm just posting my experience from last year. Granted you know college isn't school but a lot of people expect to be spoon fed. But what do I know, I just have first hand experience.

Bringing in new software even with all the testing in the world is going to have hiccups. You combining data with different storage formats and trying to integrate everything whilst dealing over multiple departments. There are going to be issues and the teething pains will be worth it. Even the worlds largest airline United with massive IT teams and financial backing is still have issues after new software.

You absolute genius. I hope you post a lot more, you offer so much insight. Get out of here.

If you want help you should drop the attitude. Suggesting someone should sue TCD over not having a timetable is laughable and shows a level of immaturity. I hope your not like this to your course staff and lecturers otherwise it could me a miserable 4 years for you.

Toto Wolfcastle

iPhone Crusader Edu banned for being a rereg troll.

bscm

iPhone Crusader wrote: »

I've asked left right and centre and there's no information. Don't present it like I'm not looking for the information myself. It's not there and that is THEIR FAULT!

I just contacted a lecturer in the Department of English, most timetables are available on the notice board as the poster said above. So there is information available despite what you believe.

In college, the department notice boards hold more information than most emails. Best to check them before posting multiple times on Boards.

Gae

iPhone Crusader wrote: »

Hmm so I as a first year student have to go chasing the college administration for basic information? One question really, is it too late to switch to UCD?

If you think UCD is better organised, you are mistaken.

languagenerd

I know everyone's saying "You shouldn't expect everything to be done for you, this isn't school", but quite frankly, I don't think it's too much to ask to be told what time our classes are on! I'm not a first year btw (final year) and while I know the new system is obviously going to have bugs, it's ridiculous that we don't know what we're doing on Monday and that we've had no official communication whatsoever to explain or apologise.

On Wednesday night, the SU told us to ask our departments. My department isn't open on Thursdays or Fridays. I checked the noticeboard on Thursday - nothing. Now, someone in my class has said they saw a timetable on a different noticeboard on Friday afternoon (not the one where the timetables always are) but didn't take it all down, so can only tell us what modules they have on Monday. It's even more annoying that we didn't get any emails to tell us to check the noticeboard before the weekend - so the timetable is available, but we can't access it til Monday.

And obviously the OP here was a troll, but I don't think we should be jumping on people who ask about timetables. I don't think people are looking to be spoonfed because they want to know what time their first lecture is at!!

(Or maybe I'm just bitter because I've also missed out on part-time work and a French course because I didn't have my timetable )

Larianne

Well, if you're not in 1st year, then its up to your class reps to find out that stuff for you. They're still your class representative until a new one is elected.

Having said that, there is a problem with the class mailing lists, well I can't work out the new coding and the head of the department can't work it out either. So it's a bit of a headache. If you don't have a class facebook group page, or everyone's email address saved, tis a hard job contacting every one in your class. (I'm still waiting for my query re:mailing list to be answered).

lucernarian

To all those who propose contacting the relevant department directly to enquire about timetables: what happens if the department currently doesn't have an idea and that students can only expect a timetable on the first Monday of the teaching term and also may *still* be subject to change?!

Contacting the department is all well and good. Until they can only confirm that they don't know themselves until the teaching term is under way!

It's one thing saying that "timetables are all over the place this year", it's another thing when they don't even exist yet and in the meantime students can't plan for next week until Monday has already arrived!

languagenerd

Larianne wrote: »

Well, if you're not in 1st year, then its up to your class reps to find out that stuff for you. They're still your class representative until a new one is elected.

Having said that, there is a problem with the class mailing lists, well I can't work out the new coding and the head of the department can't work it out either. So it's a bit of a headache. If you don't have a class facebook group page, or everyone's email address saved, tis a hard job contacting every one in your class. (I'm still waiting for my query re:mailing list to be answered).

Except our class rep isn't even in our class anymore! (TSM Major/Minor choices). Not a lot we can do. The guy who saw the timetable (or, at least, who saw a bit of paper with lecture lists on it) thinks that no-one's in til at least 1pm on Monday, so I'll have to just go in on Monday morning for a look.

I think they should phased in the new portal instead. Like used it for registration this year, then timetables next year or something like that. It clearly isn't ready for everything yet. And it would have been nice if they emailed and explained "New system isn't working, please contact departments" (and informed the departments that people would be contacting them). Total communication failure...

