Thief robs man fallen on train track and leaves him to be hit

Augmerson

Unreal.

Vancouver Sun wrote:

STOCKHOLM - A drunk, middle-aged man falls off a subway platform and is knocked unconscious as his head hits the tracks.

A bystander who witnessed the accident jumps down after him — but not for a daring rescue before the train arrives.

Instead, the witness steals the man's valuables, climbs back on the platform and leaves his victim to be hit by a train.

The man — who was on his way home from a party — survived, but was seriously injured and doctors had to amputate half his left foot, Sweden's TV3 channel reported.

Swedish police now hope that surveillance camera footage of the disturbing incident at a Stockholm subway station early Sunday will help them find and arrest the unscrupulous thief.

Police said Thursday they have received several tips after the video was shown on TV3 this week on Sweden's equivalent to "America's Most Wanted."

It was also shown by several other TV stations.

"To me it's incredible that one could steal or rob from somebody who is lying in such a place where you know that, if I don't do something, then this person will, in a worst-case scenario, get killed by the train that is coming. Because the train is going to come," police inspector Dan Ostman told TV4.

The thief had short, dark hair and was wearing a blue jacket and dark pants. He was described as being between 35 and 40 years old and about 5-foot-9 (175 centimetres).

He calmly walked out of the subway station, waving to the ticket vendor, as a train ran over the victim on the tracks below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoyz9VAXif8

You utter, utter scumbag. You could have robbed him but still helped him out of the way. I hope they find you.

Sorry if it's done before.

El Guapo!

What an absolute dirtbag.
Amazing that the man wasn't killed.
I hope that guy gets whats coming to him.

Colmustard

He could have had the decency to get him off the track then rob him, that's what I would have done.

Riddle101

Scumbag, hope they catch him. But the camera footage isn't really helpful, so I don't think they will find him unfortunately.

Pottler

Robber does a scummy thing.... errr... yeah, cos he's a scummer thief?? Clue is in the name, really. Fits pretty well in this case.

mikom

Loco.

im invisible

was he a liverpool fan by any chance?

Colmustard

Riddle101 wrote: »

Scumbag, hope they catch him. But the camera footage isn't really helpful, so I don't think they will find him unfortunately.

Hopilly there are other cameras leading up or out of the station. Perhaps he has a mobile phone, I think they will have more then that footage, hope so anyway.

Augmerson

It's just hard to comprehend how someone could do this. Sweden isn't a poor country. You have no need to be desperate there. Social welfare is more than adequate, the government will pay for your accommodation. It is not just surviving. Unreal.

Augmerson

im invisible wrote: »

was he a liverpool fan by any chance?

Reported.

Ghandee

I bet the robber wasn't Swedish.




You lot are all thinking it too.......

mauzo

Jesus what an absolute knobend.

At least drag him back up for gods sake, if you insist on robbing him!

Michael Weston

Ghandee wrote: »

I bet the robber wasn't Swedish.




You lot are all thinking it too.......

Bet he wasnt a United fan either

Augmerson

Ghandee wrote: »

I bet the robber wasn't Swedish.




You lot are all thinking it too.......

I'm not racist but....

No seriously. I know a fair few Swedes, everybody over there knows it was an immigrant. Immigration is a strange thing in Sweden, they opened their doors to thousands and thousands of people from Africa, the Middle East, Asia and Eastern Europe. Especially during conflicts. Those people did not integrate though. There are areas of Malmo and Stockholm that are, effectively, immigrant ghetto's. Not that they are slums, but just full of immigrants who don't want to assimilate and stay with their own.

It could be argued that Swedes have failed to integrate the immigrants, I won't make either argument. You'd really need to talk to a Swede. All I know is what I hear from Swedish friends.

Colmustard

What type of drunk stands on the edge of a platform.

fasttalkerchat

Colmustard wrote: »

What type of drunk stands on the edge of a platform.

A drunk one?

Hootanany

Bet you that's not in the Koran scumbag

galwayrush

Colmustard wrote: »

What type of drunk stands on the edge of a platform.

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

A drunk one?

A drunk one waiting for a train..

mikom

Colmustard wrote: »

What type of drunk stands on the edge of a platform.

A tipsy one.

Matt_Trakker

Zlatan will find him and destroy him.

Pace2008

Colmustard wrote: »

What type of drunk stands on the edge of a platform.

Do you think someone who's so pissed that they faceplant the train tracks without any outside interference has a ****ing clue what they're doing? Use your head, man.

mackg

If that dude is caught what could they actually charge him with? Stealing obviously, but what crime did he commit by not picking the guy up?

I'm not standing up for him here, just curious as to the situation.

Augmerson

mackg wrote: »

If that dude is caught what could they actually charge him with? Stealing obviously, but what crime did he commit by not picking the guy up?

I'm not standing up for him here, just curious as to the situation.

Aggravated theft apparently. Now, how many years that'll get you, I've no idea. 2-3 possibly. Good lawyer over there, maybe a year plus.

