Fly Tipping!

gobnaitolunacy

:mad:
Got what appears to be a serial fly tipper in my area. Chanced his/her arm with one bag and now there's more after appearing. Any experiences on dealing with them?

Note the area in not in sight of houses, so it would be easy to drive up, fire out a bag and drive off.

I did have tipping in a different spot and actually went thru the stuff, eastern european food wrappers/convenience foods and loads of marlboro fag butts and boxes so must've been from a house of lads working on sites on their own...they were cute enough not to put anything with a postal address in it.

smash

What's fly tipping?

gobnaitolunacy

smash wrote: »

What's fly tipping?

Throwing black plastic sacks of sh*te by the side of the road instead of taking it to recycling.

Micky Dolenz

What a load of rubbish.

smash

gobnaitolunacy wrote: »

Throwing black plastic sacks of sh*te by the side of the road instead of taking it to recycling.

Where's the fun in that? Now cow tipping... there's a sport!

Fratton Fred

Do flies make good waiters? All that throwing up on peoples food can't be healthy.

CardBordWindow

We had a problem with it a few years ago. My dad went through the rubbish and found some personal notes in it, as well as the address. He wrote to the person, stating all the personal stuff 'I hope (daughter's name) had a good time at basketball practice' etc. and then at the end just said 'We know you're dumping rubbish. Stop!'
Not a problem since!

westies4ever

Phone the council, simples.

kneemos

They tend to breed like rabbits,you get one bag and everyone else dumps there as well.As someond who cycles around the countryside I can tell you that anywhere you can park a car you will find bags of rubbish,not to mention bags thrown in ditches along the road and the occasional bag just thrown on the road probably from a moving vehicle,add that to the general rubbish thrown in ditches and hedgerows and the result is a disgusting kip.

Caveman1

Maybe the council are dumping stuff themselves and wont clear it up because of "Cutbacks" just so you'll pay the household charge

I know, I know, conspiracy theories that way ->->->->-> :pac:

gobnaitolunacy

I do think it's the same person doing this because they fire the bag over the ditch into a drain so the bag is out of sight unless you take the trouble look down.
At a layby a few miles away there was and still is a lot of crap being tipped, saw a calf in the field quite happily chewing a discarded nappy one day. The council do shag-all, useless bunch.

working fool

Strange thing with fly tipping is that wherever the council put up sighns saying
" no dumping " that's where you'll find it because the sighn tells them that other people have dumped stuff there and gotten away with it .

Duggy747

This is your chance to paint yourself in camouflage, hide in the bushes and do a steak-out.

eth0

Throw all the bags onto a big hape and set it alight.

working fool

Landmines ???

Lapin

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Do flies make good waiters?

Waiter there's a human in my soup.

Rasheed

smash wrote: »

Where's the fun in that? Now cow tipping... there's a sport!

I never saw the fun in cow tipping, all the Dubs were mad into it when we were in college!

fishy fishy

did you find any medical records? :D

B.A._Baracus

gobnaitolunacy wrote: »

I did have tipping in a different spot and actually went thru the stuff, eastern european food wrappers/convenience foods and loads of marlboro fag butts and boxes so must've been from a house of lads working on sites on their own...they were cute enough not to put anything with a postal address in it.

Not much you can do so, op.
If they are smart enough to leave out any personal details nothing really can come about.

My family home is in a council estate. There is one neighbour (who is at the end of the estate, right beside the estate green park area) who always dumps things over his wall. Blatantly like. They got a new dish last year and the next day you saw an old dish laying there... Not a bother in the world. Of course, proving and knowing its them are two things.

gigawatt2007

Duggy747 wrote: »

This is your chance to paint yourself in camouflage, hide in the bushes and do a steak-out.

Now why would a fella hide in the bushes with a slab of steak and hide out?

Casillas

When I read the title, I thought something had gotten caught in a zip!

madamab

The residents of a housing estate which are under Dunlaoghaire Rathdown co council appear to be filling their cars with rubbish and popping next door to the bins of the complex beside them to dump their rubbish. This is a privately managed estate with management fees paid for bins etc. The people in the Dunlaoghaire Rathdown houses are so snotty and if anyone even parks on their road even though it is a council road they stick signs all over your car and sellotape wrapped round it and once after I ignored the stickers my mirror was broken.. We saw a middle aged couple today blatantly open their boot and lift 2 large white binbags full to the brim into the bins. What can be done? It is private property so has anyone any idea what the next step is?

miller50841

Hi to answer many questions the best option is to as said get onto the council and also camera's are a great friend to have it's the only way to really prove they done it.

