Should the Garda uniform be updated

repsol

People have suggested combat boots.I think the Gardai get a footwear allowance and choose their own footwear,so they can have combat boots if they want.

goldie fish

repsol wrote: »

People have suggested combat boots.I think the Gardai get a footwear allowance and choose their own footwear,so they can have combat boots if they want.

Incorrect.

bravestar

repsol wrote: »

People have suggested combat boots.I think the Gardai get a footwear allowance and choose their own footwear,so they can have combat boots if they want.

Where on earth did you hear that load of tripe? Members are issued with Haix boots.

Stooped

IMO baseball caps look too amateur.

goldie fish

Stooped wrote: »

IMO baseball caps look too amateur.

For certain operational uses they are fine, but for beat policing, the standard cap is just as good.
Baseball cap would be better for example, if your duty is in a car. It'll fit in the door pocket when you aren't wearing it, and you won't have to worry about prosoners/mules crushing/stealing it from the back seat/shelf.
Also useful for armed officers on scene, combined with the bomber jacket, for visibility.
Have to say, I'm surprised the US "Trapper" winter hat never made it to this side of the pond. Would make so much sense.

Stooped

goldie fish wrote: »

For certain operational uses they are fine, but for beat policing, the standard cap is just as good.
Baseball cap would be better for example, if your duty is in a car. It'll fit in the door pocket when you aren't wearing it, and you won't have to worry about prosoners/mules crushing/stealing it from the back seat/shelf.
Also useful for armed officers on scene, combined with the bomber jacket, for visibility.
Have to say, I'm surprised the US "Trapper" winter hat never made it to this side of the pond. Would make so much sense.

I always thought those trapper hats make us look a bit like Commies...

repsol

bravestar wrote: »

Where on earth did you hear that load of tripe? Members are issued with Haix boots.

If the gardai are getting boots now it is a relatively recent development,they used to get an allowance.If it is different I stand corrected.
I just presumed because if you see 5 Gardai together,no two are wearing the same shoes.One wears boots,one wears blackthorn shoes,one wears doc martin shoes etc.Maybe they are old issue.No need to be so narky! I couldn't care less what police wear to be honest.Its what is in the uniform that counts.Not the uniform itself.

Harry Bosch.

repsol wrote: »

If the gardai are getting boots now it is a relatively recent development,they used to get an allowance.If it is different I stand corrected.
I just presumed because if you see 5 Gardai together,no two are wearing the same shoes.One wears boots,one wears blackthorn shoes,one wears doc martin shoes etc.Maybe they are old issue.No need to be so narky! I couldn't care less what police wear to be honest.Its what is in the uniform that counts.Not the uniform itself.

No its not a relatively recent development. You are issued with the boots, currently Haix as part of your PPE. Members do buy and wear there own and its overlooked, but on the One occasion you get hurt / injured the powers to be will want to know were you wearing your official issue, if not why not. The allowance is because you have to wear boots during the course of your duties.

jill_valentine

goldie fish wrote: »

Have to say, I'm surprised the US "Trapper" winter hat never made it to this side of the pond. Would make so much sense.

I was at the Christmas market up around the docklands area a while back and there were some kind of uniformed chaps patrolling with big bright blue furry hats. I can't remember who they were now, but they looked really well.

dan dan

The change I would like to see is having them Made In Ireland. Every stitch and piece of equipment of the Garda The Army The Nurses ETC ETC. Are all Imported. For Gods sake make stuff in Ireland.

goldie fish

dan dan wrote: »

The change I would like to see is having them Made In Ireland. Every stitch and piece of equipment of the Garda The Army The Nurses ETC ETC. Are all Imported. For Gods sake make stuff in Ireland.

Even if irish made is poorer quality and more expensive?

Zambia

Stooped wrote: »

IMO baseball caps look too amateur.

The cap in 35-40 degree days is pretty essential. Unless you want a burnt chin.

Obivously the garda dont have that concern

dan dan

goldie fish wrote: »

Even if irish made is poorer quality and more expensive?

Yes of course. Irish manufacture can be every bit as good as any other country. Quality is easy to control. Costs however can be the stumbling block. If we can ease up on the trickery and cute hoorism a little bit we could do lots of things very well. Make it in Ireland first. Import only what we cannot make .

Luca Brasi

dan dan wrote: »

Yes of course. Irish manufacture can be every bit as good as any other country. Quality is easy to control. Costs however can be the stumbling block. If we can ease up on the trickery and cute hoorism a little bit we could do lots of things very well. Make it in Ireland first. Import only what we cannot make .

Because of the size of these orders they have to be put out to EU tender. Alternatively we could leave the EU

dan dan

Luca Brasi wrote: »

Because of the size of these orders they have to be put out to EU tender. Alternatively we could leave the EU

The EU can overlook, rules and regulations when it suits them. Newzealand is not eu but still its produce is flooding out shops. Our uniforms are not all coming from EU sources. Some are warehoused in EU areas to cover the (rules). Our unreasonable efforts to be the best boy in class,is killing us.
We were great at sending out the raw material and then buying back the finished product. Jobs for everybody but us.

goldie fish

The DF used to get its uniforms from an Irish based company. Then that company decided, because it couldn't provide the quantities required, to sub contract the work to a foreign company, who further subbed it to sweat shops in asia. The decline in quality was obvious.