1ZRed

Pure cunt. Nothing sums it up better

Jimoslimos

im invisible wrote: »

was he a liverpool fan by any chance?

You should pass that piece of information onto The Sun

tunedout

probably a romanian, <unt.

Lorgach

A similar thing happened in O'connell St when a woman visitor tripped and fell onto the road and her handbag was robbed while she was lying there. Of course she wasn't run over by a bus but I don't think that the robber would have cared. Of course here in Ireland we expect things like that to happen.

mattjack

That's not Sweden, look at the women in the video clip, not one blonde with big tits.

themandan6611

Colmustard wrote: »

What type of drunk stands on the edge of a platform.

A Swedish one

El Guapo!

Lorgach wrote: »

Of course here in Ireland we expect things like that to happen.

No we don't.

Run_to_da_hills

In France he could be done for attempted manslaughter for not making any attempt to rescue him.

3ndahalfof6

Augmerson wrote: »

Reported.

you should sleep well tonight, but what of tomorrow.

Where To

Thought this was going to be a variation of this:mad:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055626095

Jimoslimos

Not condoning the guy's actions, pretty despicable IMO, but I imagine the mind of the thief works thus,

- It was his own fault for falling in.
- If I wasn't here it would still have happened
- Therefore I'm not responsible for anything that happens afterwards.
- I can try move him to safety.....too heavy....not my responsibility
- The only crime I'm guilty of is robbing his wallet.....no different if he was passed out on the bench
- Someone else will help

Pace2008

Lorgach wrote: »

A similar thing happened in O'connell St when a woman visitor tripped and fell onto the road and her handbag was robbed while she was lying there. Of course she wasn't run over by a bus but I don't think that the robber would have cared. Of course here in Ireland we expect things like that to happen.

Ah yeah, shore if you bumped your head in Ireland and woke up to find you only had three teeth in your head and all your clothes but your left sock were gone you'd consider yourself lucky. We're a horrible, disgusting bunch of people. Dreadful altogether.

The King of Moo

Jimoslimos wrote: »

Not condoning the guy's actions, pretty despicable IMO, but I imagine the mind of the thief works thus,

- It was his own fault for falling in.
- If I wasn't here it would still have happened
- Therefore I'm not responsible for anything that happens afterwards.
- I can try move him to safety.....too heavy....not my responsibility
- The only crime I'm guilty of is robbing his wallet.....no different if he was passed out on the bench
- Someone else will help

And probably:

- if I try to move this guy, someone might come along and see me and call the cops. I won't take that risk.

While the guy is utterly despicable, unfortunately, as you say, it's possible to have a fair idea of his thought process.

Luckily, people like him are a minority, and thinks like this don't happen nearly as often as their rate of reportage might lead some to believe.

3ndahalfof6

Pace2008 wrote: »

Ah yeah, shore if you bumped your head in Ireland and woke up to find you only had three teeth in your head and all your clothes but your left sock were gone you'd consider yourself lucky. We're a horrible, disgusting bunch of people. Dreadful altogether.

im waiting, what do we need to say altogether, im not saying dreadful, is there any chance you could change it.

Augmerson

Jimoslimos wrote: »

Not condoning the guy's actions, pretty despicable IMO, but I imagine the mind of the thief works thus,

- It was his own fault for falling in.
- If I wasn't here it would still have happened
- Therefore I'm not responsible for anything that happens afterwards.
- I can try move him to safety.....too heavy....not my responsibility
- The only crime I'm guilty of is robbing his wallet.....no different if he was passed out on the bench
- Someone else will help

Fair enough, he is locked, but your man took advantage of the situation and then just left him there. I would be OKish with a situation where a desperate man who was broke took advantage of the situation but still at least pushed the man to the side or called for help or tried to stop the train. He could have then slipped away. The drunk guy wasn't going to wake up and go "hey, I had a wallet?" and point fingers at the other dude.

He was an opportunistic scumbag. No better than Kevin Carter, the guy who took a picture of a starving and weak African child while a Vulture waited in the background for the child to finally collapse. This type of thing I think will divide people into two camps - those who see it as their civic duty to help someone in peril, regardless of how they got there, and those who say "well, it was his own fault". I am not say that this is how you feel or think, you are just portraying the mind of the Thief in a scenario.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

In France he could be done for attempted manslaughter for not making any attempt to rescue him.

Not sure about manslaughter. Certainly 'Omission To Act' could be leveled at the man in a criminal law court along with the theft offence.

Jimoslimos

Augmerson wrote: »

He was an opportunistic scumbag. No better than Kevin Carter, the guy who took a picture of a starving and weak African child while a Vulture waited in the background for the child to finally collapse. This type of thing I think will divide people into two camps - those who see it as their civic duty to help someone in peril, regardless of how they got there, and those who say "well, it was his own fault". I am not say that this is how you feel or think, you are just portraying the mind of the Thief in a scenario.

