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  • 12-09-2012 1:58pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭


    Hello all

    I have been reading the forum for ages, and I'm still lost as to what we need to get us started.

    We've been using a disposable the last week (myself and other half). It's worked out brilliant and way way better than we had expected. It's expensive though as we have to buy 3 x €6.99 a day.

    So, we have €100 to spend tomorrow on 2 systems.

    I know extra batteries are important, but after that I'm lost. Can anyone link everything that we need to order and will €100 for 2 people be enough?

    Also say if we ordered first thing tomorrow morning, when would we get it? Based in the West of Ireland.

    In relation to juices, the tobacco flavour disposable we have is great, what's the closest to the real thing in juices?


    Thanks in advance for your help.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,674 ✭✭✭DirtyBollox


    If i was you and if you are available i'd hold off until vapefest on saturday. you can see other systems and ask opinions, and you can try the various juices at the juice bar to see which ones you like :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    http://www.e-smokeireland.eu/product-p/xldcc.htm dual coil cartomiser kit. simple kit, does the job and pretty cheap. get two 900mah batteries so one will last you the day

    once you have the batteries, if you decide you dont like the dual coil cartomisers or even if you just want to try something else.. you can just buy it and so long as it has 510 or ego fittings it will fit and work fine on your battery

    there's loads of options to choose from including variable voltage or clearomisers or tanks.. but for simplicities sake, this kit has everything you want.
    in a few months if you decide you want to try something else.. no harm

    and
    http://www.e-smokeireland.eu/category-s/1822.htm a mouth piece for the cartomisers


    juice wise.
    http://www.e-smokeireland.eu/product-p/eltorocn.htm
    i love this stuff, it's made with real tobacco leaves so it's a bit more authentic than most juices

    you're never gona get one that' tastes like the real thing though and juice tastes are very subjective.
    you'll be best off ordering a few 10ml bottles of a few different flavours to see what you like

    strength wise.. 18mg is usually a good starting point

    if you order tomorrow morning you should have it the day after.. althoughn when I was staying at my parents orders sometimes took 2 days.. if you order before 4pm today you should havee it in tomorrows post.. provided an post don't decide to take it on a tour of the country first.



    10% discount code of 'boards' without the ' for that website, free shipping on orders over 65.. so 100 should get you the two kits plus a few different bottles of juice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭sept09baby


    Would definitely recommend trying to get to vapefest if you can. You'll be able to try everything out there.

    If you can't you will need the following:

    - Batteries (2 each)
    - Chargers
    - Top Connections (can be tank, clearomiser, atomiser, cartomiser etc).
    - Liquid (try a few different flavours)

    I've done up a mock shopping cart on ESI (e-smokeireland.eu) and the total comes to just shy of €96 with the boards discount.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭Tucking Fypo


    Thanks everyone :)

    Would love to go to Vapefest, but we can't make it this weekend.

    That's great there is a discount. Will pop on those links now and have a browse.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    sept09babys shopping cart is pretty good

    people have been giving good reviews to those kangers

    the only change i'd make is add a 10ml bottle of el toro cigarillos naturales :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭Tucking Fypo


    sept09babys shopping cart is pretty good

    people have been giving good reviews to those kangers

    the only change i'd make is add a 10ml bottle of el toro cigarillos naturales :)

    Only saw that now. I'm confused again lol. Is that basically a made up kit now? Where is the bit you smoke out of


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,674 ✭✭✭DirtyBollox


    Only saw that now. I'm confused again lol. Is that basically a made up kit now? Where is the bit you smoke out of

    the kanger 2 clearomiser is the bit you smoke out of. the bit in the middle is filled with the juice. the piece to the left is a spare atomiser that fits inside it and the black piece is the mouthpiece that fits on top.

    the whole set up screws onto the battery and you press the button and vape away :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭Tucking Fypo


    Only saw that now. I'm confused again lol. Is that basically a made up kit now? Where is the bit you smoke out of

    the kanger 2 clearomiser is the bit you smoke out of. the bit in the middle is filled with the juice. the piece to the left is a spare atomiser that fits inside it and the black piece is the mouthpiece that fits on top.

    the whole set up screws onto the battery and you press the button and vape away :)

    Thank you :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭sept09baby


    Yeah I included the Kanger T2 clearomisers as they are a good starting point. You simply unskrew the top and pour in the liquid.

    Once you're set up and vaping away, you can start to play around with the millions of options out there!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭Tucking Fypo


    sept09baby wrote: »
    Yeah I included the Kanger T2 clearomisers as they are a good starting point. You simply unskrew the top and pour in the liquid.

    Once you're set up and vaping away, you can start to play around with the millions of options out there!

    Excellent.

    How long would a bottle of liquid last? Say for a 20+ a day smoker of John Player Blue for example. And is that the only continuos costs for vaping, bar the odd replacement or upgrade?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,674 ✭✭✭DirtyBollox


    Excellent.