Anita Blow

Student Union told everyone to refer to their department, our class rep emailed the department and was told that they don't deal with that and that we should refer back to the college.
It's not being "spoonfed" to expect to have a timetable 2 days before we start lectures.

Larianne

Anita Blow wrote: »

Student Union told everyone to refer to their department, our class rep emailed the department and was told that they don't deal with that and that we should refer back to the college.
It's not being "spoonfed" to expect to have a timetable 2 days before we start lectures.

Did they contact the department head or just the office? Because I'd be very surprised if that particular department head would just brush off a whole class who didn't know where they were timetabled for the first week of term.

Surely the lecturers themselves will know when they are teaching?

The problem here is that the whole college is affected, not just one or two courses. Its a bit of a disaster!

I Hate Systems

Jesus lads, heres the timetable for English.

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii109/lasherd/eng_zpsd9e1df3c.jpg

It was, infact, on the notice board in the Eng Dept.

galwayjohn89

Its not the whole college. I got my timetable on Tuesday I think by email. Most people I know have theres already from the department noticeboard.

Curlyhatescurls

I Hate Systems- You didn't by any chance see the Sophister timetable? My friend went in today as I'm in Galway and she said the arts block was shut.

I Hate Systems

@Curlyhatescurls No, i'm sorry. There was only Junior and Senior freshman up on the board if I remember correctly

emma__

Does anyone have any idea how I might go about getting the Junior Freshman European studies timetable? I was in town today and as one of the above posters said, the arts block was closed. I emailed my course department and education@tcdsu.ie and haven't received any information from either..

languagenerd

Vuzuggu wrote: »

Its not the whole college. I got my timetable on Tuesday I think by email. Most people I know have theres already from the department noticeboard.

It is the whole college - because the general online timetable isn't working. It just hasn't affected you because your department is efficient! Practically none of my friends have got theirs - someone asked my dept on Tuesday and was told they wouldn't have it til at least Friday (when the office was closed and so we couldn't get it from them). My other (former) department (TSM) said they "don't have the authority to release timetables". So it's not people's fault that they don't have them - not every course has been given theirs and even though we've asked and emailed and gone in to the offices in person, we haven't been given anything at all to go on.

languagenerd

languagenerd wrote: »

It is the whole college - because the general online timetable isn't working. It just hasn't affected you because your department is efficient! Practically none of my friends have got theirs - someone asked my dept on Tuesday and was told they wouldn't have it til at least Friday (when the office was closed and so we couldn't get it from them). My other (former) department (TSM) said they "don't have the authority to release timetables". So it's not people's fault that they don't have them - not every course has been given theirs and even though we've asked and emailed and gone in to the offices in person, we haven't been given anything at all to go on.

The classes in my department were emailed their timetables too. I never would have expected to use the online timetable because that's how we received them before. Portal was never accurate for us. It's not the whole college because the whole college isn't dependent on the online timetabling.

Lawliet

true-or-false wrote: »

The classes in my department were emailed their timetables too. I never would have expected to use the online timetable because that's how we received them before. Portal was never accurate for us. It's not the whole college because the whole college isn't dependent on the online timetabling.

Can we seriously not get into this argument. I'm pretty sure when people say this is effecting the whole college, they're not saying every single person relies on the portal and is without a timetable, but that there isn't an timetable on portal for anyone and this has effected a huge number of people across the whole college.

FloatingVoter

Lawliet, we don't need an argument as it would be entirely one sided. No timetables for some students....a "system" that won't allow payment for some others. Is TCD so posh now that Visa / Mastercard doesn't work for them ?. TCD has failed abysmally. The parents of toddlers on the way to the creche next week know which room they are in. They may even have been able to pay the fees involved.
All I expect next week is a fulsome apology from TCD for the mess. After three years there I know there are blips and potential disasters always waiting to occur. No matter. It is the lack of communication from their end that is bewildering.
Feel free to ban me for "ranting".

tyty

Just published by the Student Union on Facebook:
"A significant number of students are reporting that they have not received their timetables. We were assured by College last week that every student would be sent their timetable via an email from their school or department. Any student who has not receievd an email from their school by Monday morning should contact either president@tcdsu.org or communications@tcdsu.org. Some schools may have only listed timetables on department noticeboards and so we would also advise that any student who does not receive their timetable by Monday morning should try check the department noticeboards to avoid missing classes while College resolves the problem."