Pretty much spot on. I wouldn't neccesarily expect a person to put their life at risk to save the chap, i.e jump onto the tracks to try drag him to safety - but fair play if you do. However the least I'd expect would be some effort to prevent anything serious happening, raising an alarm, trying to signal the train before it arrives into the station, etc

Swampy

Shocking. Practically left the guy to die. Utter scumbag.

Yamanoto

Augmerson wrote: »

No better than Kevin Carter, the guy who took a picture of a starving and weak African child while a Vulture waited in the background for the child to finally collapse.

Carter chased the bird away, according to Joao Silva, a photojournalist accompanying him at the time:

The parents of the children were busy taking food from the plane, so they had left their children only briefly while they collected the food. This was the situation for the girl in the photo taken by Carter. A vulture landed behind the girl. To get the two in focus, Carter approached the scene very slowly so as not to scare the vulture away and took a photo from approximately 10 metres. He took a few more photos before chasing the bird away.

Two Spanish photographers who were in the same area at that time, José María Luis Arenzana and Luis Davilla, without knowing the photograph of Kevin Carter, took a picture in a similar situation. As recounted on several occasions, it was a feeding center, and the vultures came from a manure pit waste:

"We took him and Pepe Arenzana to Ayod, where most of the time were in a feeding center where locals go. At one end of the enclosure, was a dump where waste and was pulling people to defecate. As these children are so weak and malnourished they are going head giving the impression that they are dead. As part of the fauna there are vultures go for these remains. So if you grab a telephoto crush the child's perspective in the foreground and background and it seems that the vultures will eat it, but that's an absolute hoax, perhaps the animal is 20 meters."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Carter

pragmatic1

That scumbag must be a sociopath. No right thinking person could do that.

Augmerson

Yamanoto wrote: »

Carter chased the bird away, according to Joao Silva, a photojournalist accompanying him at the time:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Carter

I won't drag things off topic, but thanks for posting that. I have heard other accounts of that day, and Carter himself. Carter killed himself a few years down the line I think, not purely because of this incidence, he'd been living and working in a maelstrom of war for too long and it took his toll on him. But he couldn't guarantee after that day what become of that child and I bet it haunted him to the end, especially when the picture became world famous.

I take back what I said about him being an opportunistic scumbag though, it wasn't that simple. Sorry.

Rigol

They need to .....track him down.

seriously though .... they're out there, folks like him walk among us.

The King of Moo

Rigol wrote: »

They need to .....track him down.

seriously though .... they're out there, folks like him walk among us.

Very few of them, fortunately. Things like this don't happen often at all.

DEFTLEFTHAND

pragmatic1 wrote: »

That scumbag must be a sociopath. No right thinking person could do that.

Agreed. It goes against basic compassionate instinct, which I like to think most humans have some trace of. He was down on the track with the man, nobody with a conscience could do what he did. I don't care if it was Josef Fritzl lying there I'd still attempt to move him.

I wonder was he himself inebriated? Not that that's an excuse for his actions.

Rigol

The drunk guys name is Leifs Aanderson.

I dont know why they didnt just stop the train.
Trains here stop all the time when theres Leifs on the track.

(gets coat and ...Leifs)

B.A._Baracus

Rigol wrote: »

They need to .....track him down.
seriously though .... they're out there, folks like him walk among us.

The King of Moo wrote: »

Very few of them, fortunately. Things
like this don't happen often at all.

I say there are more people like that in life than what we would think.

You hear often about people getting mugged when drunk .. Many a person has been attacked and either took a right beating or hit their head off the ground. Scumbag robber doesnt care. He is down the road.

There is no difference from robbing a guy and leaving him on the train tracks to robbing a guy who has cracked his head off the ground as you wrestled to get his wallet.

Plazaman

Leifs Aanderson? Jesus......is that ABBA's Benny Andersson nephew? No? A bit insensitive?

Anyway, I agree, blue shirt scumbag theif should be hunted down and have his foot cut off for what he done to that gent.




I'll just leave this here for ABBA fans....

Take-a-Chance, Take-a-Chance, Take-a-chaka chan chance,
Take-a-Chance, Take-a-Chance, Take-a-chaka chan chance,
If you change your mind, I'm the first in line... etc ...

The King of Moo

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I say there are more people like that in life than what we would think.

You hear often about people getting mugged when drunk .. Many a person has been attacked and either took a right beating or hit their head off the ground. Scumbag robber doesnt care. He is down the road.

There is no difference from robbing a guy and leaving him on the train tracks to robbing a guy who has cracked his head off the ground as you wrestled to get his wallet.

We hear about such cases a lot, true, but that's more due to the fact that such stories grab people's attention and sell more papers/get more hits.
It seems like such incidents are very common, but that's simply due to the fact that we never put these cases into context next to the innumerable occasions every day when something violent might happen, but then doesn't.

I won't post the video as it's always posted, but check out Steven Pinker's demonstration of how we're living in the most peaceful time in history.

I don't mean to say that violent crimes aren't terrible, or to excuse their perpetrators. Rather, I'd just like to point out that they're not as common as they often appear to be.