There are covert camera's that can be installed that are motion sensor (pir) and would be great to catch the reg of the vehicle.

FGR

Sniper rifle packed with tranquilliser - Sit at window and just wait. Plenty of time for the relevant authorities to arrive and interview said suspects after waking them up at the scene.

Now the oncoming firearms and assault charges will be something to deal with another time.

paddy147

westies4ever wrote: »

Phone the council, simples.

Best joke post of the day.....:pac::pac::D

paddy147

gobnaitolunacy wrote: »

:mad:
Got what appears to be a serial fly tipper in my area. Chanced his/her arm with one bag and now there's more after appearing. Any experiences on dealing with them?

Note the area in not in sight of houses, so it would be easy to drive up, fire out a bag and drive off.

I did have tipping in a different spot and actually went thru the stuff, eastern european food wrappers/convenience foods and loads of marlboro fag butts and boxes so must've been from a house of lads working on sites on their own...they were cute enough not to put anything with a postal address in it.

...gets burnt in the stove/fire or shredded up to avoid ID theft.;)

You are actually advized to do that these days.

books4sale

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Not much you can do so, op.
If they are smart enough to leave out any personal details nothing really can come about.
.

Not so fast to dismiss....

The vast amount of rubbish carry product packaging with barcodes or qr codes

These barcodes can be tracked back to the point of purchase which will carry all the details, dates & times sold, till numbers monitored by cameras, credit, debit or loyalty cards used with all the customer detail.

But these methods would possibly be used in severe or serious cases of dumping. But that's a measure of how far an investigation could be taken to track illegal dumping.

paddy147

So what about a person puting some rubbish into a County Council waste bin on the roadside??

I mean its a public waste bin so can a person come along with say a bag of ash from a fire or some empty milk cartons/mineral bottles and put them into the public waste bins??

Is there any law against doing that????

gallag

€1000 reward for video evidence of illegal dumping.

€2000 fine for illegal dumping.

Yet another problem solved by me.

schnitzelEater

books4sale wrote: »

Not so fast to dismiss....

The vast amount of rubbish carry product packaging with barcodes or qr codes

These barcodes can be tracked back to the point of purchase which will carry all the details, dates & times sold, till numbers monitored by cameras, credit, debit or loyalty cards used with all the customer detail.

But these methods would possibly be used in severe or serious cases of dumping. But that's a measure of how far an investigation could be taken to track illegal dumping.

Barcodes are unique per product, they are not unique per instance of the same product...the barcode on 2 tins of 200 gram Heinz beans will be identical.

Even if they weren't, the cost required to implement the above suggestion make it entirely unfeasible, aside from the privacy issues...

stoneill

If you are rooting through the rubbish to find evidence, be careful of needlestick injury and such.
Wear gloves and use a litter picker.

Solair

books4sale wrote: »

Not so fast to dismiss....

The vast amount of rubbish carry product packaging with barcodes or qr codes

These barcodes can be tracked back to the point of purchase which will carry all the details, dates & times sold, till numbers monitored by cameras, credit, debit or loyalty cards used with all the customer detail.

But these methods would possibly be used in severe or serious cases of dumping. But that's a measure of how far an investigation could be taken to track illegal dumping.

No actually a barcode tells you very little. There's usually just 1 article number assigned to each product line.

They're not unique and they tell you nothing about the purchaser nor could they be realistically used to trace where the item was purchased or by whom.

All it tells you is "this is the code for a box of corn flakes"

Their onli purpose is to allow the price to be looked up by the till. They don't even encode the best before date.

Unless someone also left a receipt with their loyalty card number you couldn't trace them.

Even with that, you'd need a court order to pass data protection law.

Then you'd have to prove they actually put it there!

Ted_YNWA

Back home Someone decided to dump a load of sh!te down a farm lane of ours (not to house, bout half mile away). Had to get it collected by private contractor. Was registered , so hopefully he didn't just fcuk it elsewhere.



Slightly OT, can you pursue people who put rubbish in your wheelie bin. Stupid sod left a few of his payslips in bag. Might just send an official looking letter to him.

Solair

Ted_YNWA wrote: »

Back home Someone decided to dump a load of sh!te down a farm lane of ours (not to house, bout half mile away). Had to get it collected by private contractor. Was registered , so hopefully he didn't just fcuk it elsewhere.



Slightly OT, can you pursue people who put rubbish in your wheelie bin. Stupid sod left a few of his payslips in bag. Might just send an official looking letter to him.