Ravelleman

Ironic to think of students complaining when it's a case of not being able to go to class because of College but come week 2 of term and beyond, when all the timetable issues have been resolved, will you go to all of your classes?

And yes, I do understand that it's quite inconvenient to be in this situation. No one likes to be in limbo.

jennn

Im a js repeating for medical reasons. I've been on to my school about timetables for the past 3 months to try and make sure my name would be on the list for subject choices since my medical repeat was being processed...I was constantly informed that choice forms were being emailed "shortly" it seems trinitys defininition of shortly translates to never. I've managed to get get a basic timetable through my schools website but since I'm tsm and there were no subject forms sent they never took into account that tsm students have another subject and so I've ended up with clashes in my timetable...school said this would be sorted and they revised the timetable - still have clashes! Emailed the head of the department asking about it since the admin staff didn't seem to give a ****, he replied and then ignored once I pointed out the clash... I think this thing of not informing students is a absolute joke, I told the school I was pretty terrified of having a clash after the year I've been through, I feel so let down by the school- yes there are issues with the new system and that's fair enough, what's not fair is the complete lack of communication with the students, far from being spoonfed I've done above what should be asked of a student, bringing this matter to the senior tutor/ dean because this really an absolute disgrace. I'm in danger of losing my job now since I don't have hours I can work and if I do lose it I won't be able to pay the second installments of my contribution...

Anita Blow

Larianne wrote: »

Did they contact the department head or just the office? Because I'd be very surprised if that particular department head would just brush off a whole class who didn't know where they were timetabled for the first week of term.

Surely the lecturers themselves will know when they are teaching?

The problem here is that the whole college is affected, not just one or two courses. Its a bit of a disaster!

Luckily someone got onto her and she was nice enough to give us a draft for the 1st week.
Still would've saved some hassle if the office had helped us in the first place. If that student hadn't gone to the department head last minute on Friday, we would've gotten no timetable.
Poor organisation by the college really considering that according to the Student's Union last night, all departments were meant to have e-mailed the timetables to the courses over the past week when the college realised the central timetable system wouldn't be ready. I guess it didn't help that IS Services decided that this week would be the perfect week to get rid of the existing class mailing lists.

Larianne

Anita Blow wrote: »

Luckily someone got onto her and she was nice enough to give us a draft for the 1st week.
Still would've saved some hassle if the office had helped us in the first place. If that student hadn't gone to the department head last minute on Friday, we would've gotten no timetable.
Poor organisation by the college really considering that according to the Student's Union last night, all departments were meant to have e-mailed the timetables to the courses over the past week when the college realised the central timetable system wouldn't be ready. I guess it didn't help that IS Services decided that this week would be the perfect week to get rid of the existing class mailing lists.

Well, just a tip for your class rep, if you're not successfully with the office, go above them and go to the department head. There is a new person working in the office so I would assume she doesn't know the ins and outs of things. Also, the head might not know what's going on either.

I still haven't got a reply from SUSU regarding the class mailing lists. :mad:

scmc

Anyone from BESS know when the optional module for spanish is? They only told us law and social policy..

languagenerd

From what I've heard, my department were only given the timetable on Friday (as in the lecturers didn't/don't have it either) and so didn't have time to email it out to students. So in some cases, it mightn't be individual departments to blame either.

Just seems to be a college-wide communication failure. Kind of ironic when you consider that the new system was supposed to improve communication :pac:

scmc wrote: »

Anyone from BESS know when the optional module for spanish is? They only told us law and social policy..

I'm in TSM Spanish and we haven't got our timetables yet, so it's probably because the department hadn't got them on time. I've been told that some Spanish timetables have been stuck up on the noticeboard outside the department (Arts Block, 5th floor), so have a look there in the morning

scmc

languagenerd wrote: »

I'm in TSM Spanish and we haven't got our timetables yet, so it's probably because the department hadn't got them on time. I've been told that some Spanish timetables have been stuck up on the noticeboard outside the department (Arts Block, 5th floor), so have a look there in the morning

Yeah according to a post on the facebook page it was on yesterday at 11 but only 2 people showed up haha