    How long would a bottle of liquid last? Say for a 20+ a day smoker of John Player Blue for example. And is that the only continuos costs for vaping, bar the odd replacement or upgrade?

    Depends on the strength of the juice and the size of the bottle really. i used to smoke about 20 marlboro light a day and at the moment a 10 ml bottle would last me about a week. and yes the juice is the only continous cost.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭sept09baby


    You'll also need to get new clearomisers (or replace the heads in them).

    I was a 20-25 a day Superking smoker and now that I'm all set up I spend between €25 and €35 a month on liquid and clearomisers.

    That doesnt include upgraded devices etc but it's still a huge difference!

    I use about 3mls per day (+/- 1ml) but everyone is different. Some people use a stronger nicotine level and less mls and some use weaker nicotine liquid but more often. You'll settle in to your own niche pretty quickly


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    you wont know how much liquid costs until you actually start vaping and get a feel for how much you vape and how much liquid you use

    some people use 8-10ml a day and those clearomisers are pretty thirsty. now you'd have to have it in your mouth every few seconds to use 8-10ml a day imo, but some people do it

    i think the average is between 3-5ml a day and that's for moderate-heavyish vapers.


    the batteries oughta last you a long while.. after that all youll need is juice and replacement atomiser heads for the kanger clearomiser.
    you can also buy another kanger clearomiser so you have two on the go for different flavours but it will mainly be replacement heads (iirc 2 euro a go) and juice

    --edit

    http://www.e-smokeireland.eu/product-p/t2coils.htm

    link for the replacement heads

    throw a couple of these into your order as well when you make it.
    the atomisers thatcome with the kanger are 2.4 ohms.. on a normal ego battery you might find that's perfect.. you might find it's a bit cool.. as with a lot of things in vaping.. it's down to personal preference.
    I'd reccomend you order 1 or 2 of the lower resistance (1.7-1.9 or 2.1-2.2 ohm) atomiser heads as well just so you can compare and contrast.. see which resistance is best for you.
    once you know which resistance coil you prefer.. then you can just keep ordering them whenever you need them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭Tucking Fypo


    That's pretty amazing. I was thinking the one liquid would last a day. We spend the guts of €500 per month on cigarettes. I love smoking, and the disposable one I've had fits every requirement. Can't wait to get my kit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭Tucking Fypo


    Going to replicate Sept09's shopping list and add the liquid you recommended Caeser. Ridiculously excited :D. Would love Vapefest, hopefully next year. Thanks everyone. Will update.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭Tucking Fypo


    Feck. They only do Paypal on that site. Will have to activate the Visa Debit card before I can order.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    yeah they're working on a new payment system I think.. but there's some reason that they have to wait another month or two to get a finalised version in.. nothing they can do about it from what I remember. it might be something to do with the new visa debit cards becoming the standard.. whats the point in paying for a laser system if they're going to be obsolete in 3 months time.

    if you're going to be in dublin you can pay in cash and collect


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭Tucking Fypo


    yeah they're working on a new payment system I think.. but there's some reason that they have to wait another month or two to get a finalised version in.. nothing they can do about it from what I remember. it might be something to do with the new visa debit cards becoming the standard.. whats the point in paying for a laser system if they're going to be obsolete in 3 months time.

    if you're going to be in dublin you can pay in cash and collect

    Setting up those systems are a nightmare. Got that visa debit sent to me last month, so I'll get my skates on and activate it and set up a Paypal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭Tucking Fypo


    All ordered :D. Really hoping it does come tomorrow cause spent ALL my money on the site. 2 disposables left.

    Thanks everyone.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    should come tomorrow unless an post decide to **** with you


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭sept09baby


    Should arrive tomorrow. Best of luck with it and let us know how you get on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭Tucking Fypo


    Shipped already. I will be hounding the postman lol.

    Will let you know. Enjoy Vapefest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭Tucking Fypo


    It arrived!!!!!! How fast was that, only ordered this time yesterday.

    First impressions, amazing. Thanks everyone for your help.

    We got a part (dual coil) written on the side, but don't know where it goes?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    http://www.mtbakervapor.com/product_images/e/657/Dual_coil_cartomizer__39882_zoom.jpg

    does it look like this?

    you just screw it into the battery where you screw the tank

    i think you will be able to use the mouthpiece for the tank with the cartomiser.. just take the white rubber piece out of the top and put the mouthpiece in there



    how to fill cartomisers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭grindle


    Edit and erase: Way too fast, Digby!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭Tucking Fypo


    Thanks. Will view that video when I can. Signal is a bit bad. It does fit on to the battery alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭Tucking Fypo


    That was it. :). Thanks for recommending e-smokeireland.eu they are great to deal with.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    have you tried the el toro yet? curious to know what a recently ex-smoker would think of it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭Tucking Fypo


    I really like it. Other half prefers the RY4-A. He was quite sceptical about vaping, but he's thrilled and vaping away now. Throwing out the ash trays as I type lol.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 371 ✭✭illicit007


    I hate ash trays, cigarette butts, lighters, the smell of the things... all those things make me go 'yuck'

    When I take a toke of my vapouriser I'm 'oooooh yeeeea' :D

    You're going to have a better smelling cleaner house, healthier bodies, I could go on and on. Congratulations! Love it when another smoker is converted :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭Tucking Fypo


    So many benefits and sacrificing nothing. Wish we had known about them long ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Anyone


    Ok, have decided to venture into vaping. The cost to the pocket and my health is too much now. Followed Sept09baby's order list, with a few different liquids. Lets see how it goes :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,674 ✭✭✭DirtyBollox


    bought 2 KAnger's yesterday at vapefest and they are great!!!