If its a regular issue, you can get wheelie bin locks.

Some of the bin operators can even fit gravity locks. These lock the bin but open when it's tipped up by the truck.

Others just lock and need to be unlocked on bin day to allow collection.

westies4ever

paddy147 wrote: »

Best joke post of the day.....:pac::pac::D

well best joke post of sept 2012 maybe :rolleyes:

dont see the issue. theres an issue wth fly tipping at a local beauty spot; ive phoned the council, got put through to the litter warden, the rubbish is gone within a few days. maybe laois is streets ahead of dublin though?

Dartz

smash wrote: »

What's fly tipping?

When you see a sleeping housefly on the counter, sneak up to it real quite like and tip it over with your finger onto its side.

jack presley

westies4ever wrote: »

well best joke post of sept 2012 maybe :rolleyes:

dont see the issue. theres an issue wth fly tipping at a local beauty spot; ive phoned the council, got put through to the litter warden, the rubbish is gone within a few days. maybe laois is streets ahead of dublin though?

Unfortunately it doesn't just magically disappear after a phone call to the warden. Someone, i.e. the council has to clean it up and that's at a cost to the tax payer so that doesn't solve the problem. It just means the bloke dumping the rubbish doesn't pay but everyone else does

westies4ever

jack presley wrote: »

Unfortunately it doesn't just magically disappear after a phone call to the warden. Someone, i.e. the council has to clean it up and that's at a cost to the tax payer so that doesn't solve the problem. It just means the bloke dumping the rubbish doesn't pay but everyone else does

Agreed, but I've also had a call from the litter warden, they found a statement in rubbish pertaining to where i work and asked if i would confirm the address - i did - and they advised they would be prosecuting. i also regularly see stories in the local newspaper of prosecutions and fines. i do believe that in my area, they are doing their best.

jack presley

westies4ever wrote: »

Agreed, but I've also had a call from the litter warden, they found a statement in rubbish pertaining to where i work and asked if i would confirm the address - i did - and they advised they would be prosecuting. i also regularly see stories in the local newspaper of prosecutions and fines. i do believe that in my area, they are doing their best.

To be fair, I'm sure litter wardens up and down the country are doing the same and prosecuting when they can. Lets just hope they have enough resources to do it

Oink

paddy147 wrote: »

So what about a person puting some rubbish into a County Council waste bin on the roadside??

I mean its a public waste bin so can a person come along with say a bag of ash from a fire or some empty milk cartons/mineral bottles and put them into the public waste bins??

Is there any law against doing that????

It seems to be illegal alright:

"If you see someone attempting to place their domestic waste into a street litter bin - phone the Litter Warden - this is also an illegal act; "
http://www.newbridgetidytowns.com/civic-pride-|-litter-page23087.html


"...littering offences, including the disposal of domestic refuse into Council provided litter bins"
http://www.youghal.ie/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=297&Itemid=325

paddy147

schnitzelEater wrote: »

Barcodes are unique per product, they are not unique per instance of the same product...the barcode on 2 tins of 200 gram Heinz beans will be identical.

Even if they weren't, the cost required to implement the above suggestion make it entirely unfeasible, aside from the privacy issues...

Yep,it cost them say for example 1000 euro of time and effort to tack the person down,and the judge slaps him with a 100 euro fine.

Great another case solved then.:pac::pac::D

paddy147

westies4ever wrote: »

well best joke post of sept 2012 maybe :rolleyes:

dont see the issue. theres an issue wth fly tipping at a local beauty spot; ive phoned the council, got put through to the litter warden, the rubbish is gone within a few days. maybe laois is streets ahead of dublin though?

Yep,quite possibly so...when you see the amount of rubbish on the road sides in Dublin these days.

And now all of a sudden since Phil Hogan opened his fat gob to withhold money from county councils.....its the "we havent got the funds/budget to clean up all the streets".


But funnily enough they have found 60 million euro to move a city library from once side of the road to the other side of the road into a brand new building/development.


So much for "we have no funds"....:pac:

Solair

I remember hearing a BBC announcer saying that Newsnight was going to be investigating the scourge of 'fly tipping' that was 'sweeping the UK'

I assumed it was like 'happy slapping', 'planking' or something similar.

Irish people tend to call it 'illegal dumping'

I think we should stick to our own terminology or we will slip into calling binmen 'dustmen' before long!
Another English waste-disposal term I do not understand. I mean seriously, do they just collect dust?!

I've even heard them call a bin lorry a 'dust cart'