    Highly recommend them and thumbs up to sept09baby for recommending them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭Tucking Fypo


    Anyone wrote: »
    Ok, have decided to venture into vaping. The cost to the pocket and my health is too much now. Followed Sept09baby's order list, with a few different liquids. Lets see how it goes :)

    You won't regret it. My OH doesn't even miss the fags, which I thought he really would. I had a dream that I nearly smoked a real one last night, but that's the extent on my thoughts.

    Let us know how you get on!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Anyone


    You won't regret it. My OH doesn't even miss the fags, which I thought he really would. I had a dream that I nearly smoked a real one last night, but that's the extent on my thoughts.

    Let us know how you get on!

    Yeah will do, I have a few reservations of course....is it going to be awkward to fill/maintain/recharge etc. And the actual effect, but I'm interested in trying it so will see what happens.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,674 ✭✭✭DirtyBollox


    Anyone wrote: »
    Yeah will do, I have a few reservations of course....is it going to be awkward to fill/maintain/recharge etc. And the actual effect, but I'm interested in trying it so will see what happens.

    any questions don't hesitate to ask :)

    with the kanger you take the black mouthpiece off, tilt the tank sideways and dribble the liquid into it. depending on use a battery could last you a a few hours (very heavy use) or a whole day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭Tucking Fypo


    Anyone wrote: »
    Yeah will do, I have a few reservations of course....is it going to be awkward to fill/maintain/recharge etc. And the actual effect, but I'm interested in trying it so will see what happens.

    any questions don't hesitate to ask :)

    with the kanger you take the black mouthpiece off, tilt the tank sideways and dribble the liquid into it. depending on use a battery could last you a a few hours (very heavy use) or a whole day.

    Very easy to fill and my battery lasts much longer than I expected. Only takes about 1.5 hours to charge the other one too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,674 ✭✭✭DirtyBollox


    With the kangar dont go doing what i'm after doing, I left it standing on its end so all the juice drained to the bottom. as the wicks are short and i continued to vape they dried out and i then got a horrible burnt taste off of it. Basically dont let them dry out, intentionally or unintentionally when vaping :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭sept09baby


    Oh no :-( I always leave my devices lying on their sides so never a problem. At least they have changeable heads so you don't have to bin it.

    Currently vaping Highbrow Vapour's Strawberry Lemonade in a Kanger T2 and ESI's Vampires Kiss in my Vivi Nova - very happy this morning :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,674 ✭✭✭DirtyBollox


    didnt burn it out thankfully so its not too bad, and i am now leaving everything on its side!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Anyone


    Anyone wrote: »
    Ok, have decided to venture into vaping. The cost to the pocket and my health is too much now. Followed Sept09baby's order list, with a few different liquids. Lets see how it goes :)

    Ok, seems my order has been delivered. In work right now, but will charge and set it up later. I have a day off work tomorrow which is handy, will spend the day trying this out....expect questions :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭Tucking Fypo


    All tips welcome. I keep expecting sometime to go wrong as everything is just too good. A big announcement that the government are banning them or something lol.

    I ordered Swedish fish for myself yesterday. Can't wait to try it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭krissovo


    I ordered Swedish fish for myself yesterday. Can't wait to try it.

    Mmmmmm, I am vaping that right now. Its on a ego twist at just over 4v with a kanger and its an amazing. It didnt work well on a vivi nova (no vapour, limited flavour), it did work a little with the mini but the liquid soon went dark and didnt taste great (it was ok) but once it was on kanger..... Yum!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭Tucking Fypo


    I just smelled it. Woweeeeeeeeee lovely! Just sent OH the link above on how to clean the kanger so I can get topped up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭grindle


    Swedish Fish is a bit sensitive to heat alright. Doesn't taste good above 7/8 watts for me (4v with a 2.1-2.6 ohm coil = 6-7.6 watts, so you're hitting it's sweet-spot), and it seems to caramelise over time, or at least it tastes that way.
    You'll find that with a lot of the mega-fruity or sweet flavours, Mountain Dew is murder for it as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Anyone


    Ok charged it up, filled the kanger, and took my first draw! The liquid I am trying first is RY4-A.

    Initial thoughts.....its strong...can feel it at the back of my throat(however, I did have a smoke just 10-15 mins before). Its an unusual flavour, kind of caramel/coffee?? But its good so far, lets see if I can use it